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One of this score's best and most underrated moments, especially in the context of the film, is the introduction of the Kraken's theme in "Row to Tia Dalma". The tense buildup while Gibbs describes the creature's horrors, then the brief pause as he names it, followed by the theme in the absolute lowest registers of the orchestra, quiet, but so so so menacing and also just SUPER FUCKING COOL.<br><br>It gives me goosebumps every time, in a *dialogue scene*. That is incredibly good musical storytelling.Edmund: And posted their one-sentence review of it on the Hans Zimmer fan site.Anything missed from the official release?oh damn really? huh that would be cool. even with the ultimate edition there’s still deleted scenes and I wish they were put on the Blu ray.<br><br>it plays during the scene after the knightmare when Clark is looking through the polaroids that say judge jury executioner on them. i don’t remember if that’s an extended scene or not as I’ve only seen the theatrical cut once in theaters. one and done lol"Chicken Run really makes you FEEL like you're in a concentration camp." - IGN
I guess it comes from a deleted scene where Jesse Eisenberg gets playful with his dinner. Rumor has it it's gonna be included in the Snyder Cut.I love the notion of Barack Obama and IGN teaming up to review 20 year old film scores.Smoothly done soundtrack. IGN - 10/10what the hell is Quaker steak and lube????I disagree on Catwoman. I love Zimmer's theme and I thought it is one of his most underrated themes.
Loved the new tracks!<br><br>Hans & Chris really did something special.<br><br>I enjoyed the Tenet score, but honestly Ludwig's work doesn't compare to Zimmer's. I just hope they work together again instead of Chris choosing Ludwig as his main collaborator from now on.Agreed.<br><br>I don’t know, TDKR feels a little oppressive to me in comparison with BB and TDK , probably as a result of Nolan’s musical tastes veering away from symphonic to more abstract. Reading the new book on Nolan gives me the impression that he has a very similar approach to his music as he does his filmmaking. With that said though, TDKR is still a solid conclusion to the franchise. Bane’s theme is excellent and the culmination of the various “Bat-Themes” do feel well earned. Catwoman’s theme is solid, but for some reason is dropped from most of the movie in favor of the repeating two-note phrase.<br><br>@Moggyman<br>Honestly I feel as if JNH’s work on the first two Hunger Games sequels showed a strong improvement in writing and theme building. The last score was a bit too much of a pastiche, but orchestrally a stronger fit than the first one. And “Crimes of Grindelwald” is easily one of the best sequel scores in the past few years (alongside Star Wars and HTTYD). Unfortunately we still don’t have a good album situation for that though. -_-Counterpoint: I liked Crimes of Grindelwald more than the first Fantastic Beasts. And forget Hanging Tree - "Air Raid Drill" from the first and "Sewer Attack" from the second Mockingjay are the best cues from that series. Plus, JNH honestly hasn't worked on that many sequels so we don't really have enough to go on here. <br><br>I think having JNH on board for Catwoman would have done wonders for this score. Hans' theme is okay, but feels like a bit of an afterthought compared to Bane.TDK & TDKR have amazing theme suites.<br><br>But as for the scores in film, they don't even get close to Batman Begins !I like Tom but idk he's gone downhill in my book. Alita was boring, i was over the moon excited for Terminator cause that was a perfect mix and it was disappointed big time. I'd love to hear Steve Jablonsky tackle that and get back to being as great as he used to, he has been phoning it in big time lately
Ok, before I eat my words, JNH did create the Hanging Tree in Mockingjay p1 which was good, but nothing else other than that in the sequels.For being the so called "weakest", it's very good. And if you think that Bane's theme is repetitive, I would say the same about the Joker's theme in TDK (to me they are both good though). <br><br>Now in all fairness, JNH could have probably added good material to the score since he's a genius, but I personally think he doesn't do well on sequels. Sure, in TDK he gave harvey dent a theme that resonated with his character (but was similar to material already used in BB). Yet, if you look at his work in the hunger games, its seems to me that he couldn't bring something both new and compelling to the sequels as he did in the first movie. I will agree with you that Batman Begins has the best music of the series though.After re-listening to this one, it's clearly the weakest of the trilogy. Of course it's not bad, the new themes are pretty good (though I think Bane's theme is a bit too repetitive and dry at times), there's still emotional moments, but JNH's absence really left a hole in this score.<br><br>I get to an extent that's the point, that all of Bruce's potential for a happy life is gone, but even the emotional tracks to me have nowhere near the emotional resonance that JNH's themes brought to the films. <br><br>"Come With Me" is the best example, where the slow emotional Selina Kyle chords just don't leave much of an impact. Definitely could have used JNH's "Courthouse Pt. 1" or the main theme from "Bruce Left For Dead" to emphasize Bruce's giving up of a quiet life. <br><br>Of course I still appreciate the way the 2 note motif is developed into a theme of its own, as well as the score as a whole, but then you get tracks like "Many Forms of Immortality" which just emphasize how much more effective the thematic work in Batman Begins was.It could also be Tom, who worked on Run All Night, and is already an established DC composer<br>Either way I'll be happyI lowkey think James is gonna score the Black Adam movie. it's the same director from Jungle Cruise so I'm sure he'll be brought along for it
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  1. Transformers Prime (3:22)
  2. Optimus Prime Returns (2:07)
  3. One Shall Rise (2:43)
  4. Dreadwing (1:41)
  5. In Defense Of Humanity (2:26)
  6. We Have Returned (4:42)
  7. Relentless Pursuit (4:36)
  8. This Is Your Home Now (5:02)
  9. Autobot Stratagum (2:38)
  10. Battle In The Energon Mine (3:12)
  11. Proximity Sensors (2:17)
  12. Cutting It A Bit Close (1:28)
  13. The Cons Are Back (4:46)
  14. RC On The Move (2:02)
  15. Always Welcome (2:11)
  16. Arachnid (4:10)
  17. The Space Bridge (1:29)
  18. Dogfight (4:52)
  19. Bumblebee (1:37)
  20. Next Day After School (1:12)
  21. Cybertron (1:31)
  22. Megatron On The Move (2:44)
  23. The Construct (2:16)
  24. Prime Finale (4:16)
  25. Transformers Prime End Title (3:05)
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Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 7 || 2013-11-02 17:19:11
Just wondering out of curiosity if the credits for these Tyler scores that use additional guys from RCP will ever be known. Like Margeson on this one and Battle: LA, or Todd Haberman on Rambo. Any clues, Hybrid?


Hybrid Soldier2013-11-02 18:32:02
No because Tyler rarely gives royalties...

A couple cues from Rambo (The Compound if my memory doesn't suck) are credited Haberman.

Matt did a LOT of the action stuff on Battle LA & Expendables 1.


Edmund Meinerts2013-11-02 18:37:33
He doesn't give royalties? Is that even legal? It would certainly explain how he's able to do so many scores in a year...sheesh.

Not surprised to hear about Margeson; Skyline sounds so much like a Tyler score it isn't even funny. :p


Hybrid Soldier2013-11-02 19:07:23
Of course it's legal...

I mean, all the credits I get are basically royalties sheets (cuesheet).

The thing is around RCP it's common to have detailed things, but they are not "forced" to do so. It's just the local culture. And it's not shared all around the non RCP guys.

I just checked Tyler's Iron Man 3 cuesheet and of course he's solo credited there. No money for Halli Cauthery, Stu Thomas, Tony Morales, Sarah Schachner or R. Lydecker... Of course they get paid (contract) when they work with him, but they won't get any other money in the future. That's the way it is...


Frank2013-11-03 02:13:44
Speaking of Tyler, am I the only one who found that the main theme of Thor The Dark Word is pretty similar to the opening title of Contender?


Mike2014-05-02 19:08:30
I did as well, Frank. That was my first thought upon hearing it.


Edmund Meinerts2014-05-02 19:15:55
The theme from Thor 2 is so derivative it's not even funny. Besides The Contender it also reminds me of Tyler's own Children of Dune...and it's based on a four-chord progression that he has used in practically every score he's ever done.


Knight2019-10-29 18:55:26
@Hybrid do you know specifically what cues Matt worked on for Battle: LA?

. reply Replies: 1 || 2012-03-31 21:22:25
matthew margeson is a additional composer! no co-composer! boa what a bad site.

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Warfighter2012-05-16 03:11:24
Very constructive post...
Maybe "All hail Megatron" for you? :D

Adam Krysinski (Soundtracks.pl) reply Replies: 3 || 2012-03-07 09:43:14
music performed by: The Slovak National Symphony Orchestra
music recorded at: Slovak Radio Concert Hall & Brian Tyler Studios
additional music: Matthew Margeson
music conducted by: Allan Wilson
music orchestrated by: Robert Elhai, Dana Niu, Pakk Hui & Brad Warnaar
scoring mixer: Jeff Biggers
musical score arrangements: Bob Lydecker
music preparation: Eric Stonerook
recording engineer: Peter Fuchs
music contractor: Paul Talkington
score coordinators: Bob Lydecker & Matthew Llewellyn


Hybrid Soldier2012-03-07 13:51:27
Actually Brian scored the first 5 episodes with help by Matt, and Matt scored the last 5 on his own... :)


Mr. Charles2012-03-07 19:12:19
So then are there credits available for who did each track Hybrid? Or is it too early?


Mr. Fate2012-03-07 21:18:47
Remember, you can find the credits just as easily as Hybrid. He gets them from ASCAP or some other site that has a similar function...At least, that's what I remember him saying elsewhere. I wouldn't think Hybrid has access to much more of that sort of info than any one of us does.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-07 01:18:23
It's about freakin' time!!!!

Mr. Charles reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-03 22:44:38
FINALLY!!!!

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