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Are there any making-of clips or featurettes about the music for TDKR with Hans Zimmer? I know about that "Sound of The Dark Knight Rises" one with the editors, but are there any that feature Hans talking about the music more, or some clips of the orchestra playing it?
the bluray version has a long featurette that hasn't been uploaded to youtube yet that has demonstrations/interviews with hans, and clips of the orchestra playing a lot of the bane suite and shit.
I have the blu ray but I was never able to figure out how to get to any of the featurettes.
So it appears that MAYBE Chris Nolan is in talks to direct Bond 24. What I immediately thought is: HANS ZIMMER doing James Bond? That could be a lot of fun! What do you think?
Isn't Chris Nolan doing Interstellar right now? And didn't Hybrid say Hans is scoring that?
Yep, he is. But still he's in talks for Bond (or maybe it's just a rumor, we can't possibly know). If this news is true, i suppose he'll do Bond right after shooting Interstellar... But then there will be no Bond until 2015 and that's a bit long. Wait and see.
What the hell is that? where you get it from? the source do not tell me is your'ss
You guys know how Zimmer said, after Batman Begins, that eventually the two note theme would be expanded (at the point of BB, Batman hadn't "earned his theme")? Well you might actually be hearing that if you listen starting at 8:07 in "Wayne Manor". You can also hear it in the "On Thin Ice" track.
I have a question: who determines the way in which the various tracks are released? For example, 15 tracks will be on the CD, then three will be made available by going to a website, then two will be made available via iTunes, then you get the last one by buying movie tickets?
I have a question: When a soundtrack comes out for sale, who determines how much music goes on the cd? For example, with The Dark Knight Rises, is it Hans Zimmer who goes, "Okay, I'm going to put this much music on the disc", or is it the company WaterTower Music that goes, "No, we're putting this much music"? Is it the company or the composer?
First of all, there's no time restriction, since it's a UK recorded score.
Then, yes, it's HZ.
Honestly, as much as I liked the score as heard in the film and the four suites Hans wrote, I don't think the album was the greatest release. The first 6 tracks are new enough, but the next 9 are for the most part variations on old material. That's a shame, too, because there was a lot of new music in this movie (especially compared to TDK vs. Begins). The album should have focused more on the new stuff.
Although, Imagine the Fire, Why Do We Fall?, and Rise are quite excellent...
Hybrid Soldier, I have a question perhaps you can answer. Why is it that Batman Chased/Risen From Darkness sounds way different on the album than it does in the film?
In the movie, when Batman knocks the dude off the motorcycle, we hear the credits music as it usually sounds--but on the album, it's edited differently. Immediately after that, when the chase starts, the movie uses a cue from the beginning of Molossus--edited differently in the album version. In the movie, once it goes back to the chase after Striver says, "He's drawing the cops off Bane", the new heroic theme stays around a while, but on the album, it quickly ends and is followed by a Molossus variation. When Batman blows up the car and escapes on the ramp, the movie uses the cue from Molossus--edited differently on the album. Finally, during the last part of that scene, the movie uses "Back Up" pretty much verbatim--but AGAIN, it's edited differently on the album. The whole track just sounds much more electronic on the album.
Whew...That felt like a mouthful. XD
Two explanations => Music Editor & Music Mixer !
There's a scene to score. They temp it with edited Begins cues and a portion of Zimmer's new suite. Hans asks Lorne to take care of that sequence which is 4:30. Lorne writes something, using the temp, rearranging it and all. It gets recorded, approved, "Batman Chased" is born.
Then it comes to final step, mixing into the film. And there a hell of a lot things might happen. New editing of the scene occurs, so the music editor has to butcher the cue to make the transition last 3 seconds longer or something. Oh and in the end the tone of cue doesn't really fit the scene anymore, the music mixer removes a layer of music, less electro, more orchestra or the contrary. Oh and in the end the temp music is a little better for this particular segment, incorporate it back again in the cue. Or they of course can ask the composer to rewrite a new version of it, or write short inserts to replace pre-existing segments...
And then, that's why you have Batman Chased as written and what you hear in the film, and you might think "WTF ??" !
In a similar case, the "Pirates Attack Pt 2" from POTC 1 we hear in film is the funniest big editing mess ever !
Or Pearl Harbor, the Attack cue has like all the percussions & electronica mixed like crazy OVER the orchestra in the movie, making it sound so weird compared to Geoff's original cue. A layer from Dorie The Hero was also removed in the film. :)
Wow. Good explanation, thanks!
Well the thing is they never record a full cue "together"...
They record the string section, the brass section, the percs. Then there's the electronic elements.
So at the end the mixer can really do what he wants. Alan Meyerson, THE RCP legend mixer, is absolutely great. :)
I assume, looking at your first comment, that the "Risen From Darkness" track is the chase scene as Lorne initially arranged it?
Just out of curiosity, why is this being discussed under the OST and no the Complete Score? Because "Batman Chased" is on the Complete Score. It's nowhere to be found on the OST
Err it's Risen From Darkness, one of the OST's bonus tracks...
I put it here since I was referring to Risen From Darkness. :)
As Hybrid already said, it's a bonus track you get by purchasing the CD.
amazing unreleased score during the bonus features. there is an alternate version of Why do we Fall and a much more faster and more aggressive version of The Shadows Betray You would be cool to create earthquake with these tracks... anybody knows where to search? because this music obviously went to warner brothers
Argo nominated, I hope the Globes comitee knows that the cool piece at the end is... from Spy Game !! Haha
They probably don't even know that. Desplat is an appreciated composer and Argo is nominated for Best Picture, it's enough to nominate it for Best Music :D
Unfortunately, I have not seen the movie. @Hybrid: which piece from Spy Game is played at the end?
It's "Do You Miss London"; not on the official soundtrack.
Argo is still a far better score than anything Hans has done this year.
... but a far worse score than anything Desplat has done this year :D
I was a little disappointed when TDKR came out, because i had ridiculous high expectations for this score. But now, 6 months later, i'm still listening to it, enjoying it more and more. Hans has found a crazy sound for Gotham, it just takes some time to enjoy it really!
You wouldn't say that if you'd heard Desplat's Rust and Bone, Ds. I didn't know he had that level of crappitude in him...Makes Argo (which I'm not a fan of) look like a bloody masterpiece in comparison.
When i saw Rust & Bone, i barely noticed there was music, so this one didn't count for me :D I was speaking about the wonderful score for Rise of the Guardians, which is far superior to Argo!
Can't argue with you there. Rise of the Guardians was pretty good...though not as good as a John Powell score for that movie would have been!
100% agree on this. I was so disappointed when Desplat was hired instead of Powell :(
Well "Do You Miss London" isn't featured on the Spy Game soundtrack with that specifif name, but what I heard in Argo is definitely on the soundrack ! If I remember correctly, I'd say this is the piano theme you hear in "My Name is Tom".
My time to play the game of correect order. And trust me that one is 100% true :
01 - A Storm Is Coming (Opening Logo) 02 - Gotham's Reckoning (Prologue) 03 - Mind If I Cut In? (mix between the Safe scene & the Airport scene) 04 - Nothing Out There 05 - On Thin Ice (when Blake visits Bruce) 06 - Risen From Darkness (Batpod Chase) 07 - Fear Will Find You (Bat & Cat fight the thugs on the rooftop) 08 - Death By Exile (Bane talks to Wayne in Prison) 09 - The Fire Rises (mix between a part of the Bane Suite + Bane's Speech) 10 - Born In Darkness 11 - Underground Army (when the two outside cops get in the team and caught by Bane) 12 - Why Do We Fall? 13 - Despair (Bruce returns to Gotham) 14 - All Out War (mix between Bat & Cat talking and Bruce bagged to Fox) 15 - Necessary Evil (Big revelation) 16 - No Stone Unturned (mix between the last action sequence & The Harvey Dent Speech at the beginning of the movie) 17 - Rise (Ending)
Imagine The Fire is just part of the Wayne Manor suite, and The End & The Shadows Betray You are more like suites too... :)
MY EDIT OF THE SCORE
1. A Storm Is Coming 2. Gotham's Reckoning 3. On Thin Ice (0:00-0:34) 4. No Stone Unturned (6:21-7:29) 5. Born In Darkness (0:00-0:34) 6. Mind If I Cut In? 7. No Stone Unturned (6:21-7:29) 8. Nothing Out There 9. On Thin Ice (0:35-0:49) 10. Selina Kyle (Suite) (0:00-4:10) [Filler] 11. Bane (Suite) (0:00-1:54) 12. On Thin Ice 13. Fox Meeting (2m13 Trip to Hong Kong from TDK) 14. Bane (Suite) (0:00-1:54) 15. Gotham's Reckoning (2:34-2:50) 16. The Fire Rises (0:00-0:45) 17. Risen From Darkness 18. Fear Will Find You 19. The Fire Rises (2:28-3:08) 20. On Thin Ice (0:53-2:55) 21. Why Do We Fall? (0:29-1:29) 22. Mind If I Cut In? (1:53-2:38) 23. Gotham's Reckoning (1:10-2:33) 1 24. Gotham's Reckoning (1:10-2:33) 2 25. Gotham's Reckoning (0:44-1:10) 3 26. Gotham's Reckoning (0:00-0:43) 4 27. The Fire Rises (1:43-2:19) 1 28. The Fire Rises (2:41-5:33) 2 29. Born In Darkness 30. Ra's Immortal (Meeting Ducard from BB) 31. Underground Army 32. Bane (Suite) (2:41-4:08) 33. Why Do We Fall, Bruce? (1m8b Mugging, Pt. 2 from BB) 34. Why Do We Fall? 35. Death By Exile 36. All Out War (1:56-3:22) 1 37. All Out War (1:56-3:22) 2 38. Despair 39. All Out War (0:00-1:56) 40. Bane (Suite) (1:54-5:52) 41. Bane (Suite) (18:11-19:47) 42. Necessary Evil 43. Imagine The Fire (3:41-7:25) 44. No Stone Unturned (0:00-6:21) 45. Bruce Wayne? (Mugging, Pt. 2 from BB) 46. Rise 47. TDKR Credits (Recording)
Total Time: 1:39:35
Before "No Stone Unturned" in the end, is the first part of "Introduce A Little Anarchy" when the convoy pursues the bomb.
No Stone Unturned has that cue in it...
@theeaglesfan005: who cares about your fucking fan edit?
Evenstar... um... ok?
because it matches the film order... whatever.. you obviously have issues
I have no idea if a moderator will edit this question, but if I purchase the Origins, will the tracks be listenable on iTunes or just in the app? I wanna know before potentially wasting money on it lol.
Can anyone tell me where/if "The Shadows Betray You" plays in the film? I'm trying to arrange the tracks as in-order as I can.
and you do know the complete score is out there, right?
but if you really want a film order from the OST... this was my edit I had before the complete score came out
1. A Storm Is Coming 2. Gotham's Reckoning 3. On Thin Ice (0:00-0:34) 4. No Stone Unturned (6:21-7:29) 5. Born In Darkness (0:00-0:34) 6. Mind If I Cut In? 7. No Stone Unturned (6:21-7:29) 8. Nothing Out There 9. On Thin Ice (0:35-0:49) 10. Selina Kyle (Suite) (0:00-4:10) [Filler] 11. Bane (Suite) (0:00-1:54) 12. On Thin Ice 13. Fox Meeting (2m13 Trip to Hong Kong from TDK) 14. Bane (Suite) (0:00-1:54) 15. Gotham's Reckoning (2:34-2:50) 16. The Fire Rises (0:00-0:45) 17. Risen From Darkness 18. Fear Will Find You 19. The Fire Rises (2:28-3:08) 20. On Thin Ice (0:53-2:55) 21. Why Do We Fall? (0:29-1:29) 22. Mind If I Cut In? (1:53-2:38) 23. Gotham's Reckoning (1:10-2:33) 1 24. Gotham's Reckoning (1:10-2:33) 2 25. Gotham's Reckoning (0:44-1:10) 3 26. Gotham's Reckoning (0:00-0:43) 4 27. The Fire Rises (1:43-2:19) 1 28. The Fire Rises (2:41-5:33) 2 29. Born In Darkness 30. Ra's Immortal (Meeting Ducard from BB) 31. Underground Army 32. Bane (Suite) (2:41-4:08) 33. Why Do We Fall, Bruce? (1m8b Mugging, Pt. 2 from BB) 34. Why Do We Fall? 35. Death By Exile 36. All Out War (1:56-3:22) 1 37. All Out War (1:56-3:22) 2 38. Despair 39. All Out War (0:00-1:56) 40. Bane (Suite) (1:54-5:52) 41. Bane (Suite) (18:11-19:47) 42. Necessary Evil 43. Imagine The Fire (3:41-7:25) 44. No Stone Unturned (0:00-6:21) 45. Bruce Wayne? (Mugging, Pt. 2 from BB) 46. Rise
I hope in return of this theme :) watch?v=cZvNbDRmoJg
People are always saying they hope for this theme to return or that trailer music to be used in the film. I say let's get some new stuff that blows all of that out of the water.
Lasiurus is still one of my favorite film score tracks of all time, and I wouldn't argue with a cameo appearance in the third film, but it'd be a waste to reuse it extensively. I'd much rather have my mind blown by something new I know Zimmer is going to deliver.
Iam agree with you chessy, Lasiurus track also on of my favourite great music of H-Z and i hope to hear it again in TDKR but in new and edited version , i love Lasiurus = Ra's Al Ghul Suite (Ex.Sc) especial the cue (3:01) > (6:50) and in TDK score my favourite suite A Dark Knight especial the cues ;- (3:00) > (8:26) and (12:50) > (16:14) and Watch The World Burn, i can say like what Hybrid Soldier said H-Z Killer themes and Suites i excepect a great score of TDKR - H-Z.
Well, you guys got your wish. Lasiurus was in the movie briefly.
One question guys do we have any news on a ultimate score of THIS EPIC MOVIE because my eye caught some links on youtube The Dark Knight Rises Ultimate Score 3 cd!!!! because i got mine from amazon and blowed my mind thinking what this ultimate score will do
Stay away for any bullshit named "ultimate complete score edit" or whatever. Look around on this very site, and you should be able to find the listing for the recording sessions/complete score. A download link for it is not that hard to find either.