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Haha!  Wear the mask. how fitting.yap. and all of the alternates :PI want that "Final Confrontation" cue so much!Most of them are done actually and should have been released a while ago !Hybrid why is HZ scoring so many films lately, has he placed a bet with himself or something? lol<br><br>Looking forward to it. Boss Baby was a really fun score.
I'm confident he would care. Not saying he has any control over it. <br>I don't think Mondo should be making any money from this release. It ought to be canceled and removed from their website. <br><br>It's more than just a tempo issue. The tone is entirely off, and parts that were once pleasing to hear, now sound awful to my ears.<br><br>Seems Mondo is lacking the proper quality control. Hopefully this is a wake up call for them. If enough people avoid buying this album or return it, they'll get the message. I like to see capitalism work properly. <br>Maybe Pope is involved.Great news! The first one is fun, not Zimmer’s best animated score imo but it’s still pretty enjoyable. I almost wish they got Conrad Pope involved again, “Love” is one of the most beautiful cues of the past few years.The first one was quite pretty good.We knew Steve would return for quite some time, but I was surprised Hans would actually return too. But he's very involved with that one.
Who is Hans Zimmerman?i want it so much <3I guess it's only fair that they do shoulder the blame, considering again that releases like these aren't really the norm for them. I still wouldn't expect a recall and replacement, since it'd be a lot of money down the drain there. Their loss ultimately at the end of the day.<br><br>A bit disappointed about the content being the exact same as the leak, as I would've liked some of the film edits or at least the alt mixes I've seen pop up. I guess I'll just have to hope Disney does end up cooperating with LLL sooner than later.You gotta realize one thing, most of the time, Hans doesn't even know about these releases (and honestly I think he doesn't care). Only a few labels like LLL play ball and have him involved (but as Hans doesn't own most of his music, they have no other reason than courtesy to do so).<br><br>As for MI2, people who complained about the "content" instead of the tech aspect of it were goddamn wrong. Yes, the film mixes / OST mixes are pretty different. Because you have suites & sometimes material specifically arranged for the album or alternate cues.<br><br>Mondo having released the final mixes (and I know what Paramount provided them, it's just exactly the same 2 CD set copy that leaked years ago), I have no problem if the content is different.<br><br>And that's the topic on which they answered, James. Technically, they're not wrong, but they are ditching the REAL problem, for which they are responsible for ! The speed issue is on them, not on what they got.Considering the recent issues with the isolated score on Days of Thunder's 4K release sounding very inconsistent, I do wonder if Paramount has simply been poor in preserving stuff. Especially when they mention the studio and not the record label, which might've had a better copy on hand (they did finally put the OST on digital recently, after all).<br><br>I am not going to hold Mondo responsible for this, especially considering they normally do just press the regular OSTs onto LPs. I don't expect them to be fully privy to if a score sounds fine or not, since they're often just given the stuff prepared for them. Besides, repressing records would be a super expensive ordeal, especially with how limited they're often designed to be now.<br><br>And honestly: since no one has made the comparison to Sherlock 2 yet, how bad sounding is it really? I'd much rather it be slightly off than it being complete trash like the Perseverance release of Rain Man was. If HZ was able to let that slide once, then he won't be so worked up over a small tempo issue.
So this is what Mondo had to say about their massive screw up. I've never heard something so stupid in my life. If I had a direct line to Hans Zimmerman himself I'd call him about this. I'm sure he would be interested to know they butchered his album. <br><br>"Hi James,<br><br>I talked with the soundtracks department and here's what they had to say:<br><br>We’ve been made aware of a discrepancy between how the audio sounds on our album versus how it was previously released in original releases.<br><br>Our masters came directly from the studio and from original recording sessions, and we did not do any adjustments to the masters in post other than standard vinyl mastering process. But it seems any previous post production on those original releases, and cues used in the film itself, are absent from our release and may account for the differences you notice.<br><br>We currently do not have any plans on remastering the score."<br>Great. Thx.<br><br>Score has much similarities with Sherlock, so there is many of Lorne's cues...Known credits are Runaway Train for Mazzaro (was on his website), for Andrew K : The Rangers, Cannibal, Dead Rangers & Finish Him (on his Soundcloud). Geoff is the only guy with Ann Marie Simpson that got the privilege of cuesheet credit.
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<br>Battle of Aughrim arrangement (so everything lifted from "Silver") is Hans & Ann Marie.
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<br>Geoff did a good part of the score, every other classical pieces arrangements are his (so, everywhere the William Tell Overture appears). Train Chase, the End Credits, This Is A Robbery.
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<br>The stuff that sounds more or less like Sherlock have definitely Lorne. And I suspect a bit more epic drama have RGW.Hello there!<br>Hybrid, do we have some composer's credits on this score?<br>Or this is situation like on Transformers score?<br><br>Somewhere I read that Geoff Zanelli helped Hans on Train Chase (pts 1&2), Mazzaro did Runaway Train and Kawczynski did like 2 or 3 tracks (the rangers, finish him). Is that correct?<br><br>btw good score, not genius, but pretty good action score.<br><br>Made in Italy<br><br>Beautiful new score by Alex Belcher, check it out!
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Hans ZimmerJay RifkinShirley WalkerBruce Fowler
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Backdraft (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 64'33
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
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  1. Flashlight (0:52)
  2. Main Titles (4:26)
  3. The Real Thing (1:07)
  4. One Case Won't Do (1:16)
  5. Late For Work (0:54)
  6. Dig In - Mannequin Fire (8:31)
  7. Save My Baby (2:08)
  8. You Win (0:27)
  9. In Another Life (2:48)
  10. Hard Lesson To Learn (1:17)
  11. She's Hot & Smokey (2:28)
  12. Check It First - Check For Heat - Tim Burns (2:45)
  13. After The Fight (0:41)
  14. What's This Job All About? (2:15)
  15. The Ex Is Back? (1:03)
  16. I Just Can't Anymore - Swayzak's Office (2:01)
  17. Swayzak's OK (1:06)
  18. Did You Want To Be Your Dad? - Who Doesn't Love Fire? - Brian Finds Trych (2:49)
  19. Final Fire (9:59)
  20. Approaching Fire - Who's Your Brother? (9:22)
  21. Funeral - Swayzak Is Busted (3:14)
  22. Epilogue (3:34)
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badbu reply Replies: 17 || 2014-05-20 12:10:07
The best score of the last 20 years!
The sound is so impressive!


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-20 12:13:29
Bah! It's good, but to say there's been nothing better written since? Lord of the Rings, Jurassic Park, At World's End, How to Train Your Dragon...bullshit!

Besides, 20 years ago was 1994. This came out in 1991. :b


badbu2014-05-20 12:20:25
LOTR...no...JP...no...POC3...ok, you're right!HTTYD...no...:P
yes, i know :D
But this score was Hans breakthrough :)


Hybrid Soldier2014-05-20 12:23:41
This score is far superior than HTTYD... lol


0-cool2014-05-20 12:34:16
RIP Edmund Meinerts


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-20 12:39:45
You seriously think this is better than Lord of the Rings?


ERS2014-05-20 13:20:25
This just in: Backdraft will go down in history as the best score ever written for film. You heard it here first, folks! People three centuries from now will remember BACKDRAFT as the pivotal score that had "impressive sound."


RealFfingMusic@23142014-05-20 13:44:40
No, we don't. :P


badbu2014-05-20 13:59:00
@Edmund: yes, i think this is better! :)


Greg2014-05-20 14:02:45
This is the worst bullshit i ve ever read since the bible...
How is it even possible to think that this score which doesnt even have 1h of music can beat the LOTR and its 12 hours of music?
Backdraft, honnestly no one gives a fuck about that one, LOTR has sold out its concerts for the last past years so please think this straight.


badbu2014-05-20 14:23:41
ok sorry, i change my feelings and my mind :D


Anonymous2014-05-20 15:24:28
there are more interesting subjects to press on than what's the best music ever written. I for one like to know what happened during the album production for this film. Compared to this bootleg the stuff on the Milan disc sound like all new recordings. Tthat epilogue cue in particular sounds hell of a lot better on the Milan disc than here, even if the sound quality is not so good.


ZimmerFan2014-05-20 17:51:30
Of course, I love me some Zimmer, but only Zimmer drones think this beats things like Jurassic Park and LOTR. Pathethic...


Per2014-05-20 18:23:13
The film mix (or original mix or what you wanna call it) of the Epilogue cue (or all the cues for that matter, but in particular the Epilogue) I find far more superior, and more enjoying, and certainly more powerful!, than the lousy album mixes.

Only thing I liked about the album mix was that extra piano...


Ds2014-05-20 20:42:03
This is a nice score but holy shit it doesn't hold a candle to most HZ scores, and certainly not to HTTYD!


Marcorea2017-03-30 10:31:53
I gotta agree with ds here. I love BACKDRAFT and I'm a pretty big hz fan but there is no comparison. Especially with HTTYD. IMO zimmer cannot orchestrate in the same way with an organic orchestra the same way as shore, Willian's and even powell. He adds a lot of extra layers through synth. But zimmer is the best at the style of music he produces.


David2018-04-23 20:21:59
It's been nearly 27 years since this came out in 1991.


Michael Hayko2020-05-08 21:35:58
Well said Greg! Obviously a boot?

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 2 || 2017-03-29 16:47:31
Listening to this complete score for the first time and it's really striking how different the mix is on the album. The snare drums are much further forward, and everything sounds a lot brighter and immediate but also "thinner" on the album. Whereas the film mix has synth parts I didn't even know exist, like at the very beginning of the main titles/"Fighting 17th".

I'm trying to decide which version I like more, and it's difficult! The film versions sound "richer" but I miss the ballsy snare drum rhythms...


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-29 23:21:21
One is HZ, the other (the album) is not. End of story... :P


detective mittens2018-01-13 19:56:14
I think it's great if you have both versions, so you can choose whichever you feel like :)

I agree with everything you said except that I don't miss the ballsy snare drum rhythms so my vote goes to this mix xD

David reply Replies: 1 || 2014-07-14 22:28:40
Where can this album be purchased?


Zimson2014-07-15 05:30:11
It's a bootleg, so it's not for sale. *** EDITED ***

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-19 17:05:28
In the loving memory of Shirley Walker.

Krieger reply Replies: 2 || 2013-04-30 00:52:15
Is there anywhere i can buy/download this complete score? I cannot find it, ANYWHERE.

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Terry2013-07-16 14:35:33
got to www.elitesoundtracks.co.uk they have it instock


Aggelos2014-05-18 10:53:32
Why dere iz no dizcuzion for diz Zimmer zweetie?
Diz iz a great expanded zcore! Diz is da cummah!!! Zimmer unleazh his fury and wrath with diz zoundtrax back in 1991!!!


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