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It hits all the same notes you would expect out of a feel good sports movie, but the performances and real life story really add a lot to it, as does Rabin’s score.<br>=======================<br><br><br>Well said! <br><br>Agreed.I've demanded for it to be removed a long time ago... Maybe in 10 years, who knows...RIP to a legend....<br><br>Just rewatched Coach Carter a few weeks back. It hits all the same notes you would expect out of a feel good sports movie, but the performances and real life story really add a lot to it, as does Rabin’s score.Listening to Rabin's two powerful "basketball scores" - this one and Glory Road. In memory of the great Kobe! RIP, legend!Honestly man, I never understood this site's ratings either.
For those of you disappointed in this score...remember...This is Bad Boys 3 lol....Have you heard Bad Boys 1+2? Cmon now...relax and take it for what it isI'd be surprised if we don't see some Wallfisch scores this year. He has been so prolific lately, would be weird to suddenly go an entire year without a single assignment.CD coming from LLL!Really liked this score, and the movie wasn't as bad as people claim as well... Benjamin Wallfisch does some very nice stuff, his horror scores are always on point like It 1 & 2, Annabelle: Creation, A Cure for Wellness...<br><br>I know he's gonna deliver it with Mortal Kombat even if the movie isn't that good. But kind of a bummer that his next scheduled project comes out in 2021 LOL'Cause maybe the expected all the cues from the sessions
I like this music!The #balfeness !!!! Has outdone himself on Bad Boys for Life.<br>A nod to the last but brought it up to date.<br>This and 6 Underground has blown me away with Balfe’s musici can't understand, when someone is saying "it REMINDS of mw2" when those mentioned cues are completely re-used 1:1. it's identical, sometimes layered with mancinas themes. it doesn't just remind you of mw2 when lorne seriously uses the identical tracks or parts from mw2 -_-<br><br>@bayhem: then listen to it. i'm not a fan of lorne, but his work there is real fun and some real good action cues. with the themes of Zimmer, it's crazy that it's just a game. one of or maybe THE best work of lorne!Colleague of mine (a film score fan too) asked me which new Balfe score is better in my opinion - Bad Boys for Life or 6 Underground?<br><br>Honestly - and as much as I praised BB3 - I couldn't decide......<br><br><br>Both movies have a lot of songs, which is something I don't like. Look at Transformers. There are songs too but they don't overshadow the score. The score is still the star and that's why people flood Steve's Twitter with praise. Day after day. <br><br>But sadly for Lorne, his recent work in film WAS indeed overshadowed by the random songs. If they didn't rely on songs so much, I'm sure that 6 Underground would've been the crown jewel for Lorne. It's a big, big movie that begs for equally big and memorable score (though we can't really expect Transformners-syze score). <br><br>At the end of the day, Lorne did good on 6 Underground but it was just a small sign of what COULD have been.....Some of the action bits, yeah......
This right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...<br>....................<br><br><br>It's bigger than that.....<br><br>After all, this is a Bruckheimer production. His movies established Hans and the entire MV/RC sound. His movies are known for their awesome scores. Scores that are populrar with the ordinary viewers as well.  But 2008 onward, things changed.....Back in the 90's and early 2000's every single Bruckheimer film had a spectacular score. Powerful, melodic themes, cues that stayed with you, scores that attracted the attention of the average Joe. <br><br>Nowadays tho, we don't have that. Hell, when was the last time a (newer) action score from MV/RC-related composer was praised the way 'The Rock' was praised?<br><br>Lorne's Mission Impossible? No. Not even close. <br><br><br>Personally, I like what Lorne did with BB3, especially with the emotional cues. But put it next to Mancina's work. I mean it's not even a contest. The Mancina score is one memorable, melodic track after another. There's not a single boring track. Every track is a banger. <br><br>But the newer scores? They have two or three tracks that are  good and everything else is.......utterly forgettable.<br><br>I blame it on the lack of themes. Orchestra or not, more scores need to have actual themes.Some cues sound like Speed 2Guess I'm the only person around here who hasn't listened to the Modern Warfare 2 score. So I can't really have an opinion on this matter..... lolThis right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...Everyone keep mentionning mw2 but those drums reminded me of...skylanders giants lol! Just listen to the track « Arena battle » and let me know
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Additional Music - Conductor - Orchestrator
Hans ZimmerShirley WalkerFiachra TrenchJohn Powell
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional MusicMusic Programmer
White Fang
Label: Intrada
Length: 119'13
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
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CD1 - MUSIC BY BASIL POLEDOURIS
  1. Main Title & Opening Credits (3:32)
  2. Golden Staircase (2:03)
  3. The Place (2:34)
  4. Death Of Kiche (2:08)
  5. Death Of Kiche (Revised) (1:14)
  6. Wolf Dance (6:48)
  7. Wolf Dance (Revised) (1:55)
  8. Slow Motion Wolves (1:15)
  9. Puppy Things (2:31)
  10. Fang On Sled (0:32)
  11. The River (1:42)
  12. The Bear Attack (3:14)
  13. The Cabin (2:14)
  14. The Cabin (Revised) (0:24)
  15. Mining Montage (0:47)
  16. Pit Fight (1:36)
  17. Jack Bit (2:51)
  18. Bonding (2:11)
  19. Just Friends (1:07)
  20. Gold Test (1:15)
  21. Fang's Revenge (1:10)
  22. Jack And White Fang (1:04)
  23. Jack Forces Fang Away (1:57)
  24. The Return (3:06)
  25. End Credits (3:51)
  26. Saloon Source (1:24)
  27. Saloon Source (Alternate) (1:19)
  28. Saloon Source #2 (1:37)
  29. Saloon Source #2 (Alternate) (1:32)
  30. Sweet Betsy From Pike (1:36)
CD2 - MUSIC BY HANS ZIMMER
  1. Opening Credits - Main Title (4:18)
  2. The Staircase (2:26)
  3. The Trek Continues (1:51)
  4. Black Wolf (8:31)
  5. Full Moon Wolf Attack (1:20)
  6. Kiche's Demise (9:40)
  7. Seasons Pass (4:23)
  8. The Bear Attack (2:38)
  9. The Mine (7:34)
  10. Fang With Jack (3:20)
  11. Vengeance Fulfilled (2:51)
  12. Home Again (8:16)
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David reply Replies: 2 || 2019-09-16 01:46:17
Hey hybrid soldier! You mentioned on the ghost in the shell page about white fang so I came here! Can you give us a list of the cues as they appear in the film please? The Basil Poledouris cues and the Hans Zimmer cues please


Hybrid Soldier2019-09-16 01:55:03
The Hans cues used are :

1M1 OPENING CREDITS / MAIN TITLE (USED FROM 2:18 TO 3:03)
1M2 GOLDEN STAIRCASE (USED FROM 0:00 TO 1:56)
2M2 JACK SEES WOLVES
2M3 BLACK WOLF
2M6 THE TREK CONTINUES (USED FROM 0:28 TO 1:15)
3M1 THIN ICE
3M2 SKUNKER'S DEATH
3M3 FULL MOON WOLF ATTACK
3M3A MORNING WOLF ATTACK
6M4 THE BEAR
6M4A THE BEAR ATTACK
7M3 IN THE STABLE
7M5 WHITE FANG FIGHTS SATAN
8M1 FIGHT MONTAGE (FIRST HALF USED)
8M3 PIT FIGHT (FINAL 20 SEC USED)

All the rest, by definition, is Basil's score...


David2019-09-16 02:03:30
Cool thanks for getting back! I am still a little bit confused though. Do any Basil Poledouris cues go somewhere in that list? It’s been a very very long time since I have seen the film.

Michael Poleschuck reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-16 10:13:13
Wow! How did John Powell involved in this project? And did he something significant here in synthesizers programming?

Ds reply Replies: 10 || 2016-04-28 23:02:26
I'm listening to that score for the first time, have to say I'm impressed. I didn't realize how quick Zimmer established himself in Hollywood (although I was just born, maybe it explains why).

Barely 3 years after "Rain Man" he was already doing big movie scores like this one or Backdraft the same year. As well as two scores for Ridley Scott, and one for his brother Tony. I can't think of a single composer who managed to climb at the top so quickly.


Hybrid Soldier2016-04-28 23:18:04
Wow first time ? :)

There's some POTC 3 & Spirit lost in this !


Edmund Meinerts2016-04-28 23:18:34
I can: Junkie XL. Make of that what you will... :|

This is an okay score but I don't find it to be as engaging or catchy or involving as other Zimmer scores from around the same period, like Days of Thunder or K2 (let alone Backdraft or the awesome A League of Their Own).


Hybrid Soldier2016-04-28 23:21:57
HGW climbed quite fast too ! ;)

Oh btw speaking of K2, I want to set something straight. HZ's score for that one was done in 1992. The film originally came out in 1991 with the first score and it was decided to rescore it for Europe (and not the other way around). So Hans did it with Nick, who only joined Media Ventures in 1992 (and his first work was on Toys).


Edmund Meinerts2016-04-28 23:32:21
There's quite a few, really. I mean, David Arnold totally came out of nowhere in the mid-90s (and has since returned to nowhere, sadly). Danny Elfman's rise around the same time as Zimmer's was just as meteoric.

I'm not actually so sure about HGW, for that matter. He didn't get any really big assignments on his own until arguably Spy Game in 2001; he did a lot of collaborative work before then but usually played second fiddle to someone else (Rabin or Powell or Hans himself). Mark Mancina might be a better example for MV, coming out of pretty much nowhere to do a huge action movie like Speed. Or even Powell himself: Face/Off is a hell of a big movie to debut on!


Joshua2016-04-28 23:55:46
So what is the story with this score. Was Hans brought in to save the day here? Did they leave Basils name because of his main theme?


Ds2016-04-29 00:03:11
I guess the MV formula worked really well for those guys... Powell, Mancina, HGW, what a dream team! But in Zimmer's case I find it even more impressive, because he started the whole thing himself, without this kind of studio to get him visibility (as far as I know, at least).

As for Junkie XL... for reasons you probably know, I think he's a totally different story (and with much less merits).

Next ones I've got to discover: K2 and A League of their own. As you probably guessed, I'm back in full fanboy-mode, I'm tired of waiting for new HZ releases and for the final concert, so I'm digging into the past! :-p


Edmund Meinerts2016-04-29 00:07:54
As I understand it, the filmmakers pushed hard to get a more contemporary sound to the score, and while Basil Poledouris is no slouch at that kind of thing (just listen to his Wind score, which is amazing), I guess they ultimately ended up "soft rejecting" what he wrote and got Zimmer to come in and stop the gaps. I've never seen the movie, but from what I've read, it uses portions of both scores; mostly Poledouris for the themes and Zimmer for the action music.

It certainly sounds like a weird situation!

(Oh, and by the way, the sequel score for White Fang 2: Myth of the White Wolf, an early-career effort by John Debney, is really good! Better than either the Poledouris or the Zimmer.)


Edmund Meinerts2016-04-29 00:12:37
Even Zimmer kind of got his start off the back of Stanley Meyers, admittedly. It's how he nabbed all those little British drama movies in the late 80s like My Beautiful Launderette and The Fruit Machine. But yeah, Junkie XL is a totally different story.

Dude, A League of Their Own will blow your mind. It's like absolutely nothing else in Zimmer's career - okay, the dramatic material and themes sound like him, but the game music is this crazy, complex, energetic big-band jazz stuff which is just so much fun to listen to. Think The Incredibles on steroids. It's my favorite early Zimmer score!


Ds2016-04-29 00:23:00
Haha Edmund you make me really curious! Just managed to get my hand on A League of their own, I'll let you know what I think!

As for K2, I can't find it anywhere. It's not on iTunes (in Europe at least), it's not for download on amazon, nowhere at all. If you have a tip, please let me know :-)


Ds2016-04-29 17:34:48
Edmund, I really love that soundtrack! Very reminiscent of some of my favorite parts from Madagascar 3, actually!!

Niki reply Replies: 1 || 2012-05-21 22:02:13
Wow...Zimmer wrote this score in only 16 days!


T-Mann0362012-05-22 06:23:03
Hans have really broken the record for writing the film score.

Trent Easton Navarro reply Replies: 0 || 2012-04-22 08:25:09
Ah yes, from the days when Zimmer still wrote good scores. Really excellent stuff! Reminded why I used to love Zimmer's stuff

fabien reply Replies: 2 || 2012-03-20 17:23:38
listen at store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7430/.f


Aggelos2012-03-28 08:46:41
Shit da White Fang!?....Shit da White Fang!?....Shit da White Fang!?.... Shit da White Fang!?....


Aggelos2012-03-28 11:32:25
Fabien@, are aware of the Fabien Sevitzky orchestral transcriptions? He has orchestrated quite a lot of works to be candour...

Kusi reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-27 11:44:15
A classic Zimmer-score! Got it today and listened already twice to it :) Highly recommended!

Mr. Charles reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-20 23:50:08
Holy shit! I remember this movie from when I was a kid! I didn't know Basil Poledouris and Hans Zimmer did it! I am highly anticipating this =)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-20 20:19:19
Holy sh...!!!!! this is awesome

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-20 18:58:37
Wow, great!

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-20 17:10:33
Available now ! :)

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