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Several clips of the film are on YT. With some music. Sounds like 90's score from HZ. Too bad the directing seems to come from an age movies didn't exist...No. It’s a boys choir. S&K bros is a girl’s choirSeems like Scala & Kolacny Brothers.In what way is it "obvious", exactly, that Djawadi had more influence on that Training cue than Zimmer? It's basically just a statement of Zimmer's theme, and doesn't really sound notably "Djawadi-esque" to me in any way.Thanks for the credits update
A bit of who did what...Lorne also confirmed that he took charge of Mr.Charles, and without saying that Lorne was on the good side of Score in general, so his influence was substantially high.Hybrid confirmed that training is composed by Ramin and Hans and it is obvious that Ramin's influence is superior to that of Hans.are we expecting the score for dark phoenix to be released in a week or so, if the movie itself drops early june?Not as simply as that.... Training is Ramin's arrangement of a Hans theme, and the core of Mr. Charles when the Fischer theme isn't playing is a Hans idea, too, as far as I know. Take the Zimmer out and those moments wouldn't be the same.
I think Balfe working with Nolan would have done a great jobBob,The Training is basically Ramin Djawadi and Mr.Charles is BalfeI hope these two team up again. Zimmer's score is the main driving force for some memorable scenes. Just a few<br>Batman Begins-The Training<br>TDK- Joker crash the party, Gordon's speech and ending<br>Inception - Time, Mr.Charles, <br>TKDR - the climb, imagine the fire and orphan<br>Interstellar-Stay, Docking, coward, mountain<br>Dunkirk - well the entire movieJustin Hurwitz I can see. I enjoyed La La Land and First Man. But Both Hurwitz and Göransson are several notches above Lorne Balfe. <br><br>I think 80/100 directors would rather work with Göransson than Balfe.I really believe that Nolan has made a mistake as a composer.I think Lorne Balfe, David Julyan or Justin Hurwitz would be much better options than Ludwig Goransson.
Interesting news. <br><br>Geoff Zanelli is one of those composers who I’ve loved his additional music over his solo efforts, Pirates 5 excluded. I hope he gets a chance to write some great fantasy music for this, regardless if he reuses JNH’s themes or not.I think I am the only one, who would be glad about David Julyan return.<br><br>I really like his music for early Nolan's films, especially Insomnia, and it's what i can call an "atmospheric experience".<br><br>Don't know how his music fits for espionage timetraveling movie, but, for me, i'st would be something interesting to hear.@mpolonest123: those Pemberton scores are indeed pure gold, very cool on album but insanely good in the movie. My favorite is still his King Arthur, that was a beast of a score that stuck with the movie like glue and really enhanced Guy Ritchie's dark, twisted, trippy vision.*3 thingsSure, but there's two things to consider. <br>1). Pirates has such an iconic sound that it'd be really stupid for them to suddenly abandon it at #5. Especially when we hired the guy who has worked on the previous 4. 2). Maleficent, as successful as it was to warrant a sequel, isn't quite as well known in the score department, despite being well received by those who have heard it. 3). Because Zanelli worked on all Pirates, he had enough familiarity with the sounds and motifs that he knew where to go once he led the ship. In Maleficent's case, he's taking over from a previous composer, and is working with a director who likely only knows his work on POTC5. As such, there's no knowing yet if he might be compelled to continue on from JNH, or if it's decided he just does his own thing.<br><br>I'm happy that Geoff at the very least has a safe career at Disney, considering two of their recent live action successes has had him involved. However, considering I hear his recently work hasn't been his best, JNH likely would've benefited from returning to a world that had some of his best material after he wasn't given the opportunity to do so with Glass. As such, it really is a severely missed opportunity, even if newer blood is getting more opportunities.
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Pirates Of The Caribbean - On Stranger Tides
Label: Walt Disney Records
Length: 77'36 (Score: 45'01)
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  1. Guilty Of Being Innocent Of Being Jack Sparrow (1:42)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  2. Angelica (4:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Eduardo Cruz feat. Rodrigo Y Gabriela
  3. Mutiny (2:48) *
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  4. The Pirate That Should Not Be (3:55)
    Rodrigo Y Gabriela, Hans Zimmer
  5. Mermaids (8:05)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Eric Whitacre
  6. South Of Heaven's Chanting Mermaids (5:48)
    Rodrigo Y Gabriela, Hans Zimmer
  7. Palm Tree Escape (3:06)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli feat. Rodrigo Y Gabriela
  8. Blackbeard (5:05) *
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  9. Angry And Dead Again (5:33)
    Rodrigo Y Gabriela, Hans Zimmer
  10. On Stranger Tides (2:44)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Eric Whitacre
  11. End Credits (1:59)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  12. Guilty Of Being Innocent Of Being Jack Sparrow Remixed - DJ Earworm (2:45)
  13. Angelica (Grant Us Peace) Remixed - Ki:Theory (3:08)
  14. The Pirate That Should Not Be Remixed - Photek (6:26)
  15. Blackbeard Remixed - Super Smash Bros & Thieves (5:26)
  16. South Of Heaven's Chanting Mermaids Remixed - Paper Diamond (3:32)
  17. Palm Tree Escape Remixed - Adam Freeland (5:28)
  18. Angry And Dead Again Remixed - Static Avenger (5:49)
* Contains themes from POTC 1 written by Klaus Badelt
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Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-28 09:59:38
Half an hour of remixes, Hans you're the man !

Hale reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-28 09:18:22
I've heard extracts from Amazon and it's very sad...
Too much tracks are remixes or tracks by "Gabriela and Rodrigo"...
I hate Zimmer when I see what he does of his music!! It's condamned to be shelve OR in the ears of some lucky guys who has contact with Remote Control.. ^^

By the listening of the extracts, only track 1 and track 11 are very interesting. The reprise of the "Pirates" theme in "End Credits" is so fresh! I've never imagine this piece of music like this!

Kusi81 reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-28 08:50:16
After listening to those clips: This is one of the oddest album presentation I've ever heard... :( Those remixes are destroying the whole album..... I'd like to have more of the original soundtrack not remixes...

4loco reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-28 07:56:05
Well...Samples are up at the Amazon.com German website. I have to say I feel cheated. Seriously cheated. Zimmer's collaborations are starting to turn into a cheap way for him to get out of writing the music for the film. Reason I say this is because most of the tracks he's directly involved in are not only blatant rehashes of previous works, but they are on the lower productions scale than previously recorded. Moreover, his pieces on this cd are roughly 2 minutes apiece, while he hands the reigns over to Rodrigo and Gabriel to make 5 minute plain guitar suites, which I don't really care for all that much.

As I feared, this is a totally different sounding Pirates movie, musicwise...it actually reminds me of his sparse work in Rango, which is odd, because that work reminds me of Broken Arrow. Honestly I would rather have had rehashed score than the remixed tracks which I dont find digestible at all...Such a shame. Now we all have to wait for a hopeful DVD bootleg..."UGH" is the best I can muster right now.


Dammit..

Michael reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-28 06:40:04
"Guilty of being innocent of being Jack Sparrow" it's kind of that mixed up scentence Jack could say, haha.

And I like the new order. Mutiny shoudln't have been track 10 since that scene takes place waaaaay earlier in the film.

Micah Garnett reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-28 06:29:12
The Amazon track listing IS correct. It's the official one posted by Walt Disney.

Now we get 7 remixes. :P

Morpheus reply Replies: 2 || 2011-04-28 01:54:32
http://www.amazon.com/Pirates-Caribbean-Stranger-Hans-Zimmer /dp/B004V6MWE6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_1

why Amazon's data is 18 tracks?


Micah2011-04-28 04:05:06
Guilty of Being Innocent of Being Jack Sparrow

That's not right. :/


Micah Garnett2011-04-28 06:26:38
Hm, the track order is switched, too.

On another note, the unreleased clip does feature trumpets, and they sound pretty darn good at that.

Cobb reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-28 04:17:59
Actually, Guilty of Being Innocent of Being Jack Sparrow sounds more correct then guilty of "Not" being...

Interview with Hans reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-25 20:21:42
kcrw .com/music/programs/mb/mb110209hans_zimmer


Phil B reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-21 00:00:00
@ everyone

lets wait and see...

Tim reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-21 00:00:00
my speech! :)

Ravi Krishna reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-21 00:00:00
So, I guess it'll be 40 minutes of score and 20 minutes of those charming remixes, once again. Or even worse. Exquisite. Thanks but no thanks, Disney Records. :-/

Brent R reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-21 00:00:00
Finally, there's a tracklist! :)

1. Guilty of Not Being Jack Sparrow
2. Angelica
3. The Pirate That Should Not Be
4. On Stranger Tides
5. Palm Tree Escape
6. Angry and Dead Again
7. Blackbeard
8. Mermaids
9. South of Heaven’s Chanting Mermaids
10. Mutiny
11. End Credits
12. The Pirate That Should Not Be (Remix) [Photek]
13. Angry and Dead Again (Remix) [Static Avenger]
14. Palm Tree Escape (Remix) [Ki:Theory]
15. Angelica (Remix) [Adam Freeland]

Michael reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
Sounds great, though, I wished there were more tracks. Come on, 11? I know it's just as much as Dead Man's Chets (minus the awfull remix listed as 12). And that's what's dissapointing here too, 4 remixes to fill the cd. Anyway, I hope we soon get previews!

I was rooting for a 13-15 track cd (without remixes).

Jones reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
fair enough :p

franco reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
@tron - by the nature of the title, it seems so....We know Jack goes to London in chains, presumably on trial....You can guess where it goes from there....

TRON reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
hey if its got that supposed "london" cue like stated below, then I'm definitely good with it! :D

Sean reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
@Hybrid Soldier
What's so bad about the Remixes ?

Joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
Disney just updated there website for Stranger Tides. Theres a cue thats playing that sounds like a reworked "Hes a Pirate" intro with a little electric guitar with alittle of "What shall we die for" thrown in. Its pretty cool! http://disney.go.com/pirates/index.html#/characters/

TRON reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
can't wait! :D

franco reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
I agree with you Jones...it sounds implausible, but whatever..I'll take it for now....Right now im just hoping Zimmer pulls an Itunes exclusive extra tracks release like he did with Inception (pretty F'n please!)

franco reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
Jones.....

JONES!

You know Im all for a healthy dose of skepticism....But cmon, man...Look at the titles, look at the credits for each title. Are you gonna discredit filmmusic reporter's claim about Linkin Park's involvement and song in the new Transformer's movie? Cmon....Just take it for what it is and wait til it shows up on AMAZON to be 100% convinced ok?

it looks legit to me...and Im a pretty smart guy...I mean research the remixes if you want to!

Jones reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
well as long as that's how it turns out, I'm not complaining! :p
now all we need are the track lengths haha

Franco reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
. Guilty of Not Being Jack Sparrow (Hans Zimmer)
2. Angelica Featuring Rodrigo y Gabriela (Hans Zimmer, Eduardo Cruz, Rodrigo Sanchez and Gabriela Quintero)
3. The Pirate That Should Not Be (Rodrigo Sanchez, Gabriela Quintero and Hans Zimmer)
4. On Stranger Tides (Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli and Eric Whitacre)
5. Palm Tree Escape Featuring Rodrigo y Gabriela (Hans Zimmer)
6. Angry and Dead Again (Rodrigo Sanchez, Gabriela Quintero and Hans Zimmer)
7. Blackbeard (Hans Zimmer)
8. Mermaids (Hans Zimmer and Eric Whitacre)
9. South of Heaven’s Chanting Mermaids (Rodrigo Sanchez, Gabriela Quintero and Hans Zimmer)
10. Mutiny (Hans Zimmer)
11. End Credits (Hans Zimmer)
12. The Pirate That Should Not Be Remixed by Photek (Rodrigo Sanchez, Gabriela Quintero and Hans Zimmer)
13. Angry and Dead Again Remixed by Static Avenger (Rodrigo Sanchez, Gabriela Quintero and Hans Zimmer)
14. Palm Tree Escape Remixed by Adam Freeland (Hans Zimmer)
15. Angelica Ki:Theory’s Grant Us Peace Remix (Hans Zimmer, Eduardo Cruz, Rodrigo Sanchez and Gabriela Quintero)

Source is Filmmusicreporter.com

ya HAPPY NOW? lol jeez

Franco reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
My 2 cents...Im getting tired of these POTC albums padding out the rest of the CD with REMIXES..No offense, but give us more score, less Disney remix....oh well...

Jones reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
@franco
theres a good chance that tracklisting is fake... this is coming from the site claiming zimmer saw to score superman, after all :p

TRON reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
@hybrid any thoughts? VVV

Jack reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
I kinda hope there's more to it then that... I mean names don't matter so much but if the fountain of youth fight scene and jacks london escape cues are not featured in the score, I might cry :'(

franco reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
U actually think it's FAKE? Sounds kind of PAPER THIN to me...Unless proven otherwise, this is it, friends.... Im good with it, as long as the Zimmer tracks aren't friggin 2 minutes each in length...:(

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