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So first impressions:<br><br>JP knocked this one out of the park! The whole score has this excellent swashbuckling vibe, which is surprisingly aggressive during the action sequences (entirely due to his trademark percussion).<br><br>The writing style is really interesting, it’s basically John Powell doing his usual style but with some Williams flourishes, especially during the softer cues. The Star Wars themes do return, but not as heavily as Rogue One. And of course the JW cue is great, although surprisingly structured more as an action cue as opposed to a concert suite.<br><br>And for some reason the Han theme sounds vaguely similar to Poe’s theme from Force Awakens.Let’s just say “Reminiscience Therapy”.... hold onto your seats! ;-)This score is awesome!! Powell did a great job at making a score that's differet than all the other SW scores, but still you know it's a SW score. He reprised Williams' theme brilliantly and I can't stop to listen to it!!!what about the music when batman makes it back to the cave and lex opens the case of kryptonite. cant find it in theseYeah I can't agree that Inception or Interstellar are superior pieces of scoring. Certainly not in structure, thematic development, etc. <br><br>What defined those scores is the vision behind them more so than the execution. In so many ways, that is opposite of The World's End. Interstellar is a brilliant score that managed to provide each scene with a simplistic tone, but one that captured the atmosphere behind the scenes perfectly, such as the unique use of the organ. Same with Inception with the guitars. <br><br>With a World's End, the vision is nothing special. It is a rock and roll twist to classic music. But the execution brings enormous power and gravitas to the movie.<br><br>I would sum it up by saying that in Interstellar and Inception, the creation of the music drives the movie's ideas while in At World's End, the movie drives the creation of the music.
Nazg&#251;l for Azog I will never forgive. It's not a Servant of Sauron theme, it's a Ringwraith theme, and Azog's not a Ringwraith, he's a goddam Orc, and that theme doesn't belong there, full stop. It was just put there because it sounds "epic" and would "pump up the action scene". Gondor Restored at the end is just as stupid. And the Dreaming of Bag End theme for Bilbo is indeed lovely, and would have been lovelier still if it actually appeared in the movie. Instead it just gets replaced by copy/pasted Hobbit music from LOTR instead because Peter Jackson desperately wants his audience to remember how good those movies were in lieu of the Hobbit ones being any good on their own. Needless to say it goes missing entirely from the second and third score...along with the Misty Mountains melody (the strongest theme of the first one). I still really like those scores overall but they got absolutely butchered in terms of their thematic usage in the films. Then again those movies were an absolute clusterfuck so I shouldn't be surprised.<br><br>WRT Harry Potter, the 3 note theme does work okay for Voldemort, except that there's already a longer, separate Voldemort theme in Philosopher's, one that I like even more, and which only gets used once in Chamber (when Riddle rearranges the letters). I can understand liking Chamber better than Philosopher when you compare the albums, but in terms of the complete scores there's no contest at all, Philosopher wins by a country mile because of Chamber's rehash issues (and there are some good cues missing from the album, such as the Troll and Forbidden Forest scenes).@Edmund<br>The thing with the Nolan scores (at least Interstellar/Inception) is that they are repetitive, in as much as being built heavily around the suites that I’m guessing they use to edit and temp the film. <br>And while the themes are simple I do think they are structured in a unique enough way which builds emotional resonance through the gradual increase in chords/volume/speed/etc. Even Dunkirk is a relatively simple score theme wise, but is so technically complex.<br><br>And personally I’ve never been in love with Inception. I admire it on a technical level, but outside of “Time” I find it to be a fairly cold score. Obviously what it was meant to do so not a complaint, more of a personal preference thing.You know, I actually like Chamber of Secrets much more than Philosopher's Stone. It has the best moments from that score with improved themes. (I actually like the 3 note motif for Voldemort better than it being used for the stone, it already sounded like the Sith theme from Star Wars so might as well go all the way with it.) It felt more tight, better paced, and had an overall more energetic feel to it.<br><br>The Hobbit, I'm not entirely sure where you're getting heartbreaking from. If you mean the state of its release I absolutely agree, if you're talking about its reprisals the only one I had any issue with was the Return of the King/Gondor Restored theme which had nothing to do with Thorin and Bilbo's relationship. <br><br>The Nazghul theme being used for Azog I thought was fine as he was a servant of Sauron in the movies, History of the Ring and Gollum's themes were used effectively, and the new thematic material for the first film, I thought was wonderful. The themes A Baggins of Bag-End and The Lonely Mountain song being used as a Fellowship type of theme are the greatest highlights for me.See, I don't find Inception or Interstellar (or Thin Red Line) all that "complex". Especially not compared to At World's End (how many themes are in that score, like 15? 20? Pretty much all of which show up in rapid succession during the Maelstrom battle?). The Nolan scores are more about building up around very simple conceptual ideas.<br><br>Unless you're talking about emotional complexity, which is a very different thing and not really possible to objectively judge...You know, I don't think I've ever really gotten the full story surrounding that score. I've heard conflicting reports. My personal belief is that Ross did little to no substantial composition and that all the new stuff (themes, suites, new cues and also significantly fresh arrangements of old material) is pure Williams, but that film is full of reused music from the first film (it's actually quite frustrating, not as bad as On Stranger Tides or as heartbreaking as The Hobbit, but a bit of a rehashy mess and it makes the key error of using the Philosopher's Stone motif as a Voldemort theme). That's where I think Ross comes in and was responsible for taking those cues verbatim from the first film and tweaking/rearranging them just enough to match the timings of the scenes without actually adding any of his "own" notes. His role is likely somewhere between additional music, arrangement and music editing (but as Hybrid likes to point out, oftentimes those sorts of roles are really blurred and overlapping anyways).<br><br>A guy at jwfan did an analysis that helps understand the nature of that score, but be warned, it goes *really* deep:<br><br>www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27619-finished-chamber -of-secrets-thematic-and-originality-analysis/
I'm trying to be objective* (sorry haha)@Anonymous Zimmer's best? Well... I'm trying to be subjective:<br>IMO The Thin Red Line remains the pinnacle of Hans' career from an artistic point of view. It's a turning point, though we've been used to this kind of writing since (so many scores have copied TTRL).<br><br>Inception and (especially) Interstellar are superior pieces of scoring as well. Their level of complexity is unmatched in Zimmer's discography.<br>Gladiator is another impressive score, as it combines some of the best action music, best drama and deepest emotions Hans has ever composed for a movie.<br><br>Seems like I'm quite objective here, as none of my favorites scores are on this list ! ;)Interesting you mention William Ross' role in Chamber of Secrets because I've never fully understood what his exact involvement was. Was he just an additional music composer? Or did he actually compose most of the score with John Williams only writing the suites? Just curious if you know.I mean, the thematic situation *is* a bit messy. You've got new themes by Powell, one new Williams theme adapted by Powell, and then existing Star Wars themes adapted by Powell. I agree the credits are a bit long-winded but I can't think of a more concise way to convey all that information.<br><br>What does bother me (and maybe this is my inner fanboy talking) is that it seems to downplay Powell's role a bit, listing him second and with the use of the word "adapted" which makes him feel a bit second fiddle. Remember how William Ross "adapted" Williams' music for Chamber of Secrets, by which was meant largely copying and pasting bits from Sorcerer's Stone? I have no doubt that Powell has done a far, far more substantial job here (and they do say "composed and adapted", to be fair). Then again, it's a Star Wars score, and of course they're going to put Williams' name front and center as much as possible no matter what.<br><br>This is all such nitpicking of the highest order :pHans for Star Wars ?<br><br><br>Never.<br><br><br>Ron probably asked him first and Hans probably was like "JOHN POWELL !!"
What would have happened if Ron Howard would have been the first choice to direct Solo? He would have chosen James Horner (if he wasn't dead) or try to convince Hans Zimmer to do the music. The only collaboration between Howard and maestro Williams was in the movie Far And Away.Poster in SpainA Star Wars score that sounds like a Powell score? I'm in.<br><br>From what I've heard of many people, the score is really great and apart from the Williams theme, I heard Powell also had a lot of great themes.<br><br>I cannot wait for it!Your source?Just saw the film, really fun and faced paced movie. The score is great, it has a solid main theme by John Williams (not as great as Rey theme though) but still memorable and john powell adapts this main theme in various variations throughout the film. Star Wars fan might be dissapointed by the score because this overall sounds like a typical Powell score which doesn’t really sound like a typical Star Wars movie. Still fans of Powell will love this new score.
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Lorne BalfeAndrew KawczynskiDavid FlemingJasha Klebe
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Assassin's Creed III (VG)
Label: UbiSoft Music (Digital Download Only)
Length: 63'41
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  1. Assassin's Creed III Main Theme (3:06)
  2. An Uncertain Present (2:10)
  3. Escape In Style (2:15)
  4. Welcome To Boston (2:34)
  5. Freedom Fighter (2:16)
  6. A Bitter Truth (1:36)
  7. Through The Frontier (3:01)
  8. Connor's Life (4:56)
  9. Trouble In Town (2:25)
  10. Farewell (1:05)
  11. HomeStead (3:02)
  12. The Battle Of Breed's Hill (2:18)
  13. Speck Of Dust (2:52)
  14. Modern Assassin (3:05)
  15. Desmond's Destiny (1:38)
  16. The Aquilla (2:18)
  17. Fight Club (2:05)
  18. Eye Of The Storm (2:07)
  19. Temple Secrets (1:41)
  20. Beer And Friends (1:10)
  21. Battle At Sea (4:01)
  22. Breaching The Walls (3:32)
  23. Wild Instincts (2:44)
  24. What Came Before (4:11)
  25. Assassin's Creed III Main Theme Variation (1:33)
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AC3 reply Replies: 0 || 2016-06-15 19:46:07
Does anyone have the chronological order of the complete score that Lorne posted on his site??


amir hossein reply Replies: 0 || 2015-01-26 18:19:38
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is incridible music.
I love this game.

Jasper reply Replies: 2 || 2013-10-22 01:44:13
The Black Flag soundtrack is out there. I know it's not really RCP related, but just thought I'd put it out there. And yes, Brian Tyler does a far better job at it than Lorne Balfe did, in my opinion, though I like both.


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-22 08:51:00
I wonder how many RCP people ghostwrote it without credit... :P


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-22 11:07:28
I was actually surprised to find myself quite bored by it, and I actually prefer Balfe's score. If you asked me whether I'd take Balfe or Tyler I'd pick the latter most days of the week, but in this case it's the other way around. So yeah, maybe there really was some ghostwriting going on...

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2013-07-10 15:05:41
An amazing score, the music is so fresh and dynamic and .. epic ! yes !!

Assassino reply Replies: 1 || 2013-07-09 01:34:27
Brian Tyler will compose the score for AC4.


Blu2013-07-09 06:18:34
Wow, this guy is getting way too much assignments these days. Must be quite a challenge. I hope he finds time to think about the notes he is writing too.

Markofrome reply Replies: 0 || 2013-04-05 00:30:04
Great Work Lorne!!! "Assassin's Creed III" and "The Tyranny of King Washington" soundtracks wonderful!

Bondo reply Replies: 1 || 2013-03-17 04:32:06
FYI guys, Lorne posted what appears to be the remaining unreleased music on his site ;)


theeaglesfan0052013-04-02 20:42:44
what's the correct order then?

AssassinoZockt reply Replies: 1 || 2013-04-02 15:32:05
Great work ,Mr.Balfe. But what happened with Jesper Kyd? And will you do the score for AC4 too?


Anonymous2013-04-02 18:00:33
he can't hear you

Bryan reply Replies: 0 || 2013-03-17 11:52:26
track list of
Assassin's Creed III The Tyranny of King Wahsington by lorne balfe
01. Assassin's Creed III Main Theme (Wall of Sound Remix)
02. Ratonhnhaké ton (Ratonhnhaké:ton)
03. The Tyrant
04. Frozen
05. Solitude
06. Frontier At Arms
07. Winter's Grasp
08. You Must Succeed
09. Seekers
10. Tracking The Prey
11. Against All Odds
12. He Is Our Beacon
13. The Betrayal
14. Swift And Silent
15. Rooftop Chase
16. Dark Alleys
17. The Key
18. Escape Artist
19. Closed City
20. Helpless
21. The Ruse
22. Nightmares
23. The Redemption
24. Fallen Warriors
25. Wolf In Sheep's Clothing
26. Taking Up Arms
27. The True Rulers
28. Risking Everything
29. Alone Against All
30. Unwavering Resolve
31. Laying Up The Trap
32. The Will To Endure
33. King Washington
34. Ghost Trail
35. Duel At Dawn
36. Man With The Wolf Hood
37. The Betrayal (Alternate Version)
38. The Redemption (Alternate Version)
39. King Washington (Alternate Version)
40. King Washington (Revisited Version)

Radik reply Replies: 4 || 2013-03-05 21:23:17
Will Lorne scoring Assassin's Creed 4 too? :)


T-Mann0362013-03-06 04:34:45
I have a gut feeling that Lorne will be composing Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag.


DIMITRIS KROMMIDAS2013-03-06 14:14:33
That would be great!!! I wish for Hans Zimmer and Lorne Balfe!!


cody2013-03-07 00:21:20
They should bring back Jesper Kyd :(


T-Mann0362013-03-08 09:10:56
Too bad that Jesper have turned it down and not compose any music from the AC franchise.

DIMITRIS KROMMIDAS reply Replies: 3 || 2013-03-05 17:16:39
UBISOFT ANNOUCENT ASSASSINS CREED:IV:BLACK FLAG AND ITS IN THE PIRATE ERA!!! I WISH HANS ZIMMER TO SCORE IT!!!! THE ASSASSINS CREED 3 SCORE WAS EPIC!!! GREETINGS FROM GREECE MR ZIMMER!!! WE LOVE YOU AND YOUR STUDENTS!!!!WE WAIT FOR MAN OF STEEL AND THE LONE RANGER...I AM VERY HAPPY THAT HANS ZIMMER WILL SCORE THE LONE RANGER!!! ITS GOING TO BE EPIC AND ANOTHER MASTERPIECE LIKE ALL HIS SCORES!!!


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-05 18:27:13
We've found him! The archetypal fanboy!! OH MY SQUEEEING GOODNESS!!!!!!!!!!


Mike2013-03-05 19:17:44
While I couldn't suppress a smile, that was uncalled for, Edmund. lol.


Edmund Meinerts2013-03-05 20:49:56
ALL CAPS and overuse of the word "epic"? Um, it was totally called for and you know it. ;)

Radik reply Replies: 0 || 2012-11-25 22:09:32
After complete the game I must say.. GREAT SCORE.. perfect conclusion to the AC.. my favorite track is What Came Before.. is so beautiful :)

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2012-11-09 02:03:07
FYI Lorne Balfe posted a new track on his website, "Connor's Story"

Tim reply Replies: 0 || 2012-11-04 20:29:20
I bought the album yesterday! it's totally worth it...on Amazon :PPP Anyway, I love the main theme and the fact that Lorne reprises "Labored and Lost" as a theme for the forerunners. Good job Mr Balfe :)

P.S.: As all as I heard Jesper Kyd left the series himself. He wasn't kicked off by Lorne as one or two fellows might think. Jesper left the Hitman-franchise as well. And I think Lorne is great replacement:) that's for you grumpy users ;)

Bar reply Replies: 0 || 2012-11-01 18:25:53
Well,

after listening to the entire album i must say the revelations one is much better,especially the main theme.

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2012-11-01 12:45:40
I know it's a stretch to ask right now since the game just came out, but at some point would someone mind attempting to put this in chronological order? I'm doing this as I'm playing the game, but I'm MAYBE 1/5 of the way through...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2012-10-31 23:28:00
Lorne told me they wrote nearly 4 hours for the game.

He'll put unreleased cues on his site very soon.


Macejko2012-11-01 10:04:43
That's good news, I'd like to hear some ambient music too.


lolly2012-11-01 11:10:49
i really like how lorne is so open to his fans and is willing to give us more material.

not like hans, promising since 20 years to bring a complete release of the lion kind, but disappeared again...

Macejko reply Replies: 1 || 2012-10-31 18:31:13
Ok, I gave it one more listening. The Main Theme is great, powerfull and epic... but the rest lacks variation and originality and is pretty uninteresting in general.


Radik2012-10-31 21:04:08
So We'll must wait until then game release.. how it works in game itself.. :)

Bondo reply Replies: 4 || 2012-10-30 12:29:02
It's available on Amazon MP3 right now, $8.99 and totally worth it!


Bondo2012-10-30 22:13:39
Listen to "Fight Club" and "Beer With Friends" if you liked Sherlock or Skylanders :D


theeaglesfan0052012-10-31 13:59:18
$9.99 on iTunes in high quality... Amazon is 256kbps mp3 which is $%*& compared to 256kbps m4a


Hybrid Soldier2012-10-31 15:12:03
Studio Masters quality FLAC 24 bits on Qobuz...

*iTunes to the ground*

:P


theeaglesfan0052012-10-31 16:15:55
im in 'Merica

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2012-10-31 05:24:54
Epic!!!!!

Radik reply Replies: 0 || 2012-10-30 20:38:38
and Desmond Destiny too :)

Macejko reply Replies: 2 || 2012-10-30 15:51:02
After the first listening - not as good as I hoped :(


Anonymous2012-10-30 16:46:25
I agree. Expected much more. Revelations was much better. Every track sounds like a generic action track with drum loops, overdone brass synth with some violins playing in the back. With removing the vocals and the choir this score has lost all dramatics and emotion. Shame cause after revelations I expected a blockbuster score...


Radik2012-10-30 20:34:48
Speck of Dust.. remind me Revelations :)

david reply Replies: 2 || 2012-10-21 20:39:08
Check this masterpiece www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwJgNtvjtUo


al bundy2012-10-22 22:39:57
sounds nice


MEOW!2012-10-24 16:16:06
It sounds really cool! I love the album cover too! It's very Epic! I actually found another cool score recently on iTunes called Pantheon by some composer called Zaalen Tallis which is really epic as well! You guys might want to check that out too.

P.S. Bring on Superman already!!! :P


tomPoland reply Replies: 1 || 2012-10-21 09:18:52
Kyd should do it, Balfe doesn't feel Assassins and their Creed


Hybrid Soldier2012-10-21 09:42:55
You always have the wise word, tom ! I don't really get why you keep posting here ! :/

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 7 || 2012-10-20 00:04:07
Can't wait ! :)


Anonymous2012-10-20 00:08:44
Damn. No full official relaase. This seems so short after the 3CDs we got last time :(


Hybrid Soldier2012-10-20 00:15:00
As far as Lorne is concerned, the last one was 75 min for him, including multiplayer stuff...

So that one isn't exactly FAR from that... :)


Anonymous2012-10-20 00:42:41
Oh well better then nothing. For me Lorne is the new Zimmer these days. He has a great sound. Only a few more days of waiting.


Bioscope2012-10-20 05:35:33
I love his take on the ethnic idiom, coupled with some serious dakness, so i can't wait to hear the Native American flavour.


Bondo2012-10-20 12:45:51
From the clips, you can hear Sherlock Holmes in "Fight Club" :D

And it's great that he kept the continuity by re-stating some of the themes from AC:R


Macejko2012-10-20 13:53:49
Bondo: Are there audio clips already?


Hybrid Soldier2012-10-20 14:01:54
Yeah amazon.com (right on the left corner here !) or qobuz.com ! :)

Macejko reply Replies: 0 || 2012-10-20 00:27:01
With this score I hope Lorne will definitely convince me that he has what it takes to make some epic music.

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