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I was wondering if 'On Thin Ice' is a flashback to Bruce's time with the League of Shadows, particularly his training with Ducard. That seems like a reasonable way to begin the movie.
Anonymous
2012-07-14 04:28:15
And the word "Ice" appearing again, as in Action Ice Theme on TDK
Is "All Out War" taken directly from the studio masters? It certainly doesn't sound mastered like any of the others.
That's how I hope a digital complete score, if WaterTower ever did one, would be released - relatively untouched.
shatwell
2012-07-14 01:16:22
Yeah it sounds very much like those demos that came around last year with Rango, etc....Doesnt have that bias. I had to tinker with it to make it louder.
I have a couple of questions. Let's say on July 17th, I go to a store and buy The Dark Knight Rises soundtrack. I know I will get the 15 tracks, but which bonus tracks would I get? And if I get three out of the five, how would I be able to get the other two? Thanks. :)
1. Imagine the Fire 2. Rise 3. Fear Will Find You 4. Why Do We Fall? 5. Gotham's Reckoning
BTW I am positive "Rise" is the final track but not the end credits like I previously speculated.
I am listening to Risen from Darkness and I think this may be the end credits track because it begins in the same way dark knight did.
What are your top tracks? I haven't heard the end yet though. Risen from darkness also seems to have the beats by Junkie XL!
Zimmeredge
2012-07-13 01:58:53
The whole album is really great. I really appreciate all of them generaly. But some of these tunes will portray specific scenes in the movie and so it's more complicated to really appreciate them. But hell yeah Imagine the Fire and Rise on top. I'm really hoping for a big bane's suite too.
I heard samples from the shadow betray you and the end and this last one sounds really like another masterpiece from Zimmer. As Hybrid said it's a soften version of Like A Dog Chasin Cars. I will add industrial (electronical) minimal terminator-like version.
Noble
2012-07-13 07:20:46
Shadows Betray You is the song used in the Nokia 3 trailer i been playing it and it is awesome
I think my brain exploded. Oh no, I fall into a coma. Honestly, that's still worse than feared.
Where do I start? This pseudo-two tone "batman" motif, the constant repetition, the lack of variation? This continuous approach to Steve Jablonsky "Transformers" style? For example "Imagine the Fire" aka "Skorponok". Sorry, this is all too simplistic, too repetitive.
Finally! Somebody who gets the point: Zimmer's soundtracks are so boooring and always the same.
my god, the track "the end" is absolutely fantastic. yes it's like "A Dark Knight" in slow-motion, but still what a wonderful sound and how epic it gets. loving it and so glad we're able to have so many other tracks here and there.
hope to see sometime a much more expanded/complete/recording session version of it ;)
Zimmeredge
2012-07-13 12:35:56
where and how did you get the chance to listen "the end"
About the Junkie XL cue, here's what Hans has to say :
"Even though the Junkie XL tracks are in part remixes, he was working on the movie as well. So they are organic to the film."
Agent Smith
2012-07-12 08:48:28
still it would be better to have a cue from the movie instead again a remix.
and hybrid, thanks for all those inside-informations. can't get enough of them :)
fabien
2012-07-12 10:21:55
epic , extraordinary epic ! ;) as expected ...
Hybrid Soldier
2012-07-12 12:56:11
Oh an another interesting thing, I have found an arranger credit for Ramin Djawadi, so I was kinda surprised. I asked if he had done something on TDKR, Hans told me he didn't, but as he worked on Begins, Hans wanted to aknowledge "the family". :)
Zimmeredge
2012-07-12 13:13:30
Yeah I was surprised to see him in crew for the ost.
Zimmer is really sharing the succes with everybody. That's is own specificity.
Pierre
2012-07-12 13:26:13
The three scores from the franchise are closely integrated and related sonically and thematically. In particular this latest score seems to hark back to some material from Begins. So it makes sense.
JordiVcecilia
2012-07-12 13:51:14
Since I don't have a family, I love these family reuinions :))))))))
Anonymous
2012-07-12 15:46:14
I'm sure track 11 is composed by Lorn Balfe. It has his sound all over it :)
Foreskin
2012-07-12 18:32:03
Yes. The three scores are all thematically related.
I guess I kind of figured that when I kept hearing the same damn pieces of score from Batman Begins (now Dark Knight)cut and pasted into each other.
This one feels like it lacks JNH...I feel like tossing in the Hunger Games just to even it out.
Sean
2012-07-12 18:36:25
I wonder if and HOW Hybrid Soldier knows Hans...hmm. >.>
bimbo
2012-07-12 19:14:20
how about this theory: hybrid solider IIIIS hans zimmer :O
Hybrid Soldier
2012-07-12 19:26:42
Yeah apparently I'm a lot of people these days.
It's just, he follows H-Z.com more than you think, and quite like it, and knows I'm some sort of middleman between him and you guys.
JordiVcecilia
2012-07-12 23:50:57
I really could wish H-Z.com being the official Hans Zimmer site but then I had a second thought: If this site is official then some info couldn't be here. So,this is the best way!! Hans and all who follows H-Z.com knows that this the most complete, accurate and "updated" site about media ventures, Remote Control and Hans Zimmer. Congratulations Stèphane for the job you are doing here and for being such a cool guy (I'm not a creep, you are!) Now I leave you because I have a couple of tracks to burn. Can you imagine wich ones?;) HZ rules.
JordiVCecilia
2012-07-12 23:59:21
I want to correct the last mesage I wrote:
I really could wish H-Z.com being the official Hans Zimmer site but then I had a second thought: If this site is official then some info couldn't be here. So,this is the best way!! Hans and all the people who follows H-Z.com knows that this is the most complete, accurate and "updated" site about media ventures, Remote Control and Hans Zimmer. Congratulations Stèphane for the job you are doing here and for being such a cool guy (I'm not a creep, you are really a cool guy!) Now I leave you because I have to listen in a insane way a couple of tracks... Can you imagine wich ones?;) HZ rules.
bimbo
2012-07-13 00:06:09
the middle-man should tell then the real-man that he has to release a recording sessions of the thin red line! Pronto! :)
Hybrid Soldier, you can tell Mr. Zimmer that he just blew this 16 year old's mind! :D I really enjoy hearing a couple of themes from "Batman Begins", because I believe that the music in that movie really captured the true meaning of Batman. Not to say I didn't like "The Dark Knight", that was epic ("Like A Dog Chasing Cars"- nuff said,)but "BB" really captured the story of Bruce Wayne. :) I didn't think a soundtrack could be as epic as "The Dark Knight" until I heard "The Dark Knight Rises". Just mind blowing! Thank you Mr. Hans Zimmer! You are the best!
CD exclusives. It's one of those "website code" deals.
Zimmeredge
2012-07-12 00:12:11
can you go further? because i don't understand that.
cheesy
2012-07-12 01:17:10
When Game of Shadows came out, inside the CD jewel case was a slip of paper with a code on it that you could enter into the Watertower website to receive a free download of the exclusive bonus tracks. The same thing's happening with TDKR - inside copies of the "enhanced CD" will be a slip of paper allowing you a code to download the remix, No Stone Unturned, and Risen from Darkness. The other two are digital exclusives.
Zimmeredge
2012-07-12 02:52:47
Yeah so it's basically what i wanted to do.
The question is now: will I have to buy the entire album digitally to get the digital exclusives?
(I don't mind I'm ready to pay for it, t'was part of my plan after all)
Horg
2012-07-12 03:28:58
I got AGOS off itunes and was able to get the bonus tracks... finding the suite however, was the problem. See its not given to you off itunes, so unless you appen upon it by some miracle, or you get the link from someone, you are eligible to get the bonus tracks either way, its just you need the link to get them. Quite annoying, really -.-
h t t p://www.watertowermusic.com/newsstory.php?search=560803
just read WaterTower's press release
pissed about no FULL score release.. but the iphone app may be cool i guess
Zimmeredge
2012-07-11 20:12:13
they didn't say that they will not release a ful score.
They just annouce offically what we already knew (Iphone app, Vinyl edition and deluxe digital edition).
they can't say they will release a full score right now. They have to sell the "normal" score first (maximize the benefits because do not forget it's a Dark Knight soundtrack made by Zimmer so commercially it's huge!)
cheesy
2012-07-11 22:15:54
Right. Who in their right mind would announce a full score release a week before the official album even comes out? This is all about the game of maximizing profits. We might not even hear about any expanding releases until closer to the DVD/BlueRay release. We didn't hear about TDK until October.
On Thin Ice and Mind If I Cut In? sounds like from JNH :)
Zimmeredge
2012-07-11 11:43:58
Zimmer all the way. He can write and produce that kind of track too.
Hybrid Soldier
2012-07-11 11:52:19
Indeed, it sounds a lot like late 1980s HZ !
But still I can feel Lorne's arrangements all around in this album, like the typical "Ironcladish" high strings + synth pad use... :P
Pierre
2012-07-11 11:53:18
I love On Thin Ice. There is an altogether new harmonisation of the 2 note motif.
In batman begins, we had it first going from D to F with no harmonies as Batman was lost and trying to find his path. The scene in the bat cave where he stands up we finally got the resolution with the F landing on a heroic dominant B flat major chord, which is still used throughout the trilogy for heroic moments.
In the Dark Knight, a new dangerous sounding harmonisation was introduced with the progression going to the major seventh D flat major instead of B flat major.
But in on thin ice we hear them theme again, this time moving from D minor to a very uncertain and reflective sounding Fmaj6 chord. Unexpected and beautiful.
Also the melody itself rises and falls, instead of going from D to F, it becomes a three note motif, coming back down again to D, signalling batman's fall/depression/lack of will.
Yet later on in the track Despair, we hear the most epic version of the two note motif, where the crescendo on the D seems to keep going on forever, and finally landing on the heroic B flat major F note in an immense burst of sound.
If the industry is working so hard against piracy, don't you think something that would help would be to eliminate all of these corporate exclusives?
I mean, album only digital exclusive bonus tracks, iPhone exclusive apps and content... and they wonder why people illegally download things.
I purchased the CD. Where are my props? No one in their right mind is going to separately purchase the entire album digitally just for two bonus tracks. So how do you think I'm going to get those?
And it's not like someone's going to buy an iPhone just to download one app, unless they're a blundering moron, so what's the use of these exclusives if all they do is agitate people into using other methods of getting what they want?
Joshua
2012-07-09 00:03:09
Valid point
Hybrid Soldier
2012-07-09 13:52:37
I know, I agree, I told Hans, and I don't even have an iPhone myself !
Hans knows there will be a lot of crying... But it is the way it is... At some point even he has to make choices to go on. What he technically wants to do, he can only do it that way.
Anyway, I've heard a sample of the track "The End" on Deezer, it's absolutely fantastic, a soft "dreamy" version of Like A Dog Chasing Cars. :D
Ds
2012-07-09 14:02:37
How did you find it on deezer? I find nothing about the dark knight rises...
theeaglesfan005
2012-07-09 14:53:48
what's deezer?
mc donald
2012-07-09 15:21:34
He knows there will be a lot of crying about what?
Hybrid Soldier
2012-07-09 16:12:21
About... what's gonna happen very soon !
Hans more or less explained the whole thing to me, but I can't say much more before it's completely settled.
But I can already feel the deferling wave of unhappy people coming right through us !!!!!
I guess we'll know very soon, since last time he asked me not to shout classified info (meaning Superman), it was known worldwide 2 days after ! o_O :)
shatwell
2012-07-09 16:31:55
Why would there be crying? Most of you on here will end up getting it for free when it leaks anyway...if there's any crying that's typically done, it's when people hear parts of the score that arent on the album release and they they get mad...More than likely they have to wait for a dvd screener rip or something to complete it.
Same as it ever was?
At least Hans Zimmer is giving us 2 more tracks...similar to what he did with Inception in 2010.
Pierre
2012-07-09 16:32:51
A Dark Knight Rises Iphone App, I guess. I don't care, I don't have an iphone and I'm never going to get one.
Zimmeredge
2012-07-09 17:13:33
Dear Hybrid Soldier
I can't find anything on deezer concerning TDKR ost.
Hybrid Soldier
2012-07-09 17:50:10
You kidding ?
Just google "The Dark Knight Rises" "Deezer", I'm sure you'll find something.
Soyez pas plus bête que vous en avez l'air !! ;)
Extracts are kinda blocked for some countries, but there are other ways... :P
Hybrid Soldier
2012-07-09 17:51:05
Interesting... -__-
Antas you should fix that accent problem once & for all !! ;)
no
2012-07-09 18:53:06
So you're essentially saying that Warner Bros. are backpedaling and aren't going to let Hans release something that they previously promised him that they would?
that clip sounds like the beginning of "Science and Religion" from Angels and Demons with the new batman theme pasted on top
Hybrid Soldier
2012-07-09 22:53:21
Of course the French is good, since I'm... well, French ! ;)
Zimmeredge
2012-07-10 01:04:17
sans déconner un compatriote français qui connait indirectement Hans Zimmer.
"I am impressed!" comme dirait Hardy dans Inception.
Hybrid Soldier
2012-07-10 10:06:49
Même plutôt directement... ;)
Regarding these new bonus tracks, it's definitely getting tricky. Looks like a Sherlock 2 kinda thing, with digital tracks to get with the CD or something.
This + the iTunes/Amazon tracks... Interesting, it's gonna be a big mess ! Tron Legacy looks simple next to that hahaha !
Oh and by the way the OST content really contains the film cues, not HZ's suites. TDK first OST contained 37 min of theme suites.
On amazon.com it includes this on the page for the CD:
"*** Enhanced CD - unlocks 3 additional tracks! 2 are exclusive to the CD: Bombers Over Ibiza (JunkieXL remix) No Stone Unturned (exclusive) Risen From Darkness (exclusive)***"
Are those two tracks separate exclusives?
Uga2
2012-07-10 06:04:21
Awesome! But why is there a track "Risen in Darkness" when there is a similar title "Born in Darkness"? this confuses me.
Falaffel
2012-07-10 06:54:11
Boy O Boy...More douchebaggery...Now we have a CD that people are going to buy, ON TOP OF the Digital download just so they can get ALL of the released material.
On top of it, Amazon is selling it for 10 bucks...Itunes version? $13.99
Theres some awesome new sections of the score heard in the 13 minute featurette. In particular Underground army at 6:19. it has a kraken vibe to it but its alot more agressive...didnt even think that was possible lol
only way i will cry is if the FULL score is not released officially... i mean WaterTower said on their FB page they were releasing it digitally... someone.. asked them about a full score... now just hoping they know what that means
This is all the music that I am going to listen to for the three days (maybe more if it leaks) before the premiere. Anyone with going to do the same thing?
Hybrid Soldier
2012-07-07 20:21:51
Good idea !
Anyway the only thing I'm gonna listen, as soon as I have that OST, is just Batman music, and of course watching BB & TDK before the big finale !!!! :)
Zimmeredge
2012-07-07 21:38:00
are you kidding me!? both of you guys!
I'm already listening BB and TDK again and again... and again. and also the samples (btw where can i find samples of the shadows betray you and the end because they're not available anymore on amazon).
So many memories with those two wonderful soundtracks!
I'll wait until the last moment to watch BB and TDK again. To have a genuine, fresh and clear point of view of the whole story.
Mr. Charles
2012-07-07 22:25:58
My theatre is doing a triple feature
Mr. Charles
2012-07-07 22:28:00
Starting at 6:30 Thursday night. Batman Begins and then The Dark Knight, leading up to the 12:01AM midnight opening show of The Dark Knight Rises. I'll so be there!!!
Zimmeredge
2012-07-07 22:55:26
I hate you Mr Charles! =)
Here in France my Imax location is not allowed to make a full Batman night. WB-France refused that option. That's a shame!
Nite
2012-07-08 05:40:09
Does anyone have the score yet the last one got leaked faster than this one.
Drunkenmunkey
2012-07-09 00:16:01
Course I am going to listen to BB and TDK. I don't own BB but defo watching TDK. @ Charles my theater is too. Going with a couple of freinds that did not want to do the triple feature, so going at like 9:30 and chilling so we can get good seats!
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