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www.tmz. com/2015/01/23/12-years-a-slave-soundtrack-lawsuit-stole-mus ic-hans-zimmer/ what do you guys think of this? Just listened to both clips provided in the article and there a very little similarities in my opinionClemmensen has given nearly all of Hans' really great past scores (such as Gladiator, Crimson Tide, The Last Samurai, King Arthur, The Peacemaker, Angels and Demons, and even the lessor known ones like Invincible, The House of Spirits, Cool Runnings, etc. etc.) at least four stars and some five. How can you say he hates HZ? <br><br>I don't think he is being purposefully unfair towards Hans, he, just like myself and a couple others on this board just didn't really care for Interstellar and also for some of his more recent experimental ambient scores.  I think Clemmensen really summed up the issue with Interstellar when he wrote "[Interstellar] is a "...predictably ambient series of repetitive crescendos".  My sentiments exactly.  Why does a person have to be trashed because they have a different opinion?<br><br>Now I'm sure all the "we-love-everything-Hans-Zimmer-ever-did-and-you-better-agre e-with-us" fanatics are going to attack me, so go ahead get it over with.wait what, people still read reviews? I thought those days were long gone, you can just listen to everything on youtube and decide whether its worth the money or not....that is great news, hybrid, who is in the The Bleeding Fingers Custom Music Shop, is rcp composers and others or just rcpI'll give my opinion on this issue once because that's all it deserves really. Personally, I don't mind negative film reviews for some of my favorite scores as long as the film reviewers seriously review the material and state why he or she did not like it. It is their opinion and I respect it. However, in the case of CC, he once again demonstrates his extreme ill-will towards Hans, and it has gotten out of hand. I read the review for Interstellar, and I can honestly saw that only two of the eight paragraphs there focus mainly on the music in the album(s)/movie. Most of the review focuses on Clemmensen's thoughts on Hans, how Hans scored Interstellar, Hans' fans, etc. Music reviews are to review the music, not the composer, his scoring method, or his fans. Sadly, the review never truly analyzes the music track-by-track, which is the best way to do so. Review the music, not the composer. And to take away a star for the album situation-- just stupid. The music on every album was fine, so just because there are three albums does not take anything away from the quality of music. There.
Thanks Hybrid. Actually it's so close to the rest of the score that I really thought the ending scene was also Johansson's music.<br><br>Sadly, I guess a lot of voters will make the same mistake and will not vote for Hans...You're right Zimson, Lorne has some involvement in there ! ;)<br><br>And yep, apparently a soundtrack is planned... :)The album situation with this score deserves to take some flak, but to pull an entire star for it? Nah.<br><br>To be honest, I think it's a decent review. CC obviously has huge issues with Zimmer's root methodology of scoring the concept moreso than the film itself that he simply won't ever get over, but that - narrow-minded as it is - is his opinion, which is fair enough. It's a more balanced review than his take on TASM2 was earlier this year, that's for sure.Any ideas on a Piano Solo Sheet Music Book release. Most of Hans' recent work has a piano book released shortly after or around the time of a DVD or Bluray release. Of all the recent scores of Hans' I figured this would be the most deserving or most appropriate for a piano release. You can currently buy 'Cornfield Chase' for Solo Piano. Though the score relies really on the known theme, there are several other tracks that are unique enough to warrant a release. Just curious if anyone else has any thoughts or news.Did Hans do the entire title sequence or did I just hear Lorne's arrangement of it?
Unbelievable...Well, to be fair, he doesn't bash Zimmer's scores only... But yeah 2* for Interstellar is atrocious.wwwwwwwwwwwwwoooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br>nice musicwow!!!!!!!!!!!!<br>this is incridible music.<br>I love this game.wow, that was great, is the ost getting released?
That's pretty cool !! :)Where can we find this alternate, I mean is there a bootleg or something where this "alternate" is included,I honestly could see where he was coming from for a lot of that review. But the final score is unfair in my opinion.(I will say, though, that as much as I really like this score, I appreciate that Clemmensen did address some of its more negative elements, which have been largely ignored by most people. Still, the negatives, while they exist, don't detract heavily from the score for me like they did for him.)Ya know, I really felt sure he'd give it 3. Granted, he did give it 3 "as written for the film", but really, 2 stars overall because of a complicated (and not even poor—all three albums are strong presentations of the score, minus that No Time For Caution issue) album situation seems unfair to me. I do agree that the score's themes don't see much development, and also that it has a tendency to repeat itself a little too much, but IMO, to give this score fewer than 4 stars is an injustice.
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Black Rain (Limited)
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 141'57
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CD1
  1. Sato Pt. 1 - One-Way Glass (6:34)
  2. Osaka - Phony Cops (1:46)
  3. You Gonna Be Nice? - Sato Pt. 2 (5:21)
  4. Sato Watching - Circling Motorbikes (1:59)
  5. Sugai's Photo - Sato Pt. 3 (3:58)
  6. Sato Pt. 4 (2:05)
  7. Charlie Loses His Head (8:22)
  8. Sequins (2:42)
  9. Masa's Reprimand - Sugai Pt. 1 (5:33)
  10. The Steel Mill (2:45)
  11. Steel Mill Chase - Airplane - Escape (6:18)
  12. Sugai Pt. 2 (8:50)
  13. Arrival Of Oyabuns - Sato's Arrival - Meeting (7:55)
  14. Bikes - Fight - Nick And Masa (9:29)
CD2
    ORIGINAL EMI ALBUM
  1. Livin' On The Edge Of The Night - Iggy Pop (3:38)
  2. The Way You Do The Things You Do - UB 40 (3:15)
  3. Back To Life - Soul II Soul (5:07)
  4. Laserman - Ryuichi Sakamoto (4:48)
  5. Singing In The Shower - Les Rita Mitsouko & Sparks (4:22)
  6. I'll Be Holding On - Gregg Allman (5:38)
    BLACK RAIN SUITE
  7. Sato (4:45)
  8. Charlie Loses His Head (7:03)
  9. Sugai (6:55)
  10. Nick And Masa (2:52)
    BONUS TRACKS
  11. Airplane Muzak (Source) - Shirley Walker (2:05)
  12. Charlie Loses His Head Pt. 1 (Alternate Percussion) (2:32)
  13. Charlie Loses His Head Pt. 2 (Alternate With Koto & Oboe) (2:47)
  14. Masa's Reprimand (Alternate) (1:49)
  15. Bikes - Fight (Alternate) (3:18)
  16. Bikes (Percussion Only) (1:35)
  17. Charlie Loses His Head (Monks Wild) (2:12)
  18. I'll Be Holding On (Main Title Version) - Gregg Allman (2:36)
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Frank reply Replies: 0 || 2014-04-08 05:02:43
The last part of "Charlie loses his head" seems to be the source of Dark Knight, it is very similar with the theme from TDKR

MacArthur reply Replies: 1 || 2013-08-27 02:44:24
Love This Soundtrack


Tommy2013-11-20 15:40:35
yeah, me too !! 5/5

kwolf reply Replies: 0 || 2013-01-05 03:09:36
with all the respect in the world for mr zimmer and i think in modern times he is as GOOD as IT WAS the legendary ENNIO MORRICONE do have a question on the soundtrack on BLACK rain..i've searched all his soundtrack who are brilliant but i've missed one..when SUGAI enters the club and before that minute 54 and 15-20-30 seconds what's the name of the song..it;s driving me mad searching for it..i have the original dvd and all sound track on my computer all except that!!

Trent Easton Navarro reply Replies: 0 || 2012-12-27 18:18:23
La La Land has announced that they'll release another Zimmer score next year! Really curious which one it'll be.

Days of Thunder would be very cool. And I'm still hoping for an expanded The Peacemaker.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 9 || 2012-10-01 03:21:37
This is ultimately one of the best film scores Hans have ever composed in 1990. Even for an expanded score with additional music from the late Shirley Walker and recording artists from UB40, Iggy Pop, etc., this is truly a must have and a part of the RCP Collector's library.


Cloud2012-10-01 13:34:31
To me this is one of the best scores he has ever composed, period. It's easily among my top 3 favorites of his. Then again, when I listen to Hans, I listen almost always to his late 80s/90s/early 00s stuff.


Dawn2012-10-02 13:11:20
@Cloud I feel the same. Late 80's, all 90's and early 2000's... what a great era for film music lovers !


Aggelos2012-10-03 11:49:42
You're right folks. Late '80s and '90s contain the most fantastic stuff from the RCP team. From early 2000, it would seem that the decline-twilight of the memorable theme/cues begins....

Sanguinely, LLL and Intrada will bring to light more of them (remember Intrada's White Fang).


Cloud2012-10-03 13:41:15
I included the early 00s solely because of scores like Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, Hannibal, Spirit or The Last Samurai. These are all great. To me, the last big score of that era was King Arthur. After that, things started to change considerably.

That being said, I really hope LLL or someone decides to release Bird on a Wire and Days of Thunder.


Trent Easton Navarro2012-10-03 16:16:15
Yeah, King Arthur was probably Zimmer's last great score.

And I second Bird on Wire and Days of Thunder! But great scores that need to be released officially


Ds2012-10-03 22:52:58
I think you people are forgetting Pirates 2 & 3! Especially the 3rd!


Prott2012-10-03 23:15:57
... and The Da Vinci Code (at least).


Dawn2012-10-04 01:17:40
Yes, Da Vinci Code and Pirates 3, or even Inception were really good in their own right... but they were exceptions in this "new" era.

I don't know if it is film music that changed, or if it was just me, but from 1995 to 2003, I was excited every 3 months with something new. Then it started to decrease.
Yes I liked King Arthur, but it was not half as good as Gladiator or Black Hawk Down were.
Batman Begins, though it is now iconic and an important evolution in film music, still remains for me a little bit uninteresting and weak.

Maybe I started to get older and lost some natural childood enthusiasm ? Or was there a real decline in quality or inspiration ?... don't know.


fabien2012-11-01 18:13:53
some amazing unreleased part of Nick and Masa theme now released !!!!

bongo reply Replies: 2 || 2012-09-30 18:29:22
Just wondering does this release contain more unreleased music than the complete score bootleg release?


Hybrid Soldier2012-09-30 19:37:25
It does. ;)


bongo2012-09-30 22:45:54
Thankee, ordering right now!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 15 || 2012-06-30 20:55:15
Just announced by LLL, to be released later !!! :D


Anonymous2012-06-30 21:07:05
You beat me to it! Wahey!!!


Adrian2012-07-01 01:33:35
A big like, great news :-)


Ravi2012-07-01 06:27:49
Indeed, great news! So cool to see all these awesome HZ scores being released - Broken Arrow, White Fang and now this. Here's hoping that Lion King and Gladiator aren't too far. :-)


Cloud2012-07-01 17:02:01
Oh, boy. LLL saves the day once again. Black Rain has to be the quintessential Zimmer action score and my absolute alltime favorite of his. This is as good as ordered.


Mikel SiW (a fan from Spain)2012-07-02 13:31:32
Another miracle from La-La Land!!


Pawel Stroinski2012-07-30 01:15:23
The score will be probably released this August. Lala already "announced" that it will be their next release.


Aggelos2012-09-17 14:25:34
No August dudes. End of Sep or early October.
It's gonna be the wickedness!!! LLL needs to tackle more Media Ventures stuff! What on earth have they been doin'?.....

I'm losing my composure and patience!


Aggelos2012-09-18 09:16:17
The shit will be out September 25.
If not, then October 9.


Hybrid Soldier2012-09-18 16:44:12
Coming next week, the 25th !!!! :D


Aggelos2012-09-18 17:32:38
You don't say, bro! Count me in! It's about time to get another fine Zimmer release by triple L. Stop your grinning and drop your linen!

I was hoping some signed copies but the out hopes were trashed by "No signed Black Rain copies. Altough the project was produced with the blessing of Mr. Zimmer."


Trent Easton Navarro2012-09-18 20:00:03
Definitely looking forward to this one! One of Zimmer's finest action scores!


Aggelos2012-09-21 14:59:35
Guys, this score was conducted by Shirley. But what exactly did Shirley conduct in this one?
Was she conducting Hans' fingers whilst he performing and sequencing the music on his synthesizer?


Hybrid Soldier2012-09-21 19:23:42
There's an orchestra in that score.

Not a big one, but there is... ;)


Hybrid Soldier2012-09-25 22:23:36
And here we go ! :)


Aggelos2012-09-26 19:06:02
Yes bro! Freaking ordered without second thoughts!!

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