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Where could I find out about special soundtrack editions by Zimmer in the future? (Like the Interstellar Illuminated Edition or Man of Steel Red Steel album) before they sell out in the future? For example if Hans released a special score for Dunkirk, where do I find announcements specifically for this sort of thing?
I found back the lengthy interviews Henry, Atli & Geoff gave about the POTC 3 process from 2007... Unfortunately everything is in French lol... :/
Were could I find it?
Maybe Maxpotcats (above us) can listen to it and translate it for us since he's French lol
Can you translate them, Hybrid? :)
If I recall correctly hybrid is French....
Where can I found this ? I'm French so it's not a problem lol
Max Potcats (the french guy)
hey guys if you want I can try to translate the interviews for you, just send me the link ;)
No translating an English ITW into French and translate it back to English is the worst on this planet, trust me, I'll just try to find the guy who did them and see if I can get the original versions... :)
The interview confirms what we knew already, all the material that breaks out of standard Zimmer/RC patterns with fun, complex orchestrations, key and tempo variation, woodwinds and interesting counterpoint is classically trained Jackman. Hats off to him!
But I can think of plenty of tracks from AWE that do all of those things - "Maelstrom Part 1", "Trying to Get Lost", "Beckett's Death", most of the suites - and which Jackman was not involved with. I don't think it's fair to ascribe all the quality orchestral writing to him alone. Much of it, sure (he'll have a place in my heart for his involvement with "Marry Me" and by extension "Up is Down" forever, that piece is extremely special to me). But to say all of it does a disservice to the great work that EVERYBODY did on this score.
Good day! Is it possible to purchase just the track 64 somehow? I need just this track (on physical medium) and I would pay for the CD with only this track. I'm sorry if my question is not allowed here.
Sure, pal, I can burn it down for ya! That'd be $39.99, what's your address?
New Love Theme is basically "Mary ME" suite, it's already in the OST treasures collection CD.
What is the source of these samples? Are they just from the recording sessions, or were they offered by the composers themselves? Also, what exactly is the nature of this site? Is it just a fan site, or is there some input by the Remote Control Productions crew?
Is Geoff Zanelli still set to do POTC5? Or was the announcement from a while back put out too fast, and things have changed?
It's way to soon, the film in 2017... Nothing official yet, but no bad news either... I'm sure it'll be the case ! ;)
Lol, imagine some guy like Christophe Beck gets hired for PotC 5. I would get really, really mad.
Don't worry... lol
Better Christophe Beck than another On Stranger Tides, IMO.
Disagree, I still prefer On Stranger Tides over 99% of Beck's scores. The whole thing was a mess but there were some really good cues.
Have you heard Ant-Man or his Percy Jackson score? Beck does good work, when he's allowed to...it's just that most of his assignments don't allow him to (either because it's a shitty comedy or if he gets a difficult director like Doug Liman).
I found Ant Man to be serviceable. It's fine on picture and gives a nice atmosphere to the movie (even if I couldn't help missing Steven Price & Edgar Wright during the whole thing), but I'd never buy the album or listen to it separately. I didn't say Beck was bad, I simply think his music is just "okay", I've never heard anything really outstanding.
Gentlemen,can you please tell me where I can get this complete soundtrack? Or at least some songs that were not part of the official piece...I would be really glad for ,,Black pearl is missing" especially,thank you :)
Well, there is always google ;) And the forum that shall not be named.
I'm still kind of new to this site so I don't understand what these expanded releases are? Are these available to purchase or are they just being posted to show what was actually in the movie? Thank you.
Most of the time, they are unofficial releases : that is to say that they are available in some form, but normally can't be purchased officially (even if, in truth, you can nearly always do it on the "second-hand market"). To know if this is an official release or not, just look at the label indicated on the pages for each album.
Moreover, it's not always "what was actually in the movie". "Expanded" doesn't mean "Complete", plus you must consider that Zimmer always write suites that don't appear in the movie in their original form (even if they are greatly used to write to the image). Finally, an expanded edition can countain some rejected and alternate cues.
Lambeque, thank you for that explaination. I appreciate it.
Just out of curiosity. Are the treasure collection suites, Pirate Lord of Singapore, Heart of Davy Jones, Marry Me, and Cutler Beckett edited versions of much larger suites that still remain below the surface? I'm curious because I know the tracks Day One & Just Good Business are abridged edits of demos, and the hoist the colors suite seems to be as well. I've also noticed that the Singapore track on the regular album contains cues that were not used in the film and absent from the sessions release. Did Hans Zimmer have even more ideas for these themes that we still have yet to hear? or am I just looking too far into this?
Singapore contains a short intro from The Pirate Lord of Singapore (parts of this are into Arrival in Singapore), extracts from Battle with the Brits, Elizabeth Is Calypso and Crew Arrives (Part 2) - Davy Jones Locker.
The album track does contain pieces of film music from various scenes but the very beginning (before the battle sequence) contains different cues than the film and the orchestration is slightly different than the treasure collection suite.
Because it's probably from the original Singapore suite, not the Treasure version...
That's what I figured, either that or some alternate. However I'd like to jump back to my initial question. Are all of other treasure suites based on a bigger and more epic demo? or are they subtle changes like different orchestration and omitted micro edits? Like some sections in the Beckett demo.
Hans' discography on Wikipedia lists Pirates 5....but this is just Wikipedia being stupid, right? Hans hasn't been confirmed for the project? I know Hybrid said Hans wasn't interested after POTC4.....
As far as I know, there is no official announcement concerning the soundtrack of Pirates 5...So yes, this information is nothing real for the moment :)
A year ago Hans told me he already said "no" to Disney...
But who knows, after all this time... lol
Maybe that's why the movie isn't even greenlit yet... :)
I still think it would be great if Hans could make an awesome score for POTC5, thus redeeming himself, and allow us to forget On Unfortunate Tides, but I understand if he doesn't want to do it.
redeem himself? come now. he was always going to do something great for pirates 4. it was the film makers who didn't want it.
Unless Verbinski returns to the Pirates franchise I am not expecting the inspired Hans to chime in either.
"It was the film makers who didn't want it."
Speaking of that, do we know WHY they didn't? It seems kinda weird to throw out new ideas for no reason...
"It was the film makers who didn't want it." The film makers and the producers, mainly Disney...
"Speaking of that, do we know WHY they didn't? It seems kinda weird to throw out new ideas for no reason..." I suppose they considered that because old ideas worked before, and were well known and appreciated by the public, it was a good thing to use them again and again...Maybe they considered that people would not realise how innapropriate these temptracks were, or maybe even them did not understand it...
I certainly hope he returns, but who knows at this point. Disney is perhaps the most creatively "protective" studio out there, meaning they want to milk what worked in the past until there's nothing creative left (this coming from a Disney lover).
I really like the mix of the Beckett and Singapore themes in the last 20 seconds of "Arrive in Singapore".
Are we playing this game again? It would be faster to list the cues that aren't amazing. Umm...There are a few boring stretches in Multiple Jacks...Davy Jones Visits Tia Dalma is mostly rehash of stuff from DMC that wasn't so great to begin with...uh...Some shorter tracks are a bit pointless...
I give up. I can't say bad things about this score with a straight face. :D
The latter half of "Parlay" isn't the best, and indeed, Multiple Jacks is rather boring. I'm also not a huge fan of Hoist the Colors as a song.
I hope the Pirates 5 score redeems the awful Stranger Tides score. Stranger tides is an apt title, though--usually POTC music is good!
I hope there doesn't need to be a POTC5 score... xD
The mermaid theme in Tides was noteworthy. It's just a shame all the music couldn't have been.
You know Mike it has been announced that there is going to be a POTC5.
I know, but they can still decide to cancel it before it's too late.
Gosh Jack and Beckett is awesome. The way it plays the tune of the Jack Sparrow theme in the style of the Beckett theme beginning at 5:16 is incredible
That's the kind of subtle thematic touch that makes At World's End so great. It's full of little moments like that. Such a great, great score.
Agreed Great score one of my fav's
I've been listening to that cue for nearly as long as the film has been around (slightly exaggerated, but this is quite possibly my favorite score), and I've never been able to make that connection. I can pick apart just about all the rest of the music from all films, but every time I get to that bit I think, "This must be a one-time appearance of a variation of Beckett's theme."
Now it FINALLY clicked! Thank you Anonymous stranger! And thank you to all the composers that wrote this score, too, for still amazing me 6 years later!!!
Indeed, that section is great stuff. I also find the statement of the Calypso theme beginning at 3:29 to be haunting in a beautiful sort of way.
You're welcome, Areozz. Glad I could help. ;) I really like the POTC1 reprisal at the end of the cue.
Speaking of this cue, Hybrid Soldier, do you know who wrote "Lord Cutler Beckett" (the suite)? I always assumed it was Zimmer, but I'm not entirely sure, because it looks like Lorne handled the "Original Demo/Just Good Business" Beckett suite, so it's possible he did "Lord Cutler Beckett", too.
I think it's by Lorne Balfe. On his official page you can listen to a demo of this suite :)
I know Lorne Balfe did "Just Good Business", but the "Lord Cutler Beckett" suite on the album is a different one.
As for the "Unreleased" fourth CD =>
"Hoist The Colours Suite" is HZ / Verbinski / Glennie-Smith
"Marry Me" is HZ / Jackman
"Just Good Business" is HZ / Balfe
Don't know about the others, Pirate Lord is probably HZ only.
Well, I learned something new today: I always though the suites (except "Just Good Business") were Hans alone. Do you know which parts of Marry Me were done by Jackman, or is that too specific?
We are talking POTC. The genesis of this saga is clear => "alone" does not apply in that world... :P
"All hands on deck," to borrow Geoff Zanelli's pun.
Lord Cutler Beckett sounds a lot like HZ's own writing style. There is also a strong Peacemaker vibe to it from the 7:03 mark onwards.
Pirate Lord may be Jackman's. It sounds very much like all the Asian stuff he did for Kung Fu Panda and GI Joe 2.
Indeed, Anonymous. Actually, as much as I'm thankful for Hybrid's answer, the one suite he did not address was Lord Cutler Beckett! :P
"Marry Me" is my favorite cue of pretty much all time...never knew Jackman had a hand in it! That's a little weird to me...^^ Though I guess I should have known considering the second half is basically an extended version of "Up is Down". I'm guessing that everything up to roughly the 7-minute mark, i.e. the dramatic variations on the love theme(s), is HZ alone, and from then onwards, i.e. the "Up is Down" portion, is HZ/Jackman.
Did Verbinski really help compose the "Hoist the Colors Suite" or is he just credited there because he helped write the theme? I guess I'm not really surprised about NGS' involvement, nor am I about Balfe's in "Just Good Business" (in fact, I knew that one already for some reason).
About the others..."Lord Cutler Beckett" could easily be HZ alone as it indeed bears a lot of resemblance to The Peacemaker. As for "Pirate Lord of Singapore", I always suspected that Geoff Zanelli had a hand in that one, as he did a lot of the Singapore sequence. But I'm just as willing to believe it's HZ alone, as it reminds me a lot of The Last Samurai and even Beyond Rangoon in parts.
Yay for people talking about At World's End. :D
And the one everyone forgets about for some reason, "The Heart of Davy Jones"...well, it's basically just a (gorgeous) variation of the Davy Jones theme, so I'm guessing Hans alone on that one.
Well, *I* didn't mention The Heart of Davy Jones--lovely though it is--because it's Dead Man's Chest material. ;)
Lord Cutler Beckett, whether that suite was composed by Zimmer and Balfe or just Zimmer, is awesome! It's the perfect mixture of refined and ruthless, just like Beckett himself.
Indeed, Anonymous. I wonder why Beckett got two suites. I mean, they're great, both of them, so I'm not complaining, but I wonder what transpired that made it so.
I always was under the impression that "Just Good Business" was less a suite and more an early version of the music for the first part of the maelstrom battle (you can hear very small parts of it leak through in the actual "Maelstrom Pt. 1" cue, such as at 2:00). Don't remember where I heard that though. In the end they went for a more thematically diverse track which I think is slightly better as a CUE...but they're both excellent. :)
That strikes me as unlikely. It's titled here (in its longer form) as "Beckett Theme (Original Demo)". That doesn't seem like a cue to me. It seems like it's a suite.
"I remember showing up one day, I think it was our first scoring session, and I walk in and Hans has got the orchestra going and I kinda am watchin' the cue and I'm like, 'Wow, great cue--wow, this is already like a 3 minute cue, I mean, gosh...Wait a minute, there's no picture running...Wait a minute, this is like FIVE minutes. This is like seven minutes! What's this guy doing???' So finally the cue ends after 9 minutes, no picture, running nothing--okay, 12 minutes--and I walk over to him and I go, 'Dude, where's the picture????' He goes, 'No, we're not doing it to picture today'. I said, 'Well what are you doing????' He said, 'I'm warming up the orchestra. We're recording these things in suites, so that when I bring them back to do each cue individually, they'll be masters at it."
Given the 12 minute length, I can only assume it was "Marry Me". "Great cue" indeed!
How could you assume? Wouldn't you remember what it sounded like if you were there..?
Someone mentioned King Arthur below...Well listen to 1:50-1:58 in Davy's Death and tell me THAT doesn't sound like King Arthur.
It does. It isn't rocket science. New things sound like other old things because they use the old things as temp tracks. People like it, so then they rework it a little bit. It's a surprisingly common thing and sometimes it happens across composers.
Oh man, "Trying to Get Lost" just blows me away whenever I hear it. Zimmer truly outdid himself with that cue! One of the best he's done.
It also proves to me that while there will always be people who say Zimmer is "lazy" for having so many composers work on his scores, or that he's "lost it", he truly hasn't and still knows how to make an amazing piece of music. If Hybrid is correct, after all, then "Trying to Get Lose" (arguably one of the best cues of the film) is Hans alone, no additional arrangers or anything. :)
And I agree, it's an astounding piece.
I could go on and on about the things I love about this score. The love theme, the Beckett theme, the Calypso theme, the Hoist the Colors theme, the way they're all expertly mixed together in the Maelstrom scenes, the lack of "use old cues again and again"... I sound like almost everyone else on this page, but this is one of Zimmer/RCP's best if you ask me.
Eh, who cares if we sound like everyone else: it's one of RCP's finest for sure! I like scores that feel like a lot of effort was put into them, which is why POTC3 and The Last Samurai are among my favorites. I don't even listen to them much compared to others, but you can just tell that those who worked on them really wanted to make a good score.
I find that The Heart of Davy Jones' cues are some of the best as well.
God DAMN Maelstrom Pt. 1 is an awesome action cue. I really think Zimmer and co managed to reach an almost John Williams-like level of thematic complexity with this score, and it's the unsurpassed jewel in RCP's crown for me. :D
I may get a lot of heat for this but I guess I've personally never really seen what everyone else sees in this score. It's great music, but RCP has churned out far more memorable. Aside from the love theme and Calypso theme, not a lot in AWE really resonates with me as much as others. Especially not the action music.
Despite some big stuff in this one, I still consider POTC 2 to be superior... :)
Not even Beckett's stuff, Cheesy? Or the new arrangements of Davy Jones' theme? Or Hoist the Colors?
I think this is the best action stuff (together with King Arthur) that RCP has ever written. Esp the theme blending of all previous scores is great. Great stuff.
But it is all a matter of taste. I don't inception very memorable. yet everyone is drooling over that score.
This score was written as if it was RCP's last night on Earth, and that's how all RCP commisioned scores should be written if you want the quality material that this scored offered.
Gotta agree with Hybrid Soldier. Sure, this film had some fantastic score, and the maelstrom score was probably in the top 5 action movie scores of all time.. but Dead Man's Chest was just more powerful.
Another thing about the Maelstrom score - In my mind, score-wise, you have the first 2 POTC movies, then everything in At World's End except for the Maelstrom as 3 wholes. Then, you have the Maelstrom.. which blends ALL of those scores together ( Literally, only a few themes didn't make it in there. The only one I can think of is The Kraken's theme and a few minor cues from the other movies - And it's good they didn't reuse the Kraken's theme, it fit the Kraken and the Kraken only. ) It was literally a maelstrom of music.
I don't think Inception or King Arthur's scores come even close to this. It's not even a comparison for me.
About Kraken's theme, with Disney's madness, I'm surprised we didn't hear it in POTC 4 haha...
"I'm surprised we didn't hear it in POTC 4..." XD My thought exactly.
Not that I'm trying to argue - I just feel like giving my thought on #2 vs. #3. To me, Dead Man's Chest felt like POTC 1 with the Jack/Davy Jones/Kraken themes attached. A good score, no doubt, but it didn't feel much different than the first movie.
For example, in the wedding/Beckett scene, the first piece of music we heard was the exact same piece as is found in the album track "To the Pirates Cave!" (from POTC1). Then, aside from Beckett's theme being played over it, the music when he appears was used exactly like that in POTC1 as well.
As another example, there's the music when Will is asking people about Jack. That music was used pretty much verbatim in POTC1 around the scene when Jack and Will commandeer the ship.
And as a final example, parts of the Jack/Will/Norrington sword-fight were exactly the same as Will and Jack's fight in the first movie.
With POTC3, on the other hand, there were a ton of new themes and repetition of old material only happened occasionally.
Either way...I'm sure we can all agree that they're both good scores.
Yeah of course I've listened this saga (yeah... 4 included) countless times ! It's just one veeeeeeeeery long score... :)
"This score was written as if it was RCP's last night on Earth"
Thanks Bioscope for this wonderful quote. It reflects exactly how magic this score actually is. This may be a sequel, this is still one of the most original and fresh score i've ever heard. I hope Hans is proud of this one, because this is pure art.
The movie's last hour is a dream for the ears: Parlay, Calypso's transformation, Hoist the Colours, the Maelstrom, Beckett's epic death and then the wonderful, unforgettable love theme. 6 years later it still gives me goosebump as if it was the first time. Thank you Hans.
Last night on Earth I'm not sure. It's just... you basically have a wonderful team on it ! Lorne, Jackman, Atli, NGS, MagicBox and of course Geoff with HZ. Can't beat that, it tops the POTC 1 or The Rock team... :)
Nice one, Hybrid. I've said it before and I'll say it again: At World's End is the ultimate example of an amazing team coming together in exactly the right way.
Maybe one of the reasons why Angels and Demons is my favorite Zimmer score of the last few years is because it's largely the same team: Hans, Atli, Geoff, Lorne and NGS.
Angels & Demons is, indeed, a good score.
I just wish this could've been the last POTC score! I've never heard an equal trilogy-capper of a score besides maybe John Williams' score to Revenge of the Sith. :)
The Marry Me suite is one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard. :)
Amen to that! "Marry Me", "Time", and "A Dark Knight" would definitely have to go on my list of "Hans Zimmer's most amazing themes ever".
Don't forget Chevaliers De Sangreal, Now We Are Free, and The Heart of Davy Jones! ;)
Or "Tennessee" from Pearl Harbor.
Marry Me is my favorite Zimmer theme and cue as well. Although all of the suggestions below are also great pieces. I'll throw in the main theme from Crimson Tide as well as practically the proto power anthem. Such an influential score.
You guys are right. These are all AMAZING themes. Moving and addictive!
I'd add "Hummel Gets The Rockets" from The Rock and "All Of Them" from King Arthur.
A favorite of mine that hardly anyone mentions is The Burning Bush from The Prince of Egypt. It really conveys the presence of God.
And 9:11-14:12 in "Rocket Away" from the Rock! :D
Hybrid Soldier, since you're virtually famous, what Zimmer work is your favorite? :P
Depends on the mood... ;)
+1 "Marry Me" (and every reprise/variation of the Love Theme from AwE) is a wonderful piece of music. :)
... and don't forget "Show Me Your Firetruck" or "Journey To The Line". ;)
I'll always get chills when I listen to The Burning Heart from Hannibal. Such an under-appreciated cue in HZ's repertoire. Or To Every Captive Soul. I enjoy that love theme just a tad bit more than Marry Me. That in no way belittles Marry Me for me, it's one of HZ's best themes ever. Other ignored cues, I believe, are First Ideas from Frost/Nixon, The Banker's Waltz from Matchstick Men (and the whole score for that matter), and really the whole score to Two Deaths (granted, that one's hard to find).
Aye, many great masterpieces! Don't forget the instrumental Lion King score and the bittersweet anthem for Crimson Tide!
Air and Science and Religion from Angels and Demons, Heart of Davy Jones.
Sure, but all of those were years ago, why doesn't Hans write something like that anymore :/ maybe for Winter's Tale
Actually, I didn't include this one above because I thought we were referring to "beautiful" music rather than "epic" music, but now that the scope isn't so limited, I would definitely include Wayne Manor in this list. That's a modern one, Cabox.
Holy crud. This score (and it's not even complete) borders on 4 hours. That is impressive.
EDIT: Looked like it said 2:33'30, not 2:23'30. Still, I stand by what I said.
Of which the actually newly composed material comprises about 10 minutes...There's nothing impressive about a score that's 90% tracked-in cues from the previous entries in the franchise.
WTF Edmund, did you actually read what you just posted???
And have you heard the score? The vast majority of it is barely rearranged material from Pirates 1-3. They use Davy Jones and Cutler Beckett's themes for chrissake.
OH CRAP. I'm on the wrong page, aren't I. Uh...there isn't a delete post option on this website, is there? XD XD XD
...I love Pirates 3, by the way...
I was gonna say, Edmund... XD If you're referring to Dead Man's Chest, though, I agree with the original comment completely.
And of course POTC4 was atrocious. That goes without saying.
Yeah, for some reason I thought this was On Stranger Tides...I wouldn't have said that about Dead Man's Chest, though!
I guess with Dead Man's Chest you can either say it is a good sequel score or it isn't. I actually do enjoy it quite a bit, but it feels like there isn't much new material. There's the themes for Davy Jones and the Kraken and those are nice. We only hear the very beginning of Beckett's theme in that movie, and Tia Dalma's theme isn't present very often. The drunk Jack Sparrow theme is technically new, but it sounds like music from the first movie. Then the rest of the score is pretty much a regurgitation of Curse of the Black Pearl.
Though, of course, Dead Man's Chest is a far better score than On Stranger Tides, and only nerds like me really take this much time to analyze how much new music there is. :P
I'd say DMC is at least a better movie than AWE. But thats just me I wouldnt call its score a major regurgitation still, there are more new cues than just the ones people remember
Actually, there was one awesome new cue when Jack is chained to to the ship and gets eaten by the Kraken (Hello Beastie on the album). And then of course there was the cannibal island music, but that wasn't very memorable. To me, at least.
Actually Mike, even the track "Hello Beastie" wasn't even all that new. Listen to the score "King Arthur" (2005), track 3 "Do You Think I'm Saxon?" Then listen to "Hello Beastie." The similarities are everywhere! Maybe Hybrid can confirm this, but that track might've even been used as a temp, it's like exactly the same.
Remind me again why DMC is being discussed on the AWE page?
My guess, Jimmer, would be that the scene in question used the King Arthur piece as a temp track and then modeled the official music after it. Kind of like the way "Time" from Inception is based off "Journey to the Line" from The Thin Red Line.
Funny cause the cue you mention is actually by Hans... I mean, himself ! ;)
More like "finishing an idea once started" ! ;)
Actually, I think that Dead Man's Chest had more new material than any of the other movies. The Jack Sparrow theme, though based on a cameo cue in COTPB, was mostly new. Davy's Jones' theme was completely new, The Kraken's theme was completely new, and Jack's Action theme was completely new. That's the majority of the score in the movie right there.
Beckett's theme, Tia Dalma's theme... :)
Okay so Dead Man's Chest had the three major new themes, Jack, Kraken and Davy Jones (plus Jack's action theme), the beginnings of Beckett and Dalma's themes and a small standalone theme for the Cannibal Island. Not bad - that's seven by my count.
But At World's End had the love theme, which is really three separate melodies put together (A, B and C phrases), the Hoist the Colors theme (again two melodies, verse and chorus), Beckett's new full theme, Sao Feng's theme and (stretching a little here) the World's End theme. I'm inclined to throw in the parachute theme as well, even though it only crops up once, just because of how damn memorable it is. So that makes nine new themes! Plus, each score is progressively richer because it builds on what came before (with certain exceptions like the Kraken being confined only to DMC), so in reality AWE has over two dozen themes. Like I said...VERY complex thematically, and hence why I think it's RCP's best!
Well Edmund my little problem with POTC 3 is basically the problem I have with the movie...
It kinda gets boring & too long in its "Brethren Court" sequence. And the score follows... It's all calm and then turns into big mayhem with the Maelstrom.
From minute 1 to the last, POTC 2 flows better. The structure of the score and film is better in 2. Of course, "Jack & Beckett" or "Jiggy Kraken" or "Green Flash" have almost no equivalent in 2.
But hey, we won't fight to know which masterpiece is the best...
Sao Feng's Death => HZ, Balfe (Verbinski, Zanelli)
Chinese Captured By Brits => HZ, Balfe
Bootstraps - Elizabeth Locker => HZ, Balfe
Jack Catches Will (Part 1) => HZ, Balfe
Escape - Norrington Dies => HZ, Örvarsson (Neely)
Shipwreck Cove => HZ, Zanelli (Verbinski)
Brethren Court Begins => HZ, Balfe (Verbinski)
Davy Jones Visits Tia Dalma => HZ, Balfe (Verbinski)
Teague & The Code => HZ, Örvarsson (Verbinski)
Parlay => HZ
Flying Dutchman Prison => HZ, Örvarsson
Calypso On Deck => HZ, Zanelli (Badelt)
Releasing Calypso => HZ, Zanelli
Hoist The Colours Declaration => HZ, Glennie-Smith (Verbinski)
Maelstrom (Part 1) => HZ, Tom Gire/John Sponsler (Verbinski, Zanelli)
Getting The Chest => HZ, Tom Gire/John Sponsler (Badelt)
A Lost Bird => HZ, Tom Gire/John Sponsler (Verbinski, Badelt)
The Wedding => HZ, Jackman (Badelt)
Maelstrom (Part 2) => HZ, Tom Gire/John Sponsler (Badelt)
Davy's Death => HZ, Jackman (Badelt, Zanelli)
Liftoff => HZ, Zanelli
Beckett's Death => HZ, Örvarsson (Badelt)
Celebration => HZ, Tom Gire/John Sponsler
One Day => HZ, Jackman
The Fountain Of Youth => HZ, Balfe
End Titles => HZ, Zanelli
End Credits (Green Flash) => HZ, Jackman
End Credits (Hoist The Colours) => HZ, Glennie-Smith (Verbinski)
That's it ! :)
Thanks for the credits Hybrid Soldier!
Hybrid Soldier, could you add the credits to the tracklist below? Thanks for them btw! :D
Never mind, I just read your previous comment about it xD
Just to clarify, Hybrid: the names listed inside parentheses indicate tracks that were written new but use old themes written by the composers in said parentheses?
If one were to want to tag the sessions, ideally would one include the names in the parentheses?
It's all new cues there, it contains theme written by Klaus Badelt & Blake Neely from POTC 1. And of course Verbinski (Zanelli too for his Tia Dalma theme), but he co-wrote the Hoist the Colours theme but certainly didn't work on any cue of the film.
For my personal tagging, I basically keep people who were involved in the film music writing (no Klaus or Blake).
But to be totally fair you could add them, yeah.
Cool, thanks for credits!
Thank you! From taking a look at this list, can one make the assumptions that Henry Jackman was behind the new love theme and Atli Örvarsson was behind the Multiple Jacks theme?
It also appears that a couple credits are missing. Can the credits for the OST help to fill in the gaps? I noticed the credits for some of the cues that make up "At Wit's End" on the OST are not present here. I wonder, if one were to take a close enough look at the music detailed here and see who wrote what, if one could infer who did the remaining cues...
Right for Atli. But the Love Theme is HZ, though yeah Jackman was in charge of arranging it most of the time (Lorne did too on Below Deck).
At Wit's End is made of "Trying To Get Lost" (HZ) + "Davy Jones Commanded" + "Crew Embarks" (HZ/AO/HJ) + "Over The Edge" (HZ/GZ/HJ)
And we know At Wit's End is by HZ/LB/GZ/AO/HJ. So yeah, by elimination, "Davy Jones Commanded" is HZ/LB. :)
When you attach names to these cues like Geoff Zanelli or whoever, does that mean that that composer took Hans' cues and arranged them, and Hans was essentially uninvolved with the formation of that cue as such?
I love 0:53-1:10 in Maelstrom Part 1, how it mixes Beckett's theme with Hoist the Colors. 1:43-1:52 is really awesome as well.
If we ever see an expanded score release (as in, more cues, not just the suites, great though those are), I'd love to have the whole 20 or so minutes of the Maelstrom/battle music. We only got 6 minutes on the album in the second half of "I Don't Think Now Is the Best Time".
What are you complaining about? Something expanded that you could pay money for--or have someone ELSE pay money for? The sessions are out; this is AT LEAST 95% of all of the music ever written, conducted, and recorded for this film. All 20 of those minutes are on the sessions so what the hell are you asking for?
What am I asking for? A LEGAL way to get the stuff.
Oh yeah...You're the guy who asked permission to use a custom fan-made cover somewhere for his own private iTunes library. Your intentions might be good and honest, but your species is dying. You're in a world full of pirates.
Best to go out with pride, I guess.
I liked how in Dead Man's Chest Becket claimed "The world is shrinking. Jack Sparrow is a dying breed." as in he's a pirate, yet here we are. The 21st century bootlegers.