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It *did* sound "Balfey" to me for a long time...but that changed knowing that Hans did at least three cues that I had previously assumed to be Balfe ("Hungry for Lunch," "Jaded" from 2:09-end, and "Passing the Torch"), and realizing (as I mentioned above) that Hans seems to have done most of the "Panda Village" track. So now I hear less Balfe in it. Parts of "The Battle of Legends" and "The Spirit Realm" definitely have his sound in them, but I definitely see this as a Hans score now, which I didn't before.<br>Many thanks isildur. I hope to hear your own cover.<br><br>x marco:<br>hmmm. I'm a bit embarrassed.<br>google translator does not translate well from English, so do not understand the exact meaning of the text.<br>English words I know can be counted on the fingers of one hand. sorry.<br>about the libraries, I took as an example the 'cellos' section but also applies to other instruments.<br>I use different types of small libraries of the same instrument (without resorting to large libraries of last generation that are definitely good, but they are heavy for my pc).<br>the resulting sound as a whole is more 'full bodied' than using a single instrument (in our example: only one instument of cellos section).<br>but this should not, for me, make me lose sight of the overall sound of the song. This 'not lose sight of' it forces me to put some of my originality (perhaps appreciated or maybe not).<br>I hope I have correctly understood your question :)<br><br>it must be remembered, however, that is the musical composition that makes the difference. therefore, the compliments go to Hans Zimmer and staff ;)Wow... Varese Sarabande still suck at artworks. Especially fonts... Ugh...<br><br>I'm fine with Rupert scoring this one, but I have the same question as Ds - why Debney was 'kicked out'?Thanks for SharingI'll definitely take a listen to both of those. I had heard Bee Movie a few years back but it never stuck with me. Maybe it's time to revisit it :-)
Both covers are awesome mate. Kudos!*Even* Your Highness? I love that score! :pmpolonest123, you should check out Bedtime Stories and Bee Movie (the latter admittedly with a bit of behind-the-curtain help from Hans himself). Both are really fun scores, albeit a lot lighter than what this movie calls for. RGW is quite talented, actually, a lot better than what the fairly bland Tarzan would have you believe.even your highness is better then this, the use of electronics adding to the beauty of the tune but too much of it clouds the main orchestra.I think the result is excellent especially if you haven't studied music. Can you please tell me about these cello libraries?<br>I like also small variations despite the cover being really matching the original, small variations with respect to the original (whether intended or result of the arrangment) give a touch of personal interpretation and originality. When it is the result of researching too much the original sound, it is not a good result (I believe I have this flaw in some parts my arrangment) but when it is not, then the result is good. Cannot explain better but in your "Da Vinci", I like that.
He seems to never get proper credit ? Score sounds totally Balfe to me .Who knows...The booklet credits him. The cuesheet credits him. So the studio knows. :P <br><br>Somewhat related, it occurred to me looking at the cuesheet posted below that I guess Hans wrote the main new tune that's the main part of "Panda Village" - cause it also shows up in "Spirit Realm Part 1," which does *not* credit Lorne Balfe. <br><br>And heck, while I'm here: what two cues are "Po's Destiny" (credited to HZ/JP) and "Potential" (HZ/NW)? I've been able to figure out all the other ones.any particular reason lorne balfe wasn't credited in the film itself? the end credits say music produced by lorne balfe, additional music by paul mounsey, kung fu panda themes by hans zimmer and john powell... but no credit for balfe doing the father/son tune?Outside of Winter's Tale (which is severely underrated imo) nothing RGW has scored has stood out to me. I would've loved to see someone like Lorne Balfe take this type of project on.<br><br>Still, fingers crossed for Rupert to deliver something good. :-)For being mostly electronic underscore, I actually enjoy this album (with some notable exceptions). Pain & Gain definitely had a bit more character, but I enjoy this just as much.
Part of me wishes it was still Debney as his previous effort with Mel resulted in one of the best scores I've heard, but I'm excited to hear what Rupert does here.Do you have more info on that, Hybrid? Like, was it Mel? Or the studio?Yes and he was kicked out !Wasn't John Debney scoring this?Great!
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Conductor - OrchestratorMusic Producer - Music Scoring Mixer & Recordist
Hans ZimmerShirley WalkerJay Rifkin
ComposerAdditional MusicMusic Producer
Black Rain (Limited)
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 141'57
HZimmer.com rating:        5/5
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CD1
  1. Sato Pt. 1 - One-Way Glass (6:34)
  2. Osaka - Phony Cops (1:46)
  3. You Gonna Be Nice? - Sato Pt. 2 (5:21)
  4. Sato Watching - Circling Motorbikes (1:59)
  5. Sugai's Photo - Sato Pt. 3 (3:58)
  6. Sato Pt. 4 (2:05)
  7. Charlie Loses His Head (8:22)
  8. Sequins (2:42)
  9. Masa's Reprimand - Sugai Pt. 1 (5:33)
  10. The Steel Mill (2:45)
  11. Steel Mill Chase - Airplane - Escape (6:18)
  12. Sugai Pt. 2 (8:50)
  13. Arrival Of Oyabuns - Sato's Arrival - Meeting (7:55)
  14. Bikes - Fight - Nick And Masa (9:29)
CD2
    ORIGINAL EMI ALBUM
  1. Livin' On The Edge Of The Night - Iggy Pop (3:38)
  2. The Way You Do The Things You Do - UB 40 (3:15)
  3. Back To Life - Soul II Soul (5:07)
  4. Laserman - Ryuichi Sakamoto (4:48)
  5. Singing In The Shower - Les Rita Mitsouko & Sparks (4:22)
  6. I'll Be Holding On - Gregg Allman (5:38)
    BLACK RAIN SUITE
  7. Sato (4:45)
  8. Charlie Loses His Head (7:03)
  9. Sugai (6:55)
  10. Nick And Masa (2:52)
    BONUS TRACKS
  11. Airplane Muzak (Source) - Shirley Walker (2:05)
  12. Charlie Loses His Head Pt. 1 (Alternate Percussion) (2:32)
  13. Charlie Loses His Head Pt. 2 (Alternate With Koto & Oboe) (2:47)
  14. Masa's Reprimand (Alternate) (1:49)
  15. Bikes - Fight (Alternate) (3:18)
  16. Bikes (Percussion Only) (1:35)
  17. Charlie Loses His Head (Monks Wild) (2:12)
  18. I'll Be Holding On (Main Title Version) - Gregg Allman (2:36)
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Frank reply Replies: 0 || 2014-04-08 05:02:43
The last part of "Charlie loses his head" seems to be the source of Dark Knight, it is very similar with the theme from TDKR

MacArthur reply Replies: 1 || 2013-08-27 02:44:24
Love This Soundtrack


Tommy2013-11-20 15:40:35
yeah, me too !! 5/5

kwolf reply Replies: 0 || 2013-01-05 03:09:36
with all the respect in the world for mr zimmer and i think in modern times he is as GOOD as IT WAS the legendary ENNIO MORRICONE do have a question on the soundtrack on BLACK rain..i've searched all his soundtrack who are brilliant but i've missed one..when SUGAI enters the club and before that minute 54 and 15-20-30 seconds what's the name of the song..it;s driving me mad searching for it..i have the original dvd and all sound track on my computer all except that!!

Trent Easton Navarro reply Replies: 0 || 2012-12-27 18:18:23
La La Land has announced that they'll release another Zimmer score next year! Really curious which one it'll be.

Days of Thunder would be very cool. And I'm still hoping for an expanded The Peacemaker.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 9 || 2012-10-01 03:21:37
This is ultimately one of the best film scores Hans have ever composed in 1990. Even for an expanded score with additional music from the late Shirley Walker and recording artists from UB40, Iggy Pop, etc., this is truly a must have and a part of the RCP Collector's library.


Cloud2012-10-01 13:34:31
To me this is one of the best scores he has ever composed, period. It's easily among my top 3 favorites of his. Then again, when I listen to Hans, I listen almost always to his late 80s/90s/early 00s stuff.


Dawn2012-10-02 13:11:20
@Cloud I feel the same. Late 80's, all 90's and early 2000's... what a great era for film music lovers !


Aggelos2012-10-03 11:49:42
You're right folks. Late '80s and '90s contain the most fantastic stuff from the RCP team. From early 2000, it would seem that the decline-twilight of the memorable theme/cues begins....

Sanguinely, LLL and Intrada will bring to light more of them (remember Intrada's White Fang).


Cloud2012-10-03 13:41:15
I included the early 00s solely because of scores like Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, Hannibal, Spirit or The Last Samurai. These are all great. To me, the last big score of that era was King Arthur. After that, things started to change considerably.

That being said, I really hope LLL or someone decides to release Bird on a Wire and Days of Thunder.


Trent Easton Navarro2012-10-03 16:16:15
Yeah, King Arthur was probably Zimmer's last great score.

And I second Bird on Wire and Days of Thunder! But great scores that need to be released officially


Ds2012-10-03 22:52:58
I think you people are forgetting Pirates 2 & 3! Especially the 3rd!


Prott2012-10-03 23:15:57
... and The Da Vinci Code (at least).


Dawn2012-10-04 01:17:40
Yes, Da Vinci Code and Pirates 3, or even Inception were really good in their own right... but they were exceptions in this "new" era.

I don't know if it is film music that changed, or if it was just me, but from 1995 to 2003, I was excited every 3 months with something new. Then it started to decrease.
Yes I liked King Arthur, but it was not half as good as Gladiator or Black Hawk Down were.
Batman Begins, though it is now iconic and an important evolution in film music, still remains for me a little bit uninteresting and weak.

Maybe I started to get older and lost some natural childood enthusiasm ? Or was there a real decline in quality or inspiration ?... don't know.


fabien2012-11-01 18:13:53
some amazing unreleased part of Nick and Masa theme now released !!!!

bongo reply Replies: 2 || 2012-09-30 18:29:22
Just wondering does this release contain more unreleased music than the complete score bootleg release?


Hybrid Soldier2012-09-30 19:37:25
It does. ;)


bongo2012-09-30 22:45:54
Thankee, ordering right now!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 15 || 2012-06-30 20:55:15
Just announced by LLL, to be released later !!! :D


Anonymous2012-06-30 21:07:05
You beat me to it! Wahey!!!


Adrian2012-07-01 01:33:35
A big like, great news :-)


Ravi2012-07-01 06:27:49
Indeed, great news! So cool to see all these awesome HZ scores being released - Broken Arrow, White Fang and now this. Here's hoping that Lion King and Gladiator aren't too far. :-)


Cloud2012-07-01 17:02:01
Oh, boy. LLL saves the day once again. Black Rain has to be the quintessential Zimmer action score and my absolute alltime favorite of his. This is as good as ordered.


Mikel SiW (a fan from Spain)2012-07-02 13:31:32
Another miracle from La-La Land!!


Pawel Stroinski2012-07-30 01:15:23
The score will be probably released this August. Lala already "announced" that it will be their next release.


Aggelos2012-09-17 14:25:34
No August dudes. End of Sep or early October.
It's gonna be the wickedness!!! LLL needs to tackle more Media Ventures stuff! What on earth have they been doin'?.....

I'm losing my composure and patience!


Aggelos2012-09-18 09:16:17
The shit will be out September 25.
If not, then October 9.


Hybrid Soldier2012-09-18 16:44:12
Coming next week, the 25th !!!! :D


Aggelos2012-09-18 17:32:38
You don't say, bro! Count me in! It's about time to get another fine Zimmer release by triple L. Stop your grinning and drop your linen!

I was hoping some signed copies but the out hopes were trashed by "No signed Black Rain copies. Altough the project was produced with the blessing of Mr. Zimmer."


Trent Easton Navarro2012-09-18 20:00:03
Definitely looking forward to this one! One of Zimmer's finest action scores!


Aggelos2012-09-21 14:59:35
Guys, this score was conducted by Shirley. But what exactly did Shirley conduct in this one?
Was she conducting Hans' fingers whilst he performing and sequencing the music on his synthesizer?


Hybrid Soldier2012-09-21 19:23:42
There's an orchestra in that score.

Not a big one, but there is... ;)


Hybrid Soldier2012-09-25 22:23:36
And here we go ! :)


Aggelos2012-09-26 19:06:02
Yes bro! Freaking ordered without second thoughts!!

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