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Haha!  Wear the mask. how fitting.yap. and all of the alternates :PI want that "Final Confrontation" cue so much!Most of them are done actually and should have been released a while ago !Hybrid why is HZ scoring so many films lately, has he placed a bet with himself or something? lol<br><br>Looking forward to it. Boss Baby was a really fun score.
I'm confident he would care. Not saying he has any control over it. <br>I don't think Mondo should be making any money from this release. It ought to be canceled and removed from their website. <br><br>It's more than just a tempo issue. The tone is entirely off, and parts that were once pleasing to hear, now sound awful to my ears.<br><br>Seems Mondo is lacking the proper quality control. Hopefully this is a wake up call for them. If enough people avoid buying this album or return it, they'll get the message. I like to see capitalism work properly. <br>Maybe Pope is involved.Great news! The first one is fun, not Zimmer’s best animated score imo but it’s still pretty enjoyable. I almost wish they got Conrad Pope involved again, “Love” is one of the most beautiful cues of the past few years.The first one was quite pretty good.We knew Steve would return for quite some time, but I was surprised Hans would actually return too. But he's very involved with that one.
Who is Hans Zimmerman?i want it so much <3I guess it's only fair that they do shoulder the blame, considering again that releases like these aren't really the norm for them. I still wouldn't expect a recall and replacement, since it'd be a lot of money down the drain there. Their loss ultimately at the end of the day.<br><br>A bit disappointed about the content being the exact same as the leak, as I would've liked some of the film edits or at least the alt mixes I've seen pop up. I guess I'll just have to hope Disney does end up cooperating with LLL sooner than later.You gotta realize one thing, most of the time, Hans doesn't even know about these releases (and honestly I think he doesn't care). Only a few labels like LLL play ball and have him involved (but as Hans doesn't own most of his music, they have no other reason than courtesy to do so).<br><br>As for MI2, people who complained about the "content" instead of the tech aspect of it were goddamn wrong. Yes, the film mixes / OST mixes are pretty different. Because you have suites & sometimes material specifically arranged for the album or alternate cues.<br><br>Mondo having released the final mixes (and I know what Paramount provided them, it's just exactly the same 2 CD set copy that leaked years ago), I have no problem if the content is different.<br><br>And that's the topic on which they answered, James. Technically, they're not wrong, but they are ditching the REAL problem, for which they are responsible for ! The speed issue is on them, not on what they got.Considering the recent issues with the isolated score on Days of Thunder's 4K release sounding very inconsistent, I do wonder if Paramount has simply been poor in preserving stuff. Especially when they mention the studio and not the record label, which might've had a better copy on hand (they did finally put the OST on digital recently, after all).<br><br>I am not going to hold Mondo responsible for this, especially considering they normally do just press the regular OSTs onto LPs. I don't expect them to be fully privy to if a score sounds fine or not, since they're often just given the stuff prepared for them. Besides, repressing records would be a super expensive ordeal, especially with how limited they're often designed to be now.<br><br>And honestly: since no one has made the comparison to Sherlock 2 yet, how bad sounding is it really? I'd much rather it be slightly off than it being complete trash like the Perseverance release of Rain Man was. If HZ was able to let that slide once, then he won't be so worked up over a small tempo issue.
So this is what Mondo had to say about their massive screw up. I've never heard something so stupid in my life. If I had a direct line to Hans Zimmerman himself I'd call him about this. I'm sure he would be interested to know they butchered his album. <br><br>"Hi James,<br><br>I talked with the soundtracks department and here's what they had to say:<br><br>We’ve been made aware of a discrepancy between how the audio sounds on our album versus how it was previously released in original releases.<br><br>Our masters came directly from the studio and from original recording sessions, and we did not do any adjustments to the masters in post other than standard vinyl mastering process. But it seems any previous post production on those original releases, and cues used in the film itself, are absent from our release and may account for the differences you notice.<br><br>We currently do not have any plans on remastering the score."<br>Great. Thx.<br><br>Score has much similarities with Sherlock, so there is many of Lorne's cues...Known credits are Runaway Train for Mazzaro (was on his website), for Andrew K : The Rangers, Cannibal, Dead Rangers & Finish Him (on his Soundcloud). Geoff is the only guy with Ann Marie Simpson that got the privilege of cuesheet credit.
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<br>Battle of Aughrim arrangement (so everything lifted from "Silver") is Hans & Ann Marie.
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<br>Geoff did a good part of the score, every other classical pieces arrangements are his (so, everywhere the William Tell Overture appears). Train Chase, the End Credits, This Is A Robbery.
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<br>The stuff that sounds more or less like Sherlock have definitely Lorne. And I suspect a bit more epic drama have RGW.Hello there!<br>Hybrid, do we have some composer's credits on this score?<br>Or this is situation like on Transformers score?<br><br>Somewhere I read that Geoff Zanelli helped Hans on Train Chase (pts 1&2), Mazzaro did Runaway Train and Kawczynski did like 2 or 3 tracks (the rangers, finish him). Is that correct?<br><br>btw good score, not genius, but pretty good action score.<br><br>Made in Italy<br><br>Beautiful new score by Alex Belcher, check it out!
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Additional Music - Conductor - Orchestrator
Hans ZimmerShirley WalkerFiachra TrenchJohn Powell
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional MusicMusic Programmer
White Fang
Label: Intrada
Length: 119'13
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CD1 - MUSIC BY BASIL POLEDOURIS
  1. Main Title & Opening Credits (3:32)
  2. Golden Staircase (2:03)
  3. The Place (2:34)
  4. Death Of Kiche (2:08)
  5. Death Of Kiche (Revised) (1:14)
  6. Wolf Dance (6:48)
  7. Wolf Dance (Revised) (1:55)
  8. Slow Motion Wolves (1:15)
  9. Puppy Things (2:31)
  10. Fang On Sled (0:32)
  11. The River (1:42)
  12. The Bear Attack (3:14)
  13. The Cabin (2:14)
  14. The Cabin (Revised) (0:24)
  15. Mining Montage (0:47)
  16. Pit Fight (1:36)
  17. Jack Bit (2:51)
  18. Bonding (2:11)
  19. Just Friends (1:07)
  20. Gold Test (1:15)
  21. Fang's Revenge (1:10)
  22. Jack And White Fang (1:04)
  23. Jack Forces Fang Away (1:57)
  24. The Return (3:06)
  25. End Credits (3:51)
  26. Saloon Source (1:24)
  27. Saloon Source (Alternate) (1:19)
  28. Saloon Source #2 (1:37)
  29. Saloon Source #2 (Alternate) (1:32)
  30. Sweet Betsy From Pike (1:36)
CD2 - MUSIC BY HANS ZIMMER
  1. Opening Credits - Main Title (4:18)
  2. The Staircase (2:26)
  3. The Trek Continues (1:51)
  4. Black Wolf (8:31)
  5. Full Moon Wolf Attack (1:20)
  6. Kiche's Demise (9:40)
  7. Seasons Pass (4:23)
  8. The Bear Attack (2:38)
  9. The Mine (7:34)
  10. Fang With Jack (3:20)
  11. Vengeance Fulfilled (2:51)
  12. Home Again (8:16)
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David reply Replies: 2 || 2019-09-16 01:46:17
Hey hybrid soldier! You mentioned on the ghost in the shell page about white fang so I came here! Can you give us a list of the cues as they appear in the film please? The Basil Poledouris cues and the Hans Zimmer cues please


Hybrid Soldier2019-09-16 01:55:03
The Hans cues used are :

1M1 OPENING CREDITS / MAIN TITLE (USED FROM 2:18 TO 3:03)
1M2 GOLDEN STAIRCASE (USED FROM 0:00 TO 1:56)
2M2 JACK SEES WOLVES
2M3 BLACK WOLF
2M6 THE TREK CONTINUES (USED FROM 0:28 TO 1:15)
3M1 THIN ICE
3M2 SKUNKER'S DEATH
3M3 FULL MOON WOLF ATTACK
3M3A MORNING WOLF ATTACK
6M4 THE BEAR
6M4A THE BEAR ATTACK
7M3 IN THE STABLE
7M5 WHITE FANG FIGHTS SATAN
8M1 FIGHT MONTAGE (FIRST HALF USED)
8M3 PIT FIGHT (FINAL 20 SEC USED)

All the rest, by definition, is Basil's score...


David2019-09-16 02:03:30
Cool thanks for getting back! I am still a little bit confused though. Do any Basil Poledouris cues go somewhere in that list? It’s been a very very long time since I have seen the film.

Michael Poleschuck reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-16 10:13:13
Wow! How did John Powell involved in this project? And did he something significant here in synthesizers programming?

Ds reply Replies: 10 || 2016-04-28 23:02:26
I'm listening to that score for the first time, have to say I'm impressed. I didn't realize how quick Zimmer established himself in Hollywood (although I was just born, maybe it explains why).

Barely 3 years after "Rain Man" he was already doing big movie scores like this one or Backdraft the same year. As well as two scores for Ridley Scott, and one for his brother Tony. I can't think of a single composer who managed to climb at the top so quickly.


Hybrid Soldier2016-04-28 23:18:04
Wow first time ? :)

There's some POTC 3 & Spirit lost in this !


Edmund Meinerts2016-04-28 23:18:34
I can: Junkie XL. Make of that what you will... :|

This is an okay score but I don't find it to be as engaging or catchy or involving as other Zimmer scores from around the same period, like Days of Thunder or K2 (let alone Backdraft or the awesome A League of Their Own).


Hybrid Soldier2016-04-28 23:21:57
HGW climbed quite fast too ! ;)

Oh btw speaking of K2, I want to set something straight. HZ's score for that one was done in 1992. The film originally came out in 1991 with the first score and it was decided to rescore it for Europe (and not the other way around). So Hans did it with Nick, who only joined Media Ventures in 1992 (and his first work was on Toys).


Edmund Meinerts2016-04-28 23:32:21
There's quite a few, really. I mean, David Arnold totally came out of nowhere in the mid-90s (and has since returned to nowhere, sadly). Danny Elfman's rise around the same time as Zimmer's was just as meteoric.

I'm not actually so sure about HGW, for that matter. He didn't get any really big assignments on his own until arguably Spy Game in 2001; he did a lot of collaborative work before then but usually played second fiddle to someone else (Rabin or Powell or Hans himself). Mark Mancina might be a better example for MV, coming out of pretty much nowhere to do a huge action movie like Speed. Or even Powell himself: Face/Off is a hell of a big movie to debut on!


Joshua2016-04-28 23:55:46
So what is the story with this score. Was Hans brought in to save the day here? Did they leave Basils name because of his main theme?


Ds2016-04-29 00:03:11
I guess the MV formula worked really well for those guys... Powell, Mancina, HGW, what a dream team! But in Zimmer's case I find it even more impressive, because he started the whole thing himself, without this kind of studio to get him visibility (as far as I know, at least).

As for Junkie XL... for reasons you probably know, I think he's a totally different story (and with much less merits).

Next ones I've got to discover: K2 and A League of their own. As you probably guessed, I'm back in full fanboy-mode, I'm tired of waiting for new HZ releases and for the final concert, so I'm digging into the past! :-p


Edmund Meinerts2016-04-29 00:07:54
As I understand it, the filmmakers pushed hard to get a more contemporary sound to the score, and while Basil Poledouris is no slouch at that kind of thing (just listen to his Wind score, which is amazing), I guess they ultimately ended up "soft rejecting" what he wrote and got Zimmer to come in and stop the gaps. I've never seen the movie, but from what I've read, it uses portions of both scores; mostly Poledouris for the themes and Zimmer for the action music.

It certainly sounds like a weird situation!

(Oh, and by the way, the sequel score for White Fang 2: Myth of the White Wolf, an early-career effort by John Debney, is really good! Better than either the Poledouris or the Zimmer.)


Edmund Meinerts2016-04-29 00:12:37
Even Zimmer kind of got his start off the back of Stanley Meyers, admittedly. It's how he nabbed all those little British drama movies in the late 80s like My Beautiful Launderette and The Fruit Machine. But yeah, Junkie XL is a totally different story.

Dude, A League of Their Own will blow your mind. It's like absolutely nothing else in Zimmer's career - okay, the dramatic material and themes sound like him, but the game music is this crazy, complex, energetic big-band jazz stuff which is just so much fun to listen to. Think The Incredibles on steroids. It's my favorite early Zimmer score!


Ds2016-04-29 00:23:00
Haha Edmund you make me really curious! Just managed to get my hand on A League of their own, I'll let you know what I think!

As for K2, I can't find it anywhere. It's not on iTunes (in Europe at least), it's not for download on amazon, nowhere at all. If you have a tip, please let me know :-)


Ds2016-04-29 17:34:48
Edmund, I really love that soundtrack! Very reminiscent of some of my favorite parts from Madagascar 3, actually!!

Niki reply Replies: 1 || 2012-05-21 22:02:13
Wow...Zimmer wrote this score in only 16 days!


T-Mann0362012-05-22 06:23:03
Hans have really broken the record for writing the film score.

Trent Easton Navarro reply Replies: 0 || 2012-04-22 08:25:09
Ah yes, from the days when Zimmer still wrote good scores. Really excellent stuff! Reminded why I used to love Zimmer's stuff

fabien reply Replies: 2 || 2012-03-20 17:23:38
listen at store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7430/.f


Aggelos2012-03-28 08:46:41
Shit da White Fang!?....Shit da White Fang!?....Shit da White Fang!?.... Shit da White Fang!?....


Aggelos2012-03-28 11:32:25
Fabien@, are aware of the Fabien Sevitzky orchestral transcriptions? He has orchestrated quite a lot of works to be candour...

Kusi reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-27 11:44:15
A classic Zimmer-score! Got it today and listened already twice to it :) Highly recommended!

Mr. Charles reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-20 23:50:08
Holy shit! I remember this movie from when I was a kid! I didn't know Basil Poledouris and Hans Zimmer did it! I am highly anticipating this =)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-20 20:19:19
Holy sh...!!!!! this is awesome

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-20 18:58:37
Wow, great!

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-20 17:10:33
Available now ! :)

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