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I'm so mad at DC right now I'd rather promote Marvel !! lol<br><br><br>Well jokes aside I add cause Andrew worked on it. And btw he posted another 5 min cue on his Soundcloud, dunno if it's unreleased, there'll better specialists of that score than me !Yeah, I happen to have seen the film and the score is not really "coherent", it's more like many different cues put together...Okay, thanks for clearing that up. The Tracks released were kind of interesting, a kind of mix of soundsAnyone else think Hans knew about all the studio meddling during pre-production, the rewrites etc and walked away ? I mean, when I heard Elfman's score I thought it was generic and wouldn't fit the movie. Then I watched the movie and it fits well. The movie is just as bland as the music in the background.I don't have to ask, that movie was a failure that barely got distributed... No one had any interest in releasing this score...
Hybrid, did you ever ask Hans why this score wasn't released?After watching the movie, I just have to say it was okay. It had some great moments but for me it had also many problems. And one of them was the music. For most of the part it wasn't even noticeable and when it was, it was like random background music with no really emotion or heart.<br><br>BvS and MoS movies can be criticized for some things but the score is not one of them. The movie gave the movie a strong and powerful side, as well as a heart and emotion into it. In this movie there were so many moments that needed different score. <br>***SPOILERS***<br>Superman's resurrection needed the MoS in full epic form. Wonder Woman at the bank at the beggining needed her theme with the electric cello in full power.<br>The Batman theme at the beginning when he is after that Parademon.<br>We should have a really memorable theme for the whole Justice League as well as for each individual member.<br>The scenes with Clark and Lois at the house in Kansas and when his mother sees him, this needed the piano theme from This Is Clark kent or something like that.<br>And that final moments with Superman opening his shirt showing the Superman logo and then flying to the sky, we needed something like "What Are You Going To Do When You're Not Saving The World?" or "Flight" and not that unmemorable music we got.<br><br>I really hope that the petition of the Extended Cut of the movie made by Zack with Junkie's music gets to be released someday, but for now, I'm disappointed.Sounds fun!!<br>Thanks for the linkAny ideas on the Chronological Order of the Tracks?<br>I made a start here...<br><br><br>Logos<br>Batman On The Roof<br>Everybody Knows - Titles<br>Wonder Woman Rescue<br><br>...<br>Icky Thump<br>Aquaman In Atlantis<br>...<br>1m1a Krypton (from Man Of Steel)<br>Spark Of The Flash<br>Friends And Foes<br>...<br>Come Together - Credits<br>Anti-Hero Theme - CreditsNo, they are the full score cues- as presented in the film. The presentation of the final three tracks on the first disc are edited down for timing.
* I posted this at filmtracks and wanted to share it here as well. <br><br>Danny Elfman's comments are very disrespectful and so disappointing for a creative person to hear, especially for composers. Nostalgia is a big problem with Hollywood and it's a simple Jedi mind trick. It's slightly different, but the same meal over and over with different seasoning. Imagine if James Horner didn't get to write the score he wanted for Spider-Man? Or Zimmer had to use Elfmans Batman theme for the DK triliolgy or BvS? Or Shirley Walkers incredible Batman theme for Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Or Giacchino just used the original star trek theme, or the original Star Wars themes for Rogue One and created nothing new at all? How boring and uninspiring for the composers not being able to challenge themselves to create new original music.<br><br>Whether you like these scores or not isn't important, the pursuit to create something new is what drives a creative person and gives us freedom in choosing something to enjoy and not enjoy. I love the original Batman theme by Elfman but I love it in the Burton films. I love Zimmer scores for both the DK trilogy and BvS. I am happy I can enjoy both types of scores and films but there are those who don't and that's a great thing because that means we are not all the same and that brings variety of opinion and taste which creates real conversation and most importantly gives an identity to a project.<br><br>It's easy to go back to original ideas, but I respect the creators who actually take the risk and want to try and do something new. If Danny Elfman stands by his words he should have just used the original Batman theme from the Tv Show and film or the original Spider-Man theme. Oops he didn't and we got a whole new Batman theme and Spider-man theme which most of us love. Thank god he didn't stick to using the original themes. The Batman reboots and superman and Spider-man reboots are completely different takes on the characters and that's why they deserve their own new themes and soundscapes. The only time I think an original theme from a film should be used in a new film with the same characters is if it's actually a sequel or prequel connected to that actual original film. Re-boots should always have new original music.<br><br>In the end the comments from Elfman are simply stupid and uninspiring and it's definitely a hidden ego coming through I never new he had which is a shame. I remember what Zimmer said about Danny Elfman's Batman theme being a bit jolly, but that's not attacking Elfman at all, it's how he felt and heard the music and felt that that style wouldn't fit in the new batman films ect.. I have always found the original Batman theme a bit on the jolly side too and I love it because it nails Burton's take on the character and world. That theme is for Keaton's Batman, no one else's.<br><br>One final point, if we keep wanting to just revisit the past and hear and see the same thing over and over and not be challenged with new ideas, what a damn uninspiring and boring world of creativity we will live in.<br><br>All the best to you all!<br><br>so...based on what junkie says here, Elfman is basically just rehashing old shit, as well as other people's old shit....Unless you want to say he's taking his Batman theme into a whole different direction that he didn't really have a desire to do before...until now....<br><br>In that case, "whatever" is all I have to say.Nice stuff! I still can't believe this score hasn't gotten a release.That's unfortunate. With this score, I think it's obvious that the majority is Jablonsky, as it has a ton of elements from scores he's composed exclusively, but it would still be nice to know who did what, especially with the first and second films. Not sure why there's rarely any proper additional music credits for a lot of the RCP guys, especially considering Zimmer's credits are almost always complete. <br><br>However that cuesheet of the extended score is very interesting. Hopefully if it leaks, all those cues remain there.Damn that sounds different from Elfman's comments
The funny thing is an interview he gave 1 months before being replaced... Saying pretty much the opposite of Elfman !<br><br>"Itís a massive undertaking. And I canít say anything about Justice League specifically, but Iíll tell you this, and this was exactly the same experience that Hans and I had when we did work together on Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Itís like when you see a movie like that, these iconic superhero movies, some of them have a 60 to 80 year legacy, multiple composers had a go at their themes, multiple filmmakers did their version of these charactersóitís very scary. You watch a movie and itís like, ďHoly shit, now I have to come up with something.Ē Youíve got sweaty hands and youíre nervous, and you talk about it over and over againóand I have exactly that relationship with Zack Snyderóand then Zack said, ĒThereís only one thing you can do, and that is embrace this character as if itís your own, keep it close to your musical soul, and just do whatever you feel is the right thing to do for this character.Ē Thatís the only thing we can do. Thatís what all these great directors did back in the day, and thatís what all these great composers did back in the day. It makes no sense for me to do extensive quoting of Hansí score of the really amazing Batmans. It makes no sense for me to quote Superman from John Williams. Because all fantastic composers, they all did the same thing, they did something that was close to their heart, and I have to do exactly the same thing on this movie. You know this is Movie Number 4 that Iím doing with Zack, so you build a friendship and itís built on trust and loyalty. You know how to challenge each other, you know what to expect on the other side, and itís this really open, amazing dialogue about where to take this franchise."I can confirm that he had already worked on it quite a bit, because he said so in one of his Studio Time episodes.I wouldnít be surprised if he wrote another long sketchbook for it...I honestly have no idea... But I can't believe back in June when he left he hadn't done a bunch of the score already...The thing is with Jablonsky scores composers rarely get cuesheet credits, so you can't really draw conclusions out of it. Here's a small part of the cuesheet :<br><br>QUINTESSA PT 1<br>QUINTESSA PT 2<br>QUINTESSA PT 3 OPTIMUS REDEMPTION<br>KNIGHTED<br>WE HAVE TO GO ZERO GRAVITY<br><br>OPENING BATTLE<br>MERLIN<br>MERLIN GETS THE STAFF - BATTLE WON<br>TROUBLED TIMES<br>CADE DRIVING - AMULET<br>WE HUNT - DECEPTICONS HUNT<br>KEEP A SECRET - VIV ARRIVES CASTLE FOLGEN<br>WITWICCANS<br>ROUNDTABLE ORGAN SOURCE<br>COGMAN CHOIR<br>STAFF<br>BETTER GET CRACKING<br>PLANETARY VAMPIRISM<br>TOO OLD<br>SUBMARINE<br>TWO MOONS<br>MERLIN'S TOMB<br>SPACE STATION<br>CLAIM THE STAFF<br>SHIP RISE<br>YOUR VOICE<br>SOLDIERS TAKE POSITION - BURTON DIES<br>FALL AND GRAB<br>ENDING
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Mars Needs Moms
Label: Walt Disney Records (Digital Download Only)
Length: 49'01
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  1. Mars Observers (3:26)
  2. Abduction / Trashworld (4:48)
  3. Enjoy The Ride (1:34)
  4. Mars Needs Moms (2:08)
  5. Gribble's Plan (1:21)
  6. Milo Escapes (3:48)
  7. Gribble's Loss (3:17)
  8. Firing Squad (5:03)
  9. To The Surface (6:36)
  10. The Sacrifice (3:23)
  11. Transformation (3:47)
  12. Family Reunion (2:58)
  13. Mars Needs Moms Credits Suite (3:43)
  14. Martian Mambo (3:09)
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John Powell lover #1 reply Replies: 1 || 2016-02-18 17:37:05
This Soundtrack should be way more popular. It's so good! It's probably because they movie sucked so bad.


Edmund Meinerts2016-02-18 19:15:34
Yeah this one tends to get lost in the shuffle. A shame, it's an absolutely wonderful score.

Vahn Gharakhani reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-13 17:41:10
It was so good I burned a disc for myself!!! Made covers too? Any one want to see them???

Awsome Job JOHN!!!

Mikel Siw (a fan from Spain) reply Replies: 0 || 2011-09-18 13:18:47
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, POWELL!!!!!!!!!!!

John reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-13 00:00:00
Are there credits for this one?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-20 00:00:00
It's available (like almost all Disney digital releases) in lossless on French digital store Starzik.com ! ;)

Hypton reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-15 00:00:00
John Powell !! I love him ! :P AWESOME MUSIC !! :D

Mikel Siw (a fan from Spain) reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-12 00:00:00
Powellīs last piece is terrific!!!!! GREAT MUSIC!!!!!

Tim reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-09 00:00:00
Maybe James Newton Howard is on it, due to the fact that direcor Tony Gilroy worked with him on all his previous projects.

Thiva reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-09 00:00:00
I Just listened the mars needs moms soundtrack .It was supeb! John powell done a great job .
Who is the composer of Upcoming Bourne film?

John reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-08 00:00:00
Alan Silvestri is doing Captain America. It's been confirmed on his Facebook page.

And thank God Powell didn't do The Smurfs! He has had enough bad films on his resume, he doesn't need new ones....

Mario Soundtrack reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-07 00:00:00
I heard that John Powell was busy with the 5 Soundtracks that he had been asked to do. For that reason it has not done either Wiinie the Pooh, the Smurfs or Captain America.
Disney and DreamWorks are now struggling to John Powell.!!

Tim reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-07 00:00:00
@ *the nameless guy*:
really?! neither imdb nor giacchino's official page confirms that. well, there isn't any composer confirmed, yet. I would be as delighted if Giacchino score it as Powell would, anyway :)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-07 00:00:00
Torque, it's neither Powell or Silvestri. Michael Giacchino will score Captain America.

aldan reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-07 00:00:00
I just found this track on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCh536cpv8E

I think that was a combination of Mars Needs moms and mars needs moms credits suite. Well,although i love the main theme( you done it again powell !!), but there are still many similarities from Powell' other soundtracks that i can found.( Buck winning theme in Ice age 3( this theme can be heard clearly), Some theme from HTTYD, and Ice age 3 credits theme itself). But, still good though.

Torque reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-04 00:00:00
Andrew, Alan Silvestri will score Captain america, not Powell.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-01 00:00:00
King Powell!

aldan reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-01 00:00:00
From the sample, i can conclude that:

-Abduction/trashworld: sounded like Paycheck, Bolt, Hancock, and The bourne soundtrack.
-Enjoy the ride: sounded like a piece from ice age 3, when Buck saved Sid from lava fall.
-Mars needs moms: abstract, can't be defined.
-Gribble's plan: sounded like antz( that whistle part), paycheck, and bolt.
-Milo escapes: sounded exciting, but still has a paycheck theme in it.
-Gribble's plan: abstract, but touching.
-To the surface: Sounded like HTTYD, very much, with a little improvement in it, before it turned into that Paycheck-ish action track.
-to the sacrifice: well, good enough
-transformation: original, well done.
-mars needs moms credits suite: The best of them all. I think this is the main theme.
-martian mambo: sounded like that sid-clan song from ice age 2.

No, powell. You started to act like zimmer. But, still good nonetheless. i hope you can do better on Rio.
But, you're still the man.

MK reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-01 00:00:00
No CD?! What the...?!!!

Enrico reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-01 00:00:00
Digital Download...what a BAD thing!!! WE WANT CD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CD FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

John reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-01 00:00:00
@Aldan

The reason why it sounds similar to other Powell stuff its because this is a replacement score. Originally, Hans Zimmer was going to score the movie and he left or was rejected, so they brought in John. And I imagine that with the rush they tracked the movie with previous Powell music.

However, the quality of the orchestra sounds amazing. Can't wait!

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-01 00:00:00
John: Hans.. rejected? No way! :-)
It was announced (John Powell scoring this) a long time ago (more than half a year).

Andrew reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-01 00:00:00
I don't think Zimmer was rejected. He probably felt that this film is too similar in its musical needs to Megamind. He probably passed it to Powell.

And regarding the similar motifs. I think there is only so much innovation you can come up with, once you score a fair amount of movies of the same genre.

I cannot help but wonder what Powell would have done for a concept like Captain America...

Mikel Siw (a fan from Spain) reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-28 00:00:00
Only for digital download... no Cd for this one, right dudes??

John reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-28 00:00:00
The samples sound extremly good, particularly the string writing. However, I'm hearing too close similiarities to Hancock, Dragon and Ice Age 2.

Despite that, it sounds very very promising!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-28 00:00:00
Amazon MP3 sound samples online now.

They sound once again AMAZING!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-28 00:00:00
Happy with that ?? :P

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