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Ha! As I always suspected, EDI's Sacrifice was co-written by an MV/RC guy. It was just too obvious...<br><br>It's weird to see BT's electronic/transe sound mixed up with a classic MV/RC sound, but I kinda like it. I admit, when I first heard the score I wasn't terribly impressed (aside from Thailand and EDI's Sacrifice), but now I'm warming up to it. The Rabin/Zimmer influence is quite obvious, so that's a good reason to give it a listen. <br><br>Come to think of it, BT needs to do a score with Junkie XL. Now THAT would be a great combo. They should team up for the next Mad Max movie. It will be a madhouse of a score. lol.Hybrid doesn't like the FYC because of how much it butchers Steve's original themes and doesn't include additional composer credits. I believe that was the reason.The FYC score was complete. And it's out since november last yearIs there a complete score out there? If not, don't be surprised there's nothing here yet. Sometimes it takes years before a complete score listing pops on this site.Why no listing here for the complete score?
Because they didn't work direcly in this score, but their material from the previous one was reused.Does anyone know why some of the composer names are in brackets? Thanks!thanks4:05 of "STEALTH" some of the best soulful action music I've heard from a Zimmer score. I wonder who wrote that particular section. This the type of stuff I would play trying to rush a pregnant woman to the hospitalIn case he's visiting this site, I wanna say 'Thank You' to Ashton Gleckman who does the 'Behind the Score' episodes on YouTube. I loved the 1-hour episode for the Transformers scores and I actually learned a lot. Very educational. I found the video by accident and now I plan on watching his other videos as well.<br><br>Job well done, my friend.
@Hybrid <br>You don't add anymore Trevor Morris things ?Probably for chronological purposes<br>even though the movie uses a shortened version of Romanian Wind at that timei saw the movie a couple of weeks ago again and the showdown in the school is very well shot and intense and trevors music is effective there. you can hear track 8 and 19 in that scene. a really good action scene.<br>===============================<br><br><br>I agree. <br><br>And I think at the end of the day the movie itself is not the type of movie that could win people over with its score. No matter how successful and popular it is and no matter how good the score is. I Am Number 4 was part of the YA craze that took over Hollywood a few years back (we all know how people feel about those movies), and even the most successful YA movies (like Twilight) are not exactly known for their scores.<br><br>People - even film critics who are supposed to talk about all aspects of the movie - were too busy talking about half-naked characters and Kristen Stewart's acting..... and completely ignoring the good work done by Alexandre Desplat.<br><br>It was pretty much the same with I Am Number Four...<br><br>It's not that Trevor created a "bad" score, it's simply a case of a nice, little score that went under the radar. No one bothered to talk about it..... Just like his score for Torque, which as far as I'm concerned is one of his best scores.I just find it odd how people gravitate to the triumphant or inspirational music first, rather than the more subtle, unique pieces.<br>===========================<br><br><br>I totally get what you're saying. I also get kinda frustrated when a "big" track overshadows an entire score. The best recent examples are IMO the Transformers scores. I don't blame folks for gravitating towards the epic sound and the power anthems, but A LOT of subtle, equally great tracks end up getting completely ignored. And just like you, they're usually my favorite tracks. <br><br>But why most people don't think like us?<br><br>The reason I think is because those "big tracks" are presented - most of the time - during the most memorable moments in those movies. They immediately get people's attention. They're stuck in their mind along with those iconic images. And I think by nature, people are more attracted to the big and "in your face". For most casual listeners the more subtle tracks work in the context of the movie and they absolutely do notice them while watching the actual film. But unlike you and I they don't feel the need to listen to them separately. They're too busy paying attention to the "big track". That goes even for some score fans.<br><br>While tracks like the Star War theme, the Indy theme, the Transformers theme, the Gladiator theme, the Godfather theme, the Armageddon theme, the Pirates theme, the Lord of the Rings theme are so big, melodic abd easily digestable that folks simply can't resist them. And when there are vocals involved as well (like Gladiator) it's even better, because people treat it as a full-blown song. An emotional song that they can listen to over and over again.<br><br>The subtle tracks simply can't win against that. Sadly....<br><br>By the way, speaking of The Island, My Name is Lincoln (as much as I like it) is not my favorite track of the score. The more subtle opening track (The Island Awaits You) and especially the Lima One Alpha theme are my personal favorite tracks. Of course, they're nowhere near My Name is Lincoln, in terms of popularity.<br>Why is Romanian Wind not sequenced after Case Re-Opened? Is not the former 7M48 and the latter 7M47?
Yeah that is true, can’t argue there lol<br><br>And is it me or does “Calypso Must Be Released” sound like Black Hawk Down?To be fair there is a lot of King Arthur in At World's End too. Just the general feeling you get from the action tracks in both scores is virtually identical. Hell, one of the main themes from King Arthur even appears when Bootstrap Bill remembers that Will is his son.@MrTweedy<br>That’s totally fine, everyone has their own favorite HZ scores, which is awesome!<br><br>It’s funny though, I feel like DMC is far more schizophrenic than AWE. Now don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love DMC. It’s the score that got me into Hans Zimmer. But still, I feel like a major part of that score is note-for-note reprises of cues/themes from COTBP. Not to mention the temp tracking of King Arthur.<br><br>AWE always felt far more original to me, especially considering that the entire tone of the music shifts from the “rock’n’roll” sound of the first two to a more traditional score (at least by Hans Zimmer standards lol)@MrTweedy<br><br>Just curious, what scores do you considered to be Zimmer's best?The Pinnacle of Hans' career?<br>Although I really like this score, I don't agree. But hey, I know it's just a matter of opinion, okay? ;)<br><br>Of course it shows Hans strengths in almost every area (action, drama, romance, comedy...) but for me it's too much of a medley of previous works, without much personality.<br>It feels a bit like a palette with too many colors. From the action sequences borrowed from Drop Zone, to the Morricone inspirations for Jack's Sequences, to Gladiator's duduk that ended up there with no real reason, to a beautiful Love Theme that brings another new shape to the sonic identity... it's like the score sometimes goes schizophrenic.<br><br>Though each individual idea is really enjoyable to listen to, I think Hans has made scores that are much more cohesive and enjoyable as a whole!
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Hans ZimmerJames Newton HowardRamin DjawadiMel Wesson
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Batman Begins (Expanded Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 177'38
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  1. Batman Titles (0:51)
  2. Young Bruce Falls (1:49)
  3. Prison Nightmare (1:01)
  4. Meeting Ducard (1:57)
  5. The Long Walk (2:19)
  6. Monastery (2:45)
  7. Father To The Rescue (2:12)
  8. Bruce’s Discomfort (0:37)
  9. Mugging (Part 1) (1:18)
  10. Mugging (Part 2) (2:50)
  11. Training (2:50)
  12. Campfire (3:27)
  13. Courthouse (Part 1) (2:39)
  14. Your System Is Broken (0:56)
  15. Meeting Falcone (3:08)
  16. Decision (2:31)
  17. Hide In The Dark (2:59)
  18. Initiation Into League (2:31)
  19. Temple Fight (4:05)
  20. Return To Gotham (0:51)
  21. Crane Warns Rachel (Part 1) (0:59)
  22. Crane Warns Rachel (Part 2) (1:14)
  23. The Bat Cave (2:57)
  24. Wayne Enterprises (1:24)
  25. Prototypes (1:41)
  26. Preparing Equipment (1:49)
  27. Why Bats (2:34)
  28. Dockyard Ambush (Part 1) (2:51)
  29. Dockyard Ambush (Part 2) (0:29)
  30. Rachel Attacked (2:24)
  31. Microwave Stolen (1:24)
  32. Meeting Rachel (1:37)
  33. Crane’s Mask (0:44)
  34. Gordon At Home (1:27)
  35. Batman On Fire (2:31)
  36. Finders Keepers (Part 1) (0:52)
  37. Finders Keepers (Part 2) (0:56)
  38. Fox Is Fired (1:11)
  39. Making Medicine (4:08)
  40. Fight In Crane’s Lab (Part 1) (4:44)
  41. Fight In Crane’s Lab (Part 2) (0:26)
  42. Fight In Crane’s Lab (Part 3) (0:45)
  43. Backup (1:34)
  44. Batmobile Chase (5:01)
  45. Rachel In Bat Cave (1:26)
  46. Your Father’s Name (0:55)
  47. Crane Interrogated (0:33)
  48. Ducard Appears (1:08)
  49. Ducard & Gotham’s Fate (3:30)
  50. Bruce Left For Dead (3:14)
  51. Antidote (3:32)
  52. Batman Arrives (2:30)
  53. Rescue Rachel (2:55)
  54. Final Confrontation (1:19)
  55. Train Fight (Part 1) (1:59)
  56. Train Fight (Part 2) (1:23)
  57. Danger Over (0:52)
  58. Surveying The Ruins (3:19)
  59. Gordon Says Thanks (1:51)
  60. End Credits (3:30)
  61. Ra’s Al Ghul Suite (7:15)
  62. Batman Theme (3:16)
  63. Prison Nightmare (Alternate Mix) (1:01)
  64. Monastery (Alternate Mix) (2:45)
  65. Father To The Rescue (Alternate Mix) (2:12)
  66. Mugging (Part 1) (Alternate Mix) (1:06)
  67. Mugging (Part 2) (Alternate Mix) (2:50)
  68. Training (Alternate Mix 1) (2:53)
  69. Training (Alternate Mix 2) (2:49)
  70. Campfire (Alternate Mix 1) (3:27)
  71. Campfire (Alternate Mix 2) (3:27)
  72. Your System Is Broken (Alternate Mix) (0:56)
  73. Meeting Falcone (Alternate Mix) (3:09)
  74. Decision (Alternate Mix) (2:31)
  75. Crane Warns Rachel (Part 1) (Alternate Mix) (0:58)
  76. Crane Warns Rachel (Part 2) (Alternate Mix) (1:14)
  77. Preparing Equipment (Alternate Mix) (1:54)
  78. Why Bats? (Alternate) (2:33)
  79. Batman On Fire (Alternate) (2:28)
  80. Batmobile Chase (Alternate Mix) (4:51)
  81. Gordon Says Thanks (Alternate Mix) (1:51)
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Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-08 21:17:51
If the King Kong Recording Sessions are real than is there any possibilty of that leaking? That score is one of the most wanted complete editions on my list.

Batman Theme reply Replies: 10 || 2011-04-27 21:43:15
i hope that this here will be released or leaked some how, but is it possible to post here the "Batman Theme" in full until it will be available?


Agent Smith2011-04-27 21:45:20
hell yes, or in the webradio??


Anonymous2011-05-07 15:29:53
Just curious: Is there any way there could be a "King Kong Complete Recording Sessions" by James Newton Howard? The KONG score is one of those complete scores that I would like to have.


FS2011-05-07 16:58:39
yes there are recording sessions leaked (to a small group of persons) for king kong. It has 99 tracks including a thank you speech from james newton howard. A tracklist was already posted somewhere..


yo2011-05-07 17:40:21
the batman theme isnt anything new, its starts with the music when rachel leaves after giving bruce his birthday gift and then continues with second half of the end credits, thats it. just rip the end credits and ul have the batman theme


Anonymous2011-05-07 19:26:25
Not exactly true, its a new track and not a Hybrid. Furthermore either of the two cues you mention are on the OST


Dakota2011-05-07 19:52:34
Ommmm.....can we discuss this "99-track King Kong Recording Sessions" please?!?! I am shocked that nothing to this extent has been released yet. 99 tracks seems a bit steep, but sounds awesome


Hybrid Soldier2011-05-07 19:57:02
And it's totally real... ;)


FS2011-05-07 20:58:17
it is real:

01. 1M1 King Kong MT
02. 1M1 King Kong MT alt
03. 1M1S Song lntro
04. 1M2 Ann & Manny
05. 1M3 Ann & Weston
06. 1M4 Viewing Footage
07. 1M5 The Map
08. 1M6 Carl Steals Footage
09. 1M6 Carl Steals Footage TK 11
10. 1M6 Carl Steals Footage TK 14
11. 1M6 Carl Steals Footage TK 25
12. 1 M7 Carl Finds Ann
13. 2M1 Carl Convinces Ann
14. 2M2 Venture
15. 2M2V6ALT Venture
16. 2M2V7 Venture
17. 2M4 Delaying Jack
16. 2M4A Predelaying Jack
19. 2M5 Boat Leaves Harbour
20. 2M6A Bruce Hangs Poster
21. 2M6B Jimmy
22. 2M7 Ann Rehearses in Mirror
23. 2M6A Ann Meets Jack
24. 2M6B Bruce & Jimmy
25. 2M9 Jimmy 0verhears
26. 2M10 Filming on the Boat
27. 2M10 TK 279 Filming on the Boat
28. 2M10 TK 281 Filming on the Boat
29. 3M1 The Crew is Nervous
30. 3M2 Montage
31. 3M3 There Are No Stars
32. 3M4 Wall
33. 3M5A Breach
34. 3M5B Skull lsland
35. 3M5BALT Skull lsland
36. 3M5BALT2 Skull lsland
37. 3M6 The Village
38. 4M1 The Natives
39. 4M2 The Fight
40. 4M3A Saved By The Crew
41. 4M3B Ann is Kidnapped
42. 4M4 Sacrifice pt1
43. 4M5 Arming the Crew
44. 4M6 Sacrifice pt2
45. 4M7 Kong Appears
46. 4M6 Trek to Save Ann
47. 4M9 Kong Buns
48 4M10 Crew in Boneyard
49. 5M1 Footprint
50. 5M2 Stampede
51. 5M3 Baptors
52. 5M4 Heroes Don't Look Like Me
53. 5M5ATK676 Ann Tries to Escape
54. 5M5AV16 Ann Tries to Escape
55. 5M5AV18 Ann Tries to Escape
56. 5M5B Buins
57. 5M6 Crew Finds Kong-Log
57. 5M8 Crew Finds Kong-Log
58. 8M1 Lizards
59. 8M2 T Bex & Ann
60. 8M3 T Bex & Kong Fight
61. 8M4 Vines
62. 8M5 Jawbreaker
63. 8M8 Dead Crew Members
64. 8M7 Beautiful
65. 7M1 Carl Gets Idea
66. 7M3 In Kongs Arms
67. 7M4 Jack in Graveyard
68. 7M5 Kong Awakes-Bats
69. 7M8 Chases Ann & Jack
70. 7M8A Ann Walks Thru the Gate
71. 7M7A Now
72. 7M7B To the Boats
73. 7M8 Chloroform
74. 7M8 Theater
75. 7M8A You're Writing a Comedy
78. 7M10V3 Jack Fieflects
77. 7M10V4 Jack Fieflects
78. 8M1 Beauty Stayed His Hand
79. 8M1ALT Beauty Stayed His Hand
80. 8M3 Kong Sees Jack
81. 8M4 Kong Chases Jack
82. 8M5 Macy's half strgs
83. 8M5 Macy's smaII
84. 8M8 Army Attacks
85. 8M7 Climbs Empire State BIdg
86. 8MS1 Steiner V1
87. 8MS1 Steiner V2
88. 8MS1 Steiner V3
89. 8MS1 Steiner V4
90. 8MS2 Steiner
91. 8MS3 Steiner
92. 8MS4 Steiner
93. 8MS5 Steiner
94. 8MS6 Steiner
95. 8MS8 Steiner
96. 8M1 PIanes
97. 8M2 2nd Attack
98. 8M3A Jack Enters BuiIding
99. 8M3B 3rd Attack
100. 9M3Balt 3rd Attack
101. 9M4BlG Beauty Killed the Beast
102. 9M4NWW Beauty Killed the Beast
103. 9M4W-WW Beauty Killed the Beast
104. EC Steiner Fanfare
JNH Kong Thank you speech


Dakota2011-05-07 21:43:08
Holy Sh** for real?! Damn! Hybrid if this is legit why isn't it on the site? Only the commercial release is lested on here. Wow,I would LOVE to have this.......


Hybrid Soldier2011-05-08 09:35:46
Yeah JNH's disco needs serious work... :S

john reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-24 11:32:36
come on! release it in some way! Pleaaase!

Tim reply Replies: 1 || 2011-04-13 00:00:00
did anyone notice the Harvey Dent theme playing when Bruce opens the "bat closet"^^ in his bat cave after the numerous times mentioned finders keepers scene?


Anonymous2011-04-24 10:11:19
It also played when he was lifting ducard from the cliff

HZLeaks reply Replies: 3 || 2011-04-22 07:32:51
Whats the Batman theme on disk 3?


vdwebb2011-04-22 19:18:45
From what I gathered from the MP3 extract, it was used in the end credits, at the last two minutes or so.


HZLeaks2011-04-22 20:02:19
Its sounds different to me, a little rough, almost like a demo


Jaynufire2011-04-22 20:27:26
the second half of the track is used as the last 2 minutes of the end credits. However this theme has popped up in a couple Batman Begins special features...

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-21 00:00:00
I have a 42 track expanded score but some of the tracks are fan edited and some have sfx in them. I would like to have this b/c I get to listen to the real deal without any crappy fan edits with sfx or dilogs in them and hearing some newer material would be cool too.

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-14 00:00:00
Whoever has this decides when it's leaked, not time. It's like since TDK leaked, you guys seem to think this will. Hybrid was right, nobody can be happy. Sure, I love this music but I could certainly live without Batman Begins. Between the commercial and expanded releases, (and TDK complete, since almost everyone has it now) I'll be alright.

kakashi reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-14 00:00:00
Hybrid

You just gave me another HEART ATTACK, PLEASE KEEP EM COMING :)

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-14 00:00:00
I think I'm gonna have a heart attack!!!!

Hale reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-13 00:00:00
Hahaha .. Hybrid! Stop to do rage them!!

But this expanded release is really exciting. :)
Is there the cue when "Wayne" is going to his batcave (i think its just after "Finder Keepers"scene)
I think its the best cue which was missing.

Al reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-13 00:00:00
Hey, can someone tell me the source of the album artwork?

thanks

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-13 00:00:00
When did this come out and is this somewhere to be found?

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-13 00:00:00
It was up and added after the sudden leak of The Dark Knight complete. I first noticed it yesterday

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-13 00:00:00
So is this a real legit recording session complete score or just some really long expanded edition?

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-13 00:00:00
Not sure. Read Hyrbid's comments below. I think it's pretty much complete, but missing like 2 or 3 cues? I think that's what he said.............

Uga reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-13 00:00:00
It seems like everything is there

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-13 00:00:00
Just look for the discussion between Hybrid and Takehiro below. There a few cues missing.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-13 00:00:00
So August then.

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-13 00:00:00
Well, well Hybrid. You have busy days with the updates. :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-13 00:00:00
@Hale, it is Finders Keepers (Part 2).

@Al, the cover was design by a friend of mine ! :)

Hale reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-13 00:00:00
Yes i noticed that but i prefer the "Batman Begins " version (more epic!)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-13 00:00:00
When does anything think this will possibly leak?

Uga reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-13 00:00:00
3 to 4 months

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
How would I know Take ? They're just not there... Can't say why those particular ones...

Takehiro reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
I thought you'd know cos you're apparently close to RCP...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
Yeah but that doesn't mean I'm the source... The stuff arrived that way, that's it... :P

Paul reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
Is this one out there????????

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
Ra's Al Ghul Suite is Lasiurus, actually.

Gavin Salkeld - Composer reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-11 00:00:00
The cue sheet lists 7 pieces for the end credits. Which pieces were used on this to make up the 3:30 runtime? Hybrid, did you do this editing of the end credits yourself?

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