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An interesting album arrangement given the 1994 album arranged the tracks into suites and it seems that's not happening here (and we all know how much hans loves his suites). Seems like it's going to hit every major note that the previous Legacy set does and then some.Does this mean that He Lives In You and Mbube are not new recordings, or at least not entirely new recordings?do you have Informations about a limited edition ?<br>(like BR2049, interstellar,...)it's a complete new recording1.      “Circle of Life”/“Nants’ Ingonyama” – Performed by Lindiwe Mkhize; African vocals performed by Lebo M; written and composed by Elton John and Tim Rice; “Nants’ Ingonyama” written by Lebohang Morake and Hans Zimmer; produced by Hans Zimmer; vocals produced by Stephen Lipson<br><br>2.      “Life’s Not Fair” – Hans Zimmer<br><br>3.      “Rafiki’s Fireflies” – Hans Zimmer<br><br>4.      “I Just Can’t Wait to Be King” – Performed by JD McCrary, Shahadi Wright Joseph and John Oliver; written by Elton John and Tim Rice; produced by Pharrell Williams; co-produced by Stephen Lipson<br><br>5.      “Elephant Graveyard” – Hans Zimmer<br><br>6.      “Be Prepared” (2019 Version) – Performed by Chiwetel Ejiofor; written by Elton John and Tim Rice; produced by Hans Zimmer and David Fleming<br><br>7.      “Stampede” – Hans Zimmer<br><br>8.      “Scar Takes the Throne” – Hans Zimmer<br><br>9.      “Hakuna Matata” – Performed by Billy Eichner, Seth Rogen, JD McCrary and Donald Glover; written by Elton John and Tim Rice; produced by Pharrell Williams; co-produced by Stephen Lipson<br><br>10.  “Simba is Alive!” – Hans Zimmer<br><br>11.  “The Lion Sleeps Tonight” – Performed by Billy Eichner and Seth Rogen; written by Luigi Creatore, Hugo Peretti, George David Weiss and Solomon Linda; produced by Pharrell Williams<br><br>12.  “Can You Feel the Love Tonight” – Performed by Beyoncé, Donald Glover, Billy Eichner and Seth Rogen; written by Elton John and Tim Rice; produced by Pharrell Williams; co-produced by Stephen Lipson<br><br>13.  “Reflections of Mufasa” – Hans Zimmer<br><br>14.  TBA<br><br>15.  “Battle for Pride Rock” – Hans Zimmer<br><br>16.  “Remember” – Hans Zimmer<br><br>17.  “Never Too Late” – Performed by Elton John; African vocal and choir arrangements created and produced by Lebo M; written by Elton John and Tim Rice; produced by Greg Kurstin; additional production by Elton John and Matt Still<br><br>18.  “He Lives in You” – Performed by Lebo M; written by Mark Mancina, Jay Rifkin and Lebohang Morake; produced by Lebo M and Mark Mancina<br><br>19.  “Mbube” – Performed by Lebo M; African vocal and choir arrangements created and produced by Lebo M; written by Solomon Linda; produced by Pharrell Williams
The movie is like 30 minutes longer than the original so I don't think it can be the same all the way through.Hybrid did Hans do everything the same? or is there any difference in this score? Yes or no :DProbably not.Hybrid, I counted only 9 tracks from Zimmer. Is this the complete score or will there be a separate album with more music?Incredible work !, I admire you Hans Zimmer !.<br>Jaime Altozano (Youtuber music), he had a talk with you, and talked about interstellar music. I meet you more, thanks to his videos :)
The most colorful score by Ramin! I dig it!This is not a best soundtrack of Hans, but the theme "Gap" and the first two minutes for me are very good, no good....excellent.no :(Michael, that's my impression with some Zimmer scores: he composes a suite with the themes, hands the rest to his collaborators and supervise the work. But at the end the cue sheets will give us the information.Lorne did the great majority of the onscreen cues. Hans spent most of his time on this score writing the Moriarty Suite (which is longer than on album and has a few versions).
Is it possible to get full credit list for this score? I'll love to know which tracks Lorne worked in.Why soundtrack albums are made? Because most of the times a well edited album is a much better listening experience than the music as heard in the film, complete and chronological. At least  9 out of 10 cases I prefer to listen a well edited album. There are very few cases when a complete album is needed, in my opinion. The other thing is: I only have about 40-60 minutes patience for an album listen.<br>In Hans' case it's different sometimes because I really enjoy his suites and experiments.@iamtommie44<br><br>may i compare with mainstream music for a minute here. albums are important because putting one together is an art form on its own. the best albums are often not the ones with only the good tracks. but of course there are also those you buy because of track #2 or #3<br><br>in hiphop for example, mixtapes are a big thing. they seem like a freer album form. a way for artists to test new ideas and project directions. based on the response, those ideas would show up in albums. it's a nice way of testing things (or us lol) since our taste, especially in music, changes often. sometimes these artists want to see what works and what doesn't. i wouldn't mind buying experimental stuff from my favorite composers to be honest.<br><br>but anyways, dundirk is a very good album if you ask me. it's one of those that i can listen to in a loop and not get tired of. the tracks carry you along the journey. and by the time you reach the end of the last track, it loops right back into the first one...I have higher hopes for that than his normal work, he seems to do better work when not scoring big blockbuster action. (see The Mountain Between Us, one of his best scores)Such an incredible theme! Thank you Hans. When will it be available to buy?
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Hans ZimmerLorne BalfeAndrew KawczynskiTom Holkenborg (Junkie XL)
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional ArrangementsAdditional Arrangements
The Dark Knight Rises (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 237'18
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  1. Logo (1:21)
  2. Prologue (5:13)
  3. Harvey Dent Day - The Truth About Harvey Dent (2:51)
  4. Room Service (0:16)
  5. Uncrackable Safe (2:09)
  6. He Was The Batman (1:01)
  7. Nothing Out There For Me (3:08)
  8. Is He Coming Back? - Bar Shootout (5:36)
  9. Gordon Underground (2:22)
  10. Blake Visits Wayne Manor (3:06)
  11. Hospital Visit - Bruce Follows Selina (2:23)
  12. For Old Times' Sake - Applied Sciences (3:22)
  13. Risen From Darkness (1:45)
  14. Stock Exchange (5:04)
  15. Batman Chased (4:28)
  16. Selina Finds Daggett (2:18)
  17. Rooftop Fight - Back To Batcave (4:07)
  18. Handing Over The Reactor (3:36)
  19. Do You Feel In Charge? (1:23)
  20. Batman Could Be Anybody - Selina Apartment (1:48)
  21. Miranda Visits Wayne - Take Me To Bane (4:16)
  22. The Shadows Betray You (1:59)
  23. Airport Detainee (1:32)
  24. No True Despair Without Hope (2:38)
  25. Board Members Taken Hostage (1:19)
  26. A Child Born In This Hell (1:32)
  27. Cops Into Sewers - Core Separated (4:35)
  28. Instrument Of Your Liberation (7:08)
  29. Gotham Is Yours (4:46)
  30. Born In Darkness (2:08)
  31. This Is Bane's Prison (1:08)
  32. Many Forms Of Immortality (1:34)
  33. There's A Storm Going On (1:57)
  34. Not Meant To Die Here (1:39)
  35. No Ordinary Child (0:58)
  36. Special Forces Arrive (3:12)
  37. Somone Sold Us Out (2:33)
  38. Without A Rope (2:10)
  39. Death Or Exile? - Gordon To Foley (3:50)
  40. Get Me To Fox - Gordon Arrested (2:04)
  41. Death By Exile - Bagged Bruce Wayne (2:02)
  42. Remember Where You Parked It? (1:03)
  43. On Thin Ice - Batman Returns (3:44)
  44. Come With Me (2:02)
  45. All Out War (5:09)
  46. Not An Ordinary Citizen - The Slow Knife (4;47)
  47. Imagine The Fire (1:45)
  48. Chasing The Convoy East (3:31)
  49. A Hero Can Be Anyone (2:35)
  50. Sacrifice (1:31)
  51. It Was The Batman (5:12)
  52. No Stone Unturned (1:25)
  53. Fernet-Branca (0:31)
  54. End Credits (3:16)
  55. The End (6:12)
  56. Trailer Music (2:45)
  57. Moody Bruce New Hero Suite (22:00)
  58. Bane Suite (23:10)
  59. Cat Suite (15:39)
  60. Moody Bruce New Transfiguration Suite (8:38)
  61. A Dark Knight Suite (4:51)
  62. Bane Action 103 BPM Mezzo Suite (5:20)
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Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-27 23:46:01
There's this little chime effect Hans used in the Wayne Manor suite at 19:00 as the traditional Batman ostinato starts to build... Idk why, but that little chime ringing adds a lot to the track for me.

I wish they had used the last 3 minutes of Wayne Manor at the end of TDKR, instead of rehashing the end music from TDK. You can tell Hans was trying to encapsulate TDKR's story in the Wayne Manor suite, but a lot of those ideas got replaced with tracked music in the film.

Anton reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-25 04:42:02
Happy Birthday Mr Lorne Balfe

Qu Zech reply Replies: 5 || 2019-02-21 23:26:51
I noticed that this score doesn't has the soundtrack of the part where Blake is taking the people to the bridge and he is discusing with the other police officer before he blows the bridge


Mike2019-02-21 23:42:21
Yeah, that cue was either a last minute rewrite or one of the music editors did it.... As for where you can find it...Google is your friend. But it's not going to be available anywhere officially.


Dunkirk2019-02-23 09:42:03
Its Imagine the Fire insert


SD2019-02-25 02:14:35
is that the official name? I can't find it.


Anonymous2019-02-25 02:33:07
No hes saying its an insert of Imagine the Fire


Mike2019-02-25 03:06:35
Imagine the Fire isn't the only cue to have an insert... The film version of A Hero Can Be Anyone has an insert of Mugging Part 1 from Batman Begins (when Batman mentions Gordon and the coat).

Qu Zech reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-21 23:31:01
I think it will be in between NOT ORDINARY CITIZEN / THE SLOW KNIFE and IMAGINE THE FIRE, Does anybody know where can I find it?

Qu Zech reply Replies: 2 || 2019-02-21 11:05:39
Where can I listen to the Cat Suite? Or is it literally: Selina Kyle Theme?


Bill Koufo2019-02-21 11:58:59
These versions suites haven't been officially released, but maybe you can find them somewhere around the Internet unofficially.

As for the Cat Suite, the most important parts of it can be found in "Selina Kyle" (it's a shortened version of it actually) and "Mind if I cut in?" from the OST. I remember that Hybrid once said that the 15mins Cat Suite was too repetitive, that's why a 5min only version was released, so maybe you are just fine with those two.


Mike2019-02-21 22:56:47
I wanna say I heard the full Cat Suite somewhere... I can't remember if it was legit, but it was 15:39 and it was indeed quite repetitive. It was basically the Selina Kyle Suite from the Z+ app, along with demos of several of the Catwoman-related cues in the final score. If you've listened through the score, you've basically heard the unreleased stuff.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2018-11-20 06:20:14
Anyone know what the story behind the Nokia trailer music is? Did Hans (or at least someone on Hans' team) write it? It starts out with the Bane theme, like "Gotham's Reckoning," then almost sounds like the Bane theme got mixed with Time from Inception.

Hans said he and co. did Trailer 3, but he's never commented on the Nokia one.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-14 21:05:08
The reprise of "Batman on Fire" from Begins (1:59-2:30 in the Transfiguration suite) is good stuff! I wonder why Hans decided to reuse that particular idea.

Luke Abraham reply Replies: 0 || 2018-07-04 10:08:56
Does anyone know where I could find the Moody Bruce New Hero Suite online??? It's truly amazing and I can't seem to find a version in the right key anywhere.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 0 || 2018-06-17 00:00:30
Is it just me or does the “Catwoman” riff (not the main theme) in “Bar Shootout” and “Nothing Out There” sound very much like the main Scarface theme?

I’ve also noticed that Hans sometimes will write a main tune and a series of riffs for a character, but will mainly incorporate the smaller motifs in the film (Angelica’s music from OST, Megamind’s main tune, Catwoman, etc.) Definitely not a problem though, I like the variety.

Look at the evolution of Batman’s theme from Begins, where he had the 2-note motif and the actual theme, to here where it’s just the 2 notes and the chord theme. I wonder if that was Chris Nolan’s decision.

anonymous guy reply Replies: 0 || 2018-03-26 02:16:33
out of curiosity did Hans do any cues solo here?

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 2 || 2018-02-12 03:27:46
So I don't know why I wasted time doing this, but I was surprised to realize that the main two-note Batman theme is used a lot more in this score than it is in The Dark Knight. It feels like it's used less often because it isn't used very much along with the string ostinato, which is what helped it become noticeable BB and TDK, but it actually pops up very frequently.

The two note theme is used in 22 Batman Begins cues, 13 Dark Knight cues, and 22 Dark Knight Rises cues. And yeah...it's kinda sad I know that now.


superultramegaa2018-02-12 03:44:34
First, wow that's awesome that they're used the exact same amount of times in BB and TDKR, but second of all, yeah I never picked that up either until I saw a behind the scenes video of Hans showing Nolan "Blake Visits Wayne Manor," where he said how the theme is more delicate and higher pitched because he's wounded, and the theme needs to rebuild itself just like Wayne does.

It's not until Bruce escapes the prison do we get a big, epic statement of the two-note theme, and not until he returns do we get the grandest statement of it. Looking through this score again, it's probably the best in terms of the way it tells the story with the music, but I still think Batman Begins is a more emotional, and depthful score, especially with James Newton Howard's influence.


Mike (OTM)2018-02-12 04:01:29
"Looking through this score again, it's probably the best in terms of the way it tells the story with the music, but I still think Batman Begins is a more emotional, and depthful score, especially with James Newton Howard's influence."

Yeah, I agree. This score has a lot of new ideas that help tie things off and the progression from beginning to end is clear. You can tell that just by listening through the score. My favorite of these scores has always been Batman Begins (I love the dark and ambient nature of the whole thing), but my favorite when taken together with the film is The Dark Knight. Something about TDK just managed to be very "polished," and the score is no exception.

I definitely missed James Newton Howard in TDKR. His decreased presence was already noticeable in TDK. I wish he had come back for this one, but hey. We can't fix that now. Hans and co. closed things off competently in TDKR, but for me, the main stuff I listen to in TDKR is the suites. The two Moody Bruce suites and the Bane suite are really fantastic, but I don't think the in-film score is as impressive as Hans' initial suite ideas.

Suites reply Replies: 3 || 2017-12-23 15:54:14
Zimmer fans ,
can someone list the suites composed by Hans that pretty much sum up the entire score( official & bootleg)??
I got some :
1) Moody Bruce New Hero Suite
2) A Dark Knight
3) Man of steel ( Han’s sketch book)
4) The Last Samurai
Anything else?


Max Potcats2017-12-23 17:38:12
More or less a sum of the score :

-160 BPM
-Nuke Disarmed (End Credits)
-Marry Me
-Blade Runner
-Dies Mercurii i Martius
-Time
-Jack Sparrow
...


Suites2017-12-23 18:37:29
@ Max Podcasts : the suites I have listed is almost 20 min or more worth of cues. I am curious in similar ones for other movies.


James (now Callahan)2017-12-24 11:40:01
Carmelengo (Angels and Demons)
A Dark Knight, Harvey Dent (by JNH) Like a Dog Chasing Cars and Why so Serious?(TDK)
Man of Steel Sketchbook (Mos)
Moriarty (SH:Game of Shadows)
Rango Suite (Rango)
Absurdity (The Lone Ranger)
Singapore (At World's End)
Lord Beckett or This is Just a good business / with Balfe (At World's End)
Men are still good with JXL and AK(BvS)

And more...

Peter reply Replies: 0 || 2017-11-03 15:33:22
Who exactly composed the songs, I ask about these partners Hans?

David reply Replies: 3 || 2017-11-02 16:41:35
Hybrid Soldier do you know which tracks use James Newton Howard's music from the previous two? I would love to know! Can't tell since there isn't any composer info :(


badbu2017-11-02 16:46:40
HZ -> Action Part
JNH -> The emotional Part

;-)


Mike (OTM)2017-11-02 18:50:22
Well with the exception of maybe "Nothing Out There For Me," there's not much James Newton Howard here. None of the themes that he obviously worked on are in here.


superultramegaa2017-11-02 21:45:50
Howard did a lot less of the emotional tracks than you might think. I'm fairly certain Mugging is all Zimmer, and Howard isn't credited for Courthouse, so that was probably Zimmer too. However, Howard definitely did Father to the Rescue, Dirty Cash/Prototypes, Campfire, Bruce Comes Home and all reprises of that. At least, these are my best guesses. So to answer your question, I think the background for the beginning of Nothing Out There was Howard's work.

Iamtommie reply Replies: 3 || 2017-04-20 21:48:46
It's maybe a weird question, byt what says the chant in the Bane suite/theme???


Mike2017-04-21 18:52:51
I think Hans said he just got several guys in his studio once and they recorded a bunch of different versions of it.


Bill Koufo2017-04-22 13:19:17
The chant says "Deshey Deshey Basharah Basharah", which means "Rise up!".


Saizou2017-04-27 13:43:58
It's some kind of arabic, I can verify that theory myself. It's Deshi Basar'a, Go Quickly! or Rise Quickly!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-01 02:54:41
all suites here are HZ right?

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2016-12-28 02:40:58
In My Opinion, Moody Bruce is the Best song in the Soundtrack!


Mike2016-12-28 18:37:59
Yep, it seems to be the primary talked-about thing here. I hope La La Land gives this score a better release one day. It's not the best of the trilogy, but it has the best suites, and the whole score has a much better and more sensible musical narrative than what we got on the CD.

Anonymous reply Replies: 4 || 2016-06-19 20:00:40
Have any more credits shown up for this besides the ones Hybrid posted a few years ago?


Hybrid Soldier2016-06-19 20:04:32
No the cuesheet for that film is empty (I mean, HZ only).


You won't get more than what I posted... :P


Anonymous2016-06-19 20:09:39
Oh okay.. :P It looks like a couple of them changed though... like, below, you said "Without a Rope" was HZ and Balfe, but now it's on Mazzaro's page? Any other changes?


anon22016-09-17 22:43:50
Hybrid, how do you figure out credits with empty cue sheets? Do you ask the individual people what they did or is the info somehow made available elsewhere? or is it a big secret that you can't tell anybody?


Mike2016-12-14 17:08:02
Well, we can add Andrew Kawcynski to the Hospital Visit and Death or Exile cues now, thanks to this soundcloud. :P

homayoun reply Replies: 0 || 2016-10-12 16:56:33
in my opinion Mr Hans Zimmer is one of the best musicians & composers in the world an is the second Beethoven

anonymous reply Replies: 2 || 2016-06-28 22:07:50
anyone notice how this score seemed to undergo a lot more post-cue editing compared to the other two films?

--"batman chased" is almost completely replaced with (better) temp cues and its midsection is changed a lot
--"rooftop fight" is significantly edited in the film (the version here isn't even complete!)
--"imagine the fire" and "chasing the convoy east" sound totally different in the film, with a heavily edited insert between them...
--"fernet branca" is replaced with the (better) TDK version

on the whole the TDKR complete score just doesn't sound as "together" as BB and TDK to me


anonymous2016-06-28 22:10:31
oh, and there's also the "mugging part 2" insert replacing "a hero can be anyone", along with an insert from "the ferries" (TDK) between "batman returns - on thin ice" and "come with me"


Mike2016-06-28 22:18:29
I've noticed this as well. I imagine it comes down to editing Chris Nolan had to do to the film itself. Especially with the various inserts that don't show up on the cue sheet, I would guess that Hans and co. had written the "complete" score and the inserts were used to easily accommodate later edits made to the film itself by Nolan.

I would guess also that, comparing the other two movies to this one, Hans, James, and co. did the cues but then didn't have to put up with too many edits to the picture. Thus, the complete scores for those more closely resemble what the movies have. There was some editing in Begins, though. Batmobile Chase is significantly different in the movie, while Backup and Batman Arrives were both made to be more "beefy" in the film.

(And just since we're on the topic... I would still would love an official release of the Batman Chased film edit - that's higher on my list than No Time for Caution, lol).

0-^-0 reply Replies: 4 || 2016-06-06 19:45:31
Forgive a slight dose of fanboy-ism, but I had "Moody Bruce New Hero" Suite on earlier and boy has this got some of the best notes written for Batman. IMHO at least. That this particular suite missed its well-deserved place in just about every commercial album made for this "Rises" is beyond me. One part that almost universally blows me away in this cue is the bit starting around 8:47 - 9:05. Dramatic and heroic. Every time these two keywords come into the spotlight and become the center of attention, Hans' style of composition truly shines.


Mike2016-06-06 21:21:52
Oh, that suite is fantastic. It makes me mad they didn't release all of it (outside the underwhelming app). It's truly a highlight of all the music written for these movies. And come on. The TDK album got "A Dark Knight," so why couldn't TDKR have gotten this? TDKR as an album is one of my least favorite HZ albums. Doesn't do justice to the score at all.


Anonymous2016-06-06 21:25:36
yeah zimmer releases truly got better after man of steel... now, 2-disc releases are de rigueur for blockbluster movies like this.... such a thing would have been unthinkable from the man back when tdkr came out though... if only water tower or some label would make an improved release of this one (and begins!!!).


isildur2016-06-07 09:35:26
I think you'll find many fans of "Moody Bruce" suite here. It is the best arranged track out of the entire Rises score after all.


Edmund Meinerts2016-06-07 16:45:09
Yeah I agree. In fact that track pretty much contains all the music I ever need to listen to from Rises - it even has the best use of the Bane chant in it.

thejok3rrules reply Replies: 17 || 2012-12-07 01:22:05
Hybrid Soldier, would you have the complete credits for this one? Even partial credits like you did on POTC 3 would be awesome! :D


Mike2012-12-07 01:47:55
Agreed.


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-07 13:17:32
Here's what I know =>

Logo => Mel Wesson
Room Service => Jasha Klebe
Uncrackable Sage => HZ/LB/Klebe
He Was The Batman => HZ/LB
Nothing Out There For Me => HZ/LB
Is He Coming Back? - Bar Shootout => HZ/LB/Steve Mazzaro
Blake Visits Wayne Manor => HZ/Klebe
Hospital Visit - Bruce Follows Selina => HZ/LB
For Old Time's Sake - Applied Sciences => HZ/LB
Risen From Darkness => HZ/LB
Batman Chased => HZ/LB
Selina Finds Dagget => HZ/LB
Rooftop Fight - Back To Batcave => HZ/LB
Handing Over The Reactor => HZ/LB
Batman Could Be Anybody - Selina Apartment => HZ/LB
Miranda Visits Wayne - Take Me To Bane => HZ/LB
Airport Detainee => HZ/Mazzaro
Instrument Of Your Liberation => HZ/Andrew Kawczynski
Special Forces Arrive => HZ/Kawczynski
Without A Rope => HZ/LB
Death Or Exile? - Gordon To Foley => HZ/LB
Get Me To Fox - Gordon Arrested => HZ/LB
Death By Exile - Bagged Bruce Wayne => HZ/LB
Remember Where You Parked It? => HZ/LB
Come With Me => HZ/LB
Sacrifice => HZ/LB
Fernet-Branca => HZ/LB


Edmund Meinerts2012-12-07 17:16:00
Fan-freaking-tastic, Hybrid! As someone who likes to know exactly who did what, you have no idea how nice it is to have someone like you who's "on the inside" about these kinds of things. Much appreciated!


Mike2012-12-07 18:04:58
Wow! Why isn't this score credited to "Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe"?


thejok3rrules2012-12-07 18:58:21
Thank you, Hybrid Soldier! :D I don't want to ask too much, but could you do the same with Batman Begins' expanded score and The Dark Knight's complete too?


Mike2012-12-07 19:25:25
Haha that WOULD be pretty awesome, but no pressure.


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-07 19:38:57
As I already stated it's quite impossible for Begins. Apart from obvious things sounding HZ and other sounding JNH, it's really a co-score, with HZ using JNH & JNH using HZ. I have no clue about Ramin's work, just that he helped a lot. Lorne arranged a few things, the known one is "Backup", and Mel for the more "ambient" cues... :)

TDKR was more a "split" work so it's easier (even though composers did rework cues from Begins, so it remains fuzzy). But I'll tell what I know from TDK.


Mike2012-12-07 19:59:19
I actually have a question about Backup, since the beginning is used for the end credits to these movies. I'm ignorant of music processes, so when you say LB "arranged" the cue, do you mean he "composed" it or just sort of put it together like that? And if he composed it, I assume that means that whenever the credits start rolling we're hearing Lorne Balfe?


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-07 20:24:56
Lorne was a music programmer on Begins, while Ramin "wrote" additional music.

So basically Lorne was working on pre-existing cues, and added various layers (percs, strings etc.). So you're hearing... well, Hans & Lorne ! ;)


Anonymous2013-06-18 01:10:54
Hybrid do you know if HZ did ANY of the TDKR cues himself?


Mike2013-08-17 04:52:16
If I had to guess I would say Hans did the "Prologue" and "Slow Knife" cues alone. Not entirely sure why, but they just strike me as Zimmer cues. Also, the first part of Batman Chased, the film version, is temp music from the previous two movies--temp music which, I imagine, Zimmer applied to the scene before having Lorne arrange the actual cue. So you could probably say Zimmer did that himself also...


Anonymous2013-08-17 04:55:18
"Gotham is Yours" sounds like a HZ cue to me


MacArthur 2013-08-18 04:22:53
Its probably not credited to Balfe because he might have just arranged it


MacArthur2013-08-18 04:27:04
It just seems to me that all of this was Composed by Zimmer but put together and Arranged by Balfe. So to answer your question Zimmer did do it it was just Balfe who put it together.


Anonymous2014-02-03 22:29:21
any idea about cues you didn't list hybrid or no?


Mike2014-02-03 22:33:42
Wouldn't he have put them if he knew...? :P I imagine the Prologue and Slow Knife cues are Zimmer alone, and since It Was the Batman and No Stone Unturned are just suites temped in, I imagine those are Zimmer alone also. I also wouldn't be surprised if Born in Darkness were Zimmer alone. Seeing as Lorne did the End Credits cue in TDK, I'd be willing to assume he did it here, too.


Anonymous2016-03-11 17:19:08
Hybrid i'm not REALLY expecting to get an answer to this but :P ... where do you get your credits from? do you have access to hans' cuesheets or what exactly?

Anonymous reply Replies: 4 || 2016-03-10 23:16:47
Am I the only one that gets ticked off every time I have to listen to the Origins Suites in the crappy radio quality that we got them in from the Z app? I just hate that these masterpieces were released in terrible quality! Does anyone know if they're out there in better quality? Maybe I missed, but have these ever been released in better quality?


Mike2016-03-11 16:35:18
No, you're not. It boggles my mind the way this score was released, honestly. 2011-2012 was a bad time for HZ albums, and this brings back memories of that. The suites - especially Wayne Manor, Bane, and the completely-unreleased transfiguration suite - are the real highlights of this score, yet they were released in an app? Where's the logic?

Then the CD is 50 minutes of cues of lesser importance in the overall score, with the exception of a few like "Gotham's Reckoning" (prologue) and "Rise." Then there was the whole issue of "bonus tracks": get "No Stone Unturned" and "Risen From Darkness" with the physical CD, but... oh, the latter track wasn't remotely like the much better film mix. Then you could get another track buying tickets early! *Sigh*

Say what you want about HZ albums these days missing important cues ("Escape From Ship," "Rest of My Life" film version, "No Time For Caution" film version), but things are a heck of a lot better now than they were when TDKR came out. Now, 2-disc releases seem to be a standard for blockbuster scores, and Batman v. Superman is continuing that trend.


Anonymous2016-03-11 16:54:26
i'd love to see a 2-disc release setup like this:

CD 1 (approx: 68 min):

1. Logo / Prologue (full)
2. Harvey Dent Day / Uncrackable Safe
3. Nothing Out There For Me
4. Bar Shootout
5. Blake Visits Wayne Manor / Hospital Visit
6. For Old Times' Sake
7. Stock Exchange
8. Batman Chased (film version)
9. Rooftop Fight
10. Take Me To Bane
11. A Child Born in This Hell
12. Instrument of Your Liberation
13. Gotham Is Yours
14. Born in Darkness / Many Forms of Immortality
15. Not Meant to Die Here / Someone Sold Us Out
16. Without a Rope

CD 2 (approx: 30 min of cues, 40 min of suites):

1. Death or Exile? / Gordon Arrested
2. Remember Where You Parked It? / Batman Returns
3. All Out War
4. The Slow Knife (full version)
5. Imagine the Fire (film version) / Chasing the Convoy
6. Rise (film version)
7. Wayne Manor / Moody Bruce Hero Suite
8. Bane Suite (maybe shortened)
9. Selina Kyle Suite
10. Moody Bruce Transfiguration Suite

And this would certainly be possible... MoS had about an hour on its first disc, with another hour on its second, 50-some minutes of disc 2 being suites! Come on, Watertower! :P


Anonymous2016-03-11 16:55:22
50* min of suites on disc 2


Mike2016-03-11 17:04:13
It's certainly possible. TDK in this very series got a 2-disc release, and I never have felt like I have been missing "essential cues" when listening to that version. But I would add a shortened version of the "End Credits" to the above list as well. The credits music that finishes these movies is essential to appreciating the three scores properly IMO. Sadly only TDK has the credits on its official release.

Sam reply Replies: 0 || 2016-03-01 15:24:44
Magnificent!!! PLEASE, let us buy and download these tracks...

Alex reply Replies: 0 || 2016-02-01 21:52:16
Amazing! I´ve been looking all over for this version of TDKR. But how can I download it?! Thank you so much!

Evan reply Replies: 0 || 2015-10-29 15:53:26
I'm so thankful I was able to get my hands on this version of the soundtrack. Thel retail OST left out so much good material even with the bonus tracks. I'm only gripe is all the filler tracks on the last disk. I would recommend buying the retail version as well though. Some of the tracks on the original soundtrack are much better, such as "No Stone Unturned", its far superior version of "A Hero Can Be Anyone" since it leaves out all the temp music from TDK and features a cool version of Batman's theme that first popped up in the track "Training" in Begins. Does anyone know why Hans sort of phased out Batman's main theme from "Molossus"?


bob K jones reply Replies: 1 || 2015-10-19 22:08:40
batman chased is the best but i cant find it one itunes


Anonymous2015-10-19 23:32:40
"risen from darkness" but it's not the film version

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 0 || 2015-10-05 16:22:16
Hey Hybrid,
Do you know if the film version of "Imagine The Fire" was an edit of existing tracks or a complete re-recording?

It's a cool mix between some Dark Knight cues and the album version of Imagine the Fire.

Anonymous reply Replies: 6 || 2013-09-03 17:37:53
Hybrid, unless you know something we don't, which is quite possible, the TDKR booklet lists JunkieXL with "additional music" and not simply additional arrangements....All the other crediting is as given here.


Hybrid Soldier2013-09-03 17:42:57
Mainly for the remix...

And Ramin gets additional arrangements but didn't work on that score... ;)

It was just a big thank for a Begins cue... ;)


Bioscope2013-09-03 20:27:25
I think it's for the reuse of "Train Fight" as "Chasing the Convoy East", just with Bane colours and motifs mixed in.


Mike2013-09-04 17:37:15
Bioscope, what are you referring to? You think "it's" for the re-use of Train Fight....Do you mean JunkieXL's crediting or Ramin Djawadi's?

And how in the world would making a remix merit someone the credit of "additional music"? It wasn't even used in the movie (thank God--can you imagine if that remix started playing? xD) It'd be like that video, "I'm Bane, yes, that's my name...").


Bioscope2013-09-04 19:31:25
I was referring to the Ramin credit, but this is speculation on my part.


Anonymous2015-04-25 22:02:39
"Big thanks for a Begins cue."

Was the cue "Training", and Hans was thanking Ramin for inspiring "A Dark Knight"?


Zach2015-04-29 12:37:18
The "thanks for Begins cue." could actually be the theme that plays in Begins where we first meet Bruce after he wakes from a nightmare and then we seem him walking through the prison.

That same theme is played when Selina first meets Bruce in DKR. (which is the first time we, the audience, see him)

Training/second part of Eptesicus seems to build off that theme as well as the parts in Rise and A Dark Knight.

Ramin Djawadi is credited in some way for Training...wonder if he initially wrote it and Hans expanded on it or if it's mostly Hans' stuff, who knows!

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