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I noticed that the other day as well on IMDB. I know that’s not always reliable, but that would be awesome if he was involved. I’ve missed the “fun” side of Zimmer for awhile. The next couple of years hopefully produce a number of Zimmer classics.Whoah Whoah Whoah Whoah Whoah.  Whoah. Space Jam2?! You aren’t serious.I hope this one will leak very soon! A lot of great music that isnt releasedHybrid, is Zimmer really attached to Space Jam 2?<br><br>Will Hans Zimmer be coming to London in 2021 pls? Thanks Monica
Why won't concert in Poland?! I love Hans Zimmer and his music and I was really waiting for it!! Last time in Cracow it was the best time ever for me! :(Isn't anyone except me wondering what kind of sound that 2-tone-pattern is? Is that something like ring-modulated strings? Or even FM? Sure it is something layered.Anyone own the 24bit FLAC version? I bought it expecting to here a difference between that and the mp3 version and they kinda sound the same to me. Just curious on if anyone else had the same observation.Upon revisit, this score is by far the best of the entire Call of Duty franchise. A wonderful main theme, exciting, varied, and climactic action music for the British missions, and a strong amount of atmosphere. <br><br>The only annoying part is the American missions' action music is on-the-nose and terrible until the nuke cue, and there's a little too much reused tracks for my taste.don’t worry about it @Eobard <br>With the timing, I would’ve thought the same if I didn’t already know about the brass library :)
Well for sure it became the worst timing ever for Tom...<br><br><br>He must be watching twitter sweating right now lol. Totally cornered...@Ahmad well my bad! I didn't know about this. It was just his post came at a time like this so...<br>Sorry guys.@Xavi I know. I also want the  Snyder’s cut and JXL’s score to be released, but setting up expectations about the score when it’s clear that Tom’s post has nothing to do it is just kinda unnecessary.Couldn't agree more Edmund. He's got both the orchestra and synths (and his great guitar usage) down very well. Similar to HGW IMO. <br><br>He's also a very interesting interviewee (that accent always seems to help). <br><br>Which scores have had electronic elements edited off of the official releases? And do the missing elements appear in the complete scores/sessions?In a year, like Enos says
Is there a page for the complete score of this film? Thanks."LOL" Relax, Ahmad. <br><br>People are working really hard to release the movie and with it will come Junkie's score too.<br><br>LOL! The only thing that’s coming is his brass library which he has been working on for quite some time.Even Snyder himself just tweeted it.<br><br>I bet the score of this version would be way better because Junkie/Zimmer worked on Batman, Man Of Steel and the Wonder Woman theme<br><br>What Elfman did was terrible butchering and ignoring all the themes and tonality of all the previous hero scores.Gal and Ben also announced their support for the Snyder Cut!
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Hans ZimmerGeoff ZanelliTom GireJohn Sponsler
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Pirates Of The Caribbean - On Stranger Tides
Label: Walt Disney Records
Length: 77'36 (Score: 45'01)
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  1. Guilty Of Being Innocent Of Being Jack Sparrow (1:42)
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
  2. Angelica (4:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Eduardo Cruz feat. Rodrigo Y Gabriela
  3. Mutiny (2:48) *
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  4. The Pirate That Should Not Be (3:55)
    Rodrigo Y Gabriela, Hans Zimmer
  5. Mermaids (8:05)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Eric Whitacre
  6. South Of Heaven's Chanting Mermaids (5:48)
    Rodrigo Y Gabriela, Hans Zimmer
  7. Palm Tree Escape (3:06)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli feat. Rodrigo Y Gabriela
  8. Blackbeard (5:05) *
    Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  9. Angry And Dead Again (5:33)
    Rodrigo Y Gabriela, Hans Zimmer
  10. On Stranger Tides (2:44)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Eric Whitacre
  11. End Credits (1:59)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  12. Guilty Of Being Innocent Of Being Jack Sparrow Remixed - DJ Earworm (2:45)
  13. Angelica (Grant Us Peace) Remixed - Ki:Theory (3:08)
  14. The Pirate That Should Not Be Remixed - Photek (6:26)
  15. Blackbeard Remixed - Super Smash Bros & Thieves (5:26)
  16. South Of Heaven's Chanting Mermaids Remixed - Paper Diamond (3:32)
  17. Palm Tree Escape Remixed - Adam Freeland (5:28)
  18. Angry And Dead Again Remixed - Static Avenger (5:49)
* Contains themes from POTC 1 written by Klaus Badelt
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Dilly reply Replies: 1 || 2011-06-14 00:20:11
IJWTS wow! Why can't I think of thnigs like that?


Anonymous2011-06-14 02:58:01
Oh great.. the troll is back. >.<

Gage reply Replies: 2 || 2011-06-12 06:12:33
What is that song when We first see spain? and its around when spain enters the fountian. its like a orchestra or something. what is that called?


Ds2011-06-12 12:26:46
It's the first cue in the movie, track 10 "On Stranger Tides".

When spain enters the fountain we hear an unreleased variation of this theme


Anonymous2011-06-13 05:42:04
Geoff Zanelli wrote that theme. It plays at the end of the movie at the fountain. Also when the Spanish sail by Barbossa without turning their heads.

h101 reply Replies: 3 || 2011-06-12 14:41:33
Watching At worlds end special features deleted scene "I like riddles.

the pirates(allow popet duo) argue about the benefits and disadvantages of riddles (not important)

however the Mermaids theme can be heard

With one of the pirates saying that they shouldn't listen to the sirens call


h1012011-06-12 15:11:34
Sorry

Pirates who were arguing were Pintel and Ragetti with Pintel mentioning to Ragetti that he should not listen to the sirens call.

Coincidence?

Seeing that there's a 4 years difference between AWE and OST


kaka2011-06-12 15:42:26
By Mermaid theme you mean the first half of the theme, which is one of the smaller themes
for At World's End (when they are in Davy Jones Locker).


h1012011-06-13 00:17:52
Yeah, the choir at the start

Hernan Patané reply Replies: 5 || 2011-06-09 02:20:51
Where is the song for the triler "First day of shooting"? Will it be included in the extended score? This is the video I mean: youtube.com/watch?v=kFlTJwJmthU


fago2011-06-09 04:59:49
I doubt it. Thats just temp work...


Hernan Patané2011-06-09 07:12:39
You've killed me deep in my heart..


fago2011-06-09 15:58:17
Actually there's no need for killing...all you need to do is rip the audio off that Youtube clip and get rid of the SFX and voices as much as you can and you have your bit of music....


You could try that. Most people don't because they dont like sfx in their music...but hey...give it a shot if you truly want it.


fago2011-06-10 01:18:20
PLus there's that guy during the music that sings along to it, which kind of totally ruins the song halfway through...


Hernan Patané2011-06-10 07:56:08
That's what I thought when I read your suggestion. I hope I can find it. That's all I want. Keep your eyes open please!

D A R T H reply Replies: 1 || 2011-06-09 17:19:36
the "color" of the score (album version) is spanish
on the movie... the spanish "color" is not very high, it's clearly a promo for Rodrigo y gabriella, with a few part of the score and music "inspired by"...


Jack2011-06-09 21:03:53
Totally agree with you!

pepe reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-09 17:32:47
Hey wow, there was a mature update on the media-site! Did'nt noticed that!

JSR. reply Replies: 1 || 2011-05-27 18:57:20
I find it very sad,that some Tracks from the movie, are not on the soundrack. An example is the variation of the mermaids theme, when Syrena and Philip submerge in the sea. I hope one day it will come a !complete! score from pirates of the caribbean - on stranger tides.


pogo2011-06-09 16:01:26
Actually its mostly variations of the Mermaids theme.

Maybe Zimmer didnt want track after track of the same theme just with different arrangement/percussion...So he went with something else?

Eh...I wouldnt worry too much the dvd when it gets released will be EASY to get a complete score off of. You practically dont even need any programs. Just get the audio off it yourself...Most those scenes are not messed up by much SFX or talking.

R reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-03 19:25:54
hey where´s the song that plays when Jack and the rest discover the fountain of youth? straight after Jack emerges from water ...

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-02 17:37:31
Worst cd realease I've ever seen. WTF with this techno? And the saddest thig is that Zimmer wanted it and approved it...

JSR. reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-28 19:00:10
I know another cool track. When Jack Sparrow get hurts with Blackbeards Vodoo-doll. It sounds very interesting!

JS reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-27 03:23:03
There's some music playing during Philip and Syrena's last scene. Also not on the soundtrack.

Jon R reply Replies: 1 || 2011-05-24 19:11:33
"Angry And Dead Again" is awesome ! Thank you so much for this wonderful piece of music


Micah2011-05-25 06:55:42
Hm, that's my least favorite song on the album. It's about three minutes too long...the last 30 seconds are really the only memorable part.

Miles reply Replies: 14 || 2011-05-21 03:42:29
Clemmensen over at Filmtracks has a review up. It's pretty predictable stuff: dissing most of the score itself as "lazy," the tired old complaint about the Pirates scores not being "swashbuckling" enough, and some statements from Zimmer used to aid a juicy little byte about how Zimmer and his method of operating is "intenionally or unintentionally" ensuring the decline of good film scoring and soundtrack presentation. I'm willing to let him have his opinion (and I do agree that the remixes probably weren't a good move), but for him and his readers to act like they're the only ones smart enough to know what "real" film music is...I just don't know.


Ds2011-05-21 13:45:01
Filmtracks.com hates Hans Zimmer and Pirates movies. It's sad to see people giving 1/5 to DMC's score, and 2/5 to AWE's score, saying these scores are "predictable"!


Mike2011-05-21 14:00:23
hey guys,

I hardly ever visit this site, because quite frankly I have never really cared much about this person's point of of view.
I think we all should review a cd for ourselves...and not be influenced by other critics.....Furthermore I believe that certain statements by the above mentioned Mr. Clemmensen can't be taken seriously..".decline of good film music" Oh please...times change and scoring methods and technology have changed over the years...If certain people don't like it or can't accept it, then it's their problem. HZ is on top of his game. So frankly, who cares what certain people think :-)


Anonymous2011-05-21 19:58:37
Clemmensen is a d*ck


Levente2011-05-21 20:12:51
Clemensen I think gave the rating of the movie because he had enough of these things about Zimmer. He was harsh about this score but, I agree on a lot of things. Definietly * star score.

True that Pirates 3 was awesome and is the best all of them.


Hybrid Soldier2011-05-21 20:15:35
Who ?


Anonymous2011-05-21 22:02:05
While I usually don't agree with filmtracks reviews I must say that this time it is spot on.

Besides almost every pirates or zimmer fan is complaining here or in other forums about the lackluster cd release.

Also every other review out there mentions the same points are filmtracks so I think the frisbee rating he gave this time is really accurate.


Trent Easton Navarro2011-05-23 13:40:50
@ Ds

I always find it funny that people here claim Clemmensen hates Zimmer. If you would actually bother to check, a lot of Zimmer scores are rated three or more scores. There are almost 40 scores that he rated 4 stars. Does that seem like someone who hates Zimmer?


D A R T H2011-05-23 13:53:27
for me the best score of the serie * is the 3 (after 2,4,1)

* movie version, not albbum versions


Jonathan Rochat2011-05-23 19:40:11
Filmtracks is not a reference. They put five stars to Horner's "Avatar" which is simply a mix of "Titanic" and "Enemy at the Gates" and only three stars to Gladiator, saying that it is too similar to preceding Zimmer's score...


Trent Easton Navarro2011-05-24 02:29:05
@ Jonathan Rochat

Yeah, and Zimmer never had scores that sound similar to previous ones?

If you guys would bother to check, Zimmer has an higher average rating than a lot of other big name composers. But I guess you don't want to see that cause it doesn't fit with your "Filmtracks hates Zimmer" viewpoint. Unlike you fanboys here, some people actually notice that Zimmer has lost it.


Ds2011-05-24 08:37:28
@Trent Easton Navarro

You're right, but it's sad to read what they wrote about scores like Inception(2/5), Pirates 2 (1/5), Pirates 3 (2/5), Mission Impossible 2 (2/5), Gladiator (3/5) or The Dark Knight (2/5)


Trent Easton Navarro2011-05-24 13:25:06
@ Ds

I agree in some cases they were to harsh (M:i II, At World's End) and I was indeed surprised to see Gladiator only received 3 stars. But Inception just wasn't very good (at least in my opinion), as are most of Zimmer's last few scores.

In the end though, we can't all like the same stuff. I loved Reznor's score for The Social Network and that one got a vicious review over at Filmtracks. Doesn't make me like the score any less. You can't always agree with Clemmensen, but at least he writes good, and sometimes very entertaining reviews.


Miles2011-05-24 16:10:49
@Trent Easton Navarro

Like I said, Clemmensen has a right to his opinion, and I'm sure he's a good writer, but the man himself just gets on my nerves. Be honest, how big of an a**hole opens his Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen review with "fact: our population is hopelessly stupid" and offers up high sales of the first score album as "proof" later on? We should be able to debate the merits and demerits of our favorite scores intelligently, but the smug "you fanboys" attitude which Clemmensen practices (and you, unfortunately, slipped into) is a barrier to that, just as much as unthinking, automatic defense of Zimmer/Remote Control.


JOnathan Rochat2011-05-24 19:37:07
@Trent Easton Navarro

Like Miles says, there is a lot of excellent review on this site. And it's true that Clemmensen see Zimmer fans not with a good eye...
The problem is maybe musically. FIlmtracks does not hate Zimmer, it hates electronic big bass sound (very present in last Zimmer's score) and all of what is not well orchestrated (The "Promise" by "Badelt" got 5/5, surprising??).
So, I think this man is not satisfied with only beautiful epic melody with a minimum of orchestration (Zimmer style). He prefers Williams or Newton style. I can understand. But if you don't like the style of a composer, a review is useless, because will automatically receive a bad rate...

david reply Replies: 4 || 2011-05-22 14:37:31
are the tracks with Rodrigo's music such as palm tree escape like that in the film?, I've seen but can't recall thanks


Micah2011-05-22 16:29:08
Palm Tree Escape is in the scene where Jack and Barbossa are escaping from the Spanish.

Angelica is used for a very tiny bit in the tango scene between Angelica and Jack. Other than that, no, they are not used.


david2011-05-23 08:18:12
I know they were used but was palm tree escape same on cd as in the film because I don't recall much of that Rodrigo guys stuff in the film.


Ds2011-05-23 13:10:16
Yes it was the same version of palm tree escape!


tok2011-05-24 15:38:27
Yah and Im surprised that they didnt cut this down for the album. First time an action cue has been represented in full on these albums...Goes to show you how lacking they were in the originality department.

HP reply Replies: 8 || 2011-05-23 12:19:59
When the Spanish arrive at the Fountain, there's a small piece of music that isn't on the album.
But for those who want to know what it is, it is a piece of music of Hector Berlioz:
Song D'une Nuit de Sabbat.

Please comment if you heard it too!


zach2011-05-23 15:27:15
its actually on Track 10 "On Stranger Tides"

it plays at the beginning of the movie as well


HP2011-05-23 16:47:41
No, that's not what I meant.
I know what you mean, that part is on the album.
I mean the part that comes after the British officer is killed and that Spaniard asks to make a note of that mans bravery.

The music I meant is this:
youtube.com/ watch?v= IrezpUWIY98

On 3:23 the brass part starts, that can definitely be heard in the new Pirates movie at the scene I just decribed. I'm 100 % sure it is thát part.


HP2011-05-23 16:57:07
Of course, it is not the same, but the melody is.
You will hear it is the same when it comes on DVD. Maybe even Hans will say something about it in the near future.


Anonymous2011-05-23 16:57:58
Indeed HP, you are 100% right!

Thanks for directing me to the whole piece. Sounds awesome :)


Hale2011-05-23 17:09:50
It's usual for Zimmer to use this melody.

You can heard it in 'Lion King' (King of a Pride Rock), 'Crimson Tide' (1SQ), Road to Eldorado ("Cortes" Theme)and some other scores which i don't remember.


Hale 2011-05-23 17:12:04
And not from Zimmer but very interesting representation of the theme in "Shining"!!

youtube.com/ watch?v=Iw23KM3-Ry8


Richard2011-05-23 17:58:01
It goes even further back than Berlioz, actually: It's the "Dies Irae" Gregorian chant.

youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr90NLDp-0

Soooo many film scores use it. o.O


Dies Irae2011-05-24 02:27:52
It is one of the oldest and most famous "religious" chants. They probably used it to convey Spanish people's faith.

Jonathan Rochat reply Replies: 2 || 2011-05-20 23:39:56
Very Disappointing on CD, but some cues in the film are very nice, especially on the end credits with a long version of "Mermaids" mixed with "ON Stranger Tides" themes with a lot of choirs, clearly absent from the album.

"Mermaids" is the only tracks that makes me the sensation I had when I listened to the very good "At World's End" four years before... Even if it is a reprise of "The Da Vinci Code", this is an excellent arrangement.

Remember too that Zimmer also re-take "King Arthur" for the last track of "Dead Man Chest", but this time this is a better reprise...


Ds2011-05-21 02:16:35
Which track of "the da vinci code"?

"Mermaids" is a reprise of "At Wit's End" from POTC3!


Jonathan Rochat2011-05-22 21:33:58
I was no talked of the end of "Mermaids" which is clearly a reprise of the Lorb Buckett Death's in "I don't think now is the best time", but from the beggining of the track.

Nevertheless, I think you're right. I've juste listen the "Da Vinci Code", and it is not exactly the same note, but exactly the same style (In the tracks "Poisoned Chalice" and "Daniel's 9th..."). The Begin of "At Wit's End" in POTC3 is really similar to these tracks, and Zimmer re-use it for "Mermaids".

Jacques Mies reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-22 19:29:01
What's sucky is that the Mermaids theme got good variations in the movie, but they were really small.

Honestly, the only parts of this film score that merited some creativity were :

Fight with Angelica and Jack
Second Mermaid Attack (before capture)
pieces of scenes that transition to new scenes while they were on the island - the music was good but only lasted 20 seconds or so...
The Palm Tree escape
Finding the Fountain of Youth

Special mention goes to a small piece of the movie where they play "Up is Down" and the composer creatively interwove Jack Sparrow's theme into it...










Lasse reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-22 15:01:32
i was a little bit disepointed in the soundtrack to be honest.
the movie was great but i was expecting a little bit more from Hans Zimmer.

Renewed reply Replies: 3 || 2011-05-21 14:00:00
I have to echo Micah's views. The album is quite enjoyable, but the score in the movie was just... awful. And I've never agreed with the "it's not an appropriate swashbuckling sound", saw the point - but never personally agreed with it. I've always loved the scores.

This though... feels like one of the laziest film scores I've ever heard. It partially ruined the film for me. Literally 90% of the score, is a cut-and-paste job from the previous three movies. I don't even think some of the tracks were re-recorded, some of them literally sound like they were just *taken* from the previous recordings and edited (badly I might add). The result is a really choppy score, that never seems to flow. It feels like they're just picking from a bank of music, cues which vaguely match what's happening on screen. If you are big into the music, you might think you'd find it charming or warm to hear old themes again. You won't, you'll simply find it distracting hearing music that's played verbatim from the previous movies, that you associate with different characters and events. Music never feels like it's used as a callback or for thematic intelligence, just because it *can* be used.

I heard the same cues being used over and over again. The "Dutchman Attacking" theme was used pretty much verbatim at least twice in the movie, I think once during the London sequence. I truly was expecting better from that sequence. Not just chunks of the EITC theme stapled together with random action cues from the last three movies. He's A Pirate managed to get grating after a while, as did Jack Sparrow's theme which felt like it was used every five minutes.

The final battle scene was just a mess when it came to music, there was no theme to represent anyone, just different random bits of action music stitched together to fill up space. Music was just used for anyone and anything. We had some of the Davy Jones music near the end for no real reason followed by Will and Elizabeth's love theme which was bizarre, then randomly cutting to Up Is Down.

The new identities are barely established. You have the Mermaid/Stranger tides theme and the Blackbeard theme. The Blackbeard theme sounds loud and brassy every time it's used, and the Mermaid/On Stranger Tides stuff is used very minimally. And there's just no variety in it. It's all just clanging action material. The "overhead shot" music where the camera pans, was nothing like the wonderful establishing music used in "At Wit's End". It was just the same loud brass sound. I heard little guitar in the score either.

So while I would maintain I'd give the album, sans remixes, a 7 out of 10, the score would probably get a 4. It's... functional, at very best. And I'd hate to think that Zimmer was getting bored, and you can't presume things, but compared to the passionate effort of At World's End, or the interesting sounds in Sherlock, this is just cut-and-paste rubbish, quite frankly. Very phoned in.


Micah2011-05-21 18:55:12
I completely forgot that they rehashed Bootstrap's theme for an unrelated part inthe movie. I can't remember where, but I facepalmed when I heard it.


patrick2011-05-21 19:28:00
I will agree that the score in the movie was disappointing and not nearly enough original material was either composed or used.

Each action scene in the film just seemed to rehash the same old themes over and over, almost at times sounding badly edited into the film and yes the dutchman attacking theme was played twice and seemed really out of place the second time.

However I am not sure if these cues were newly composed using the old material or if they were just tracked in.

On a side note the ost is terrible, there's barely any original material on there and nothing memorable really at all.


Anonymous2011-05-21 22:00:31
Couldn't agree more with 'renewed'. Horrible score in the movie and even worse on the CD.

Peter reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-21 17:14:30
Just came back from the movie and it wasn't overly that great but the score really utilized many previous cues and quite a bit of the classic themes.

But the cd really should have had 70 mins of Hans music instead of the awful remixes.

Micah reply Replies: 1 || 2011-05-21 06:43:07
Ok, I've just gotta say that I adore this soundtrack. I'm glad to finally hear some great cues again that got left out of the past two movies. I'm not mad about the inclusion of the remixes...what really bothers me is the Rodrigo y Gabriela tracks that made the soundtrack while some other great music got left out.

The movie score as a whole I felt was terrible. It sounded like one of the most rushed in-your-face movie scores I've ever heard, combining random cues from the past three movies in moments where the action had nothing to do with the music being played.

That being said, Mermaids is epic, as is Blackbeard, and Mutiny. I'm a little disappointed at the order they chose to put these songs in (out of chronological order Dead Man's Chest style).


Micah2011-05-21 06:47:12
The movie itself was good, not great (and easily the weakest of the Pirates films) but I still loved it. The mermaids scene was epic, but the ending was a bit too predictable. Phillip, Syrena, and Angelica are all interesting characters and I would love it if they would return for a fifth movie.

Gotta say, I was disappointed in the finale, but that's probably because I got spoiled by Isla Cruces & the Maelstrom. It's also sad that we got next to no music from the climax (save the second half of Blackbeard).

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-21 01:40:20
Just saw the movie.

Must say we are not missing out on a lot of cool tracks.

Most cool cues in the movie that are not on the album are only 20 seconds long so I understand why they are not on the album. There is only 1 or 2 long cues that are really missing and that are not reprises from previous movies.

Only thing that is really missing is the full "end credits" cause it contains some new previously unreleased parts and also a new nice choral reprise of the kraken theme.

But when the DVD comes out we can rip that easily.

But I must say that Hans really could have been a better job on this score an put a lot more material on it instead of those horrid remixes and rodriguez tracks.

tomPoland reply Replies: 10 || 2011-05-12 14:42:16
Bad score. Zimmer failed. Rodrigo Y Gabriela create something worth listen, but their music doesn't have a connection to Pirates (except main theme added to #9 and #4 - but that was completely unnecessary). And first half of mermaids is taken from Da Vinci Code.

Zimmer is sinking - too many scores a year so he must take co-composers to fill the gaps. I'm worried about Sherlock and Batman (JNH should take it entirely).


I saw (on some forum) demo of a complete score:

DISC ONE
1. 1m01 (3:39)
2. 1m02 version A (1:36)
3. 1m02 version B (1:41)
4. 1m02 version C (1:40)
5. 1m03 version A (2:54)
6. 1m03 version B (2:54)
7. 1m04 (0:31)
8. 1m05 (1:03)
9. 1m06 (2:04)
10. 1m07 version A (2:18)
11. 1m07 version B (2:16)
12. 2m8b (0:21)
13. 2m12 (3:05)
14. 2m13b (2:10)
15. 2m14 version A (1:16)
16. 2m14 version B (1:17)
17. 2m15 (2:12)
18. 2m16 (1:32)
19. 2m17 (2:11)
20. 3m18 (0:20)
21. 3m20 (0:50)
22. 3m21 (3:07)
23. 3m22-23 version A (2:28)

DISC TWO
1. 3m22-23 version B (2:28)
2. 3m22a (0:21)
3. 3m24-25 (3:18)
4. 3m26 version A (2:04)
5. 3m26 version B (2:09)
6. 3m27 (1:11)
7. 3m28 (0:44)
8. 4m32 version A (2:33)
9. 4m34 version B (9:30)
10. 4m37-38 version A (3:15)
11. 4m37-38 and 5m39 (3:03)
12. 5m40a (0:51)
13. 5m40b (0:27)
14. 5m40c (2:47)
15. 5m41 (1:15)
16. 5m42 (5:41)
17. 5m46 (1:01)
18. 5m47 (2:41)

and number of track composed

Matthew Margeson - 11
Steven Kofsky - 9
Geoff Zanelli - 8
Guillame Roussel - 8
Jacob Shea - 1
John Sponsler - 1
Nick Phoenix - 1
Thomas Bergersen - 1
Hans Zimmer - 1

Rodrigo Y Gabriela should compose the whole thing, Zimmer should take a rest for 3-4 years.


Anonymous2011-05-12 15:06:46
From what I understand, the initials on each cue (they have been removed on the above tracklist) only signifies who last worked on it, not nescessarily who composed it to begin with.


Cate2011-05-12 19:20:05
I still thinking that tracklist is false


HZLeaks2011-05-13 04:31:06
Cate, its genuine. Some stuff is so rare its not "out there" yet, but people with industry contacts DO have this. Just because you cant Google it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Anonymous knows its real, as he spoke about the credits on the original filenames.

Remember this convo Cate cos when it DOES leak, you will see its for real :)


Anonymous2011-05-15 22:57:46
The "number of tracks composed" on this (presumably incomplete) bootleg is both incorrect and misleading. Steve Kofsky isn't a composer, first of all... But also it doesn't indicate just how much that writer contributed to each track.

The additional music credits are listed in descending order by who contributed most to who contributed least. I believe it was Zanelli, then Gire, Sponsler, Margeson, Roussel, Bergersen, Phoenix. That is the best gauge of the influence of each composer/arranger.


Naji2011-05-19 19:29:21
i think shut up mr tom poland better because we dont know anything about soundtracks compose , who r u to tell mr hans zimmer take rest if u dont like his music dont listen to him and dont buy his soundtracks , he help many new composer and he is praducer to many soundtracks in th end someone made gladiator lion king angels and demons and so many more thn 120 soundtrack u r not th person to tell him take rest .


zach2011-05-19 19:50:41
i really hope this exists


Anonymous2011-05-19 20:04:12
You're right Tom. Zimmer is taking on too many projects and not devoting his attention to any of them. Since Inception, the last time he seems to have put any real effort into a score, we've had Megamind, How do you know, The Dilemma, Rango, Pirates, and Kung Fu Panda, all of which (apart from KFP2 which i haven't heard) have been underwhelming, only partially worked on by Hans, really bad or no album releases. It's like he doesn't care.

After the dark knight rises, he should really do that tour he's been talking about and stop taking on every little project that comes his way. And I really hope he focuses on Sherlock 2 and Dark Knight Rises now and doesn't do anything else.

It's quite simple to observe - when he works long and hard on something, he writes a great score (Inception and Sherlock Holmes). When he does 6 films in 6 months, he can't.


Anonymous2011-05-20 18:21:54
I agree with Naji. Tom Poland can go suck it if he doesn't like Zimmer. Do some core research before you post crap like this Tom. Rod y Gab don't have the skills required to score an entire film (note - Skills, not musical ability). Seriously just shut up Tom and do the world a favour.


Pianoscore2011-05-20 18:27:59
In Regards to the previous Anon statement. Think about what you're saying here. Zimmer gets paid x amount from working on the film (I'm not going to state a figure as I don't know an accurate one). He gets this film from either his manager / his own choice. Then the company releases a soundtrack, most of the profits of which would go back to the company, not Zimmer (unless he retained the rights to the music). The figure would be substantially less either way. So basically. He gets a massive figure for working on the film and either very little or none for releasing a soundtrack. Hmmm...
Then we need to look at whether or not us as fans actually have any relevance to the films success and therefore whether or not Zimmer would actually care about us. Seeing the comparison of film goers compared to film goers who are also avid soundtrack buyers, I'd say no. No we don't have any relevance to the film's sucess.
So basically, No. No I don't think Zimmer cares about his fans. I think he writes his music for the director & himself. Anyone is welcome to join for the ride, but you can blame someone for making them a god then complain when they bleed.


Naji2011-05-20 22:29:09
better if he dosnt care about some fans:):)
i would tell somthing to all Mr Hans Fans , any composer in th world has great soundtracks , good soundtracks and bad soundtracks for ex john williams 1 from the best composer in this world maybe th best, all his soundtracks r great? no sure no if u know war of th worlds u will know what i mean but even he has bad soundtracks 20 30 is not th reason to talk about him or hate him we should respect him and respect all th composers , for me the best track from Mr Hans is 160bpm best albums gladiator and da vinci code but i dont like drop zone that doesnt mean its a bad album or a bad composer or he dosnt care about his fans no no , in th end if we like poc4 or not angelica is 1 of th best tracks in th world for me ill buy th soundtrack just for this track

D A R T H reply Replies: 3 || 2011-05-20 01:36:42
I've just saw the film, and the music is better in it than the album (bad selection and non used cue ?)


D A R T H2011-05-20 01:38:08
Blackbeard (just the theme) -> what time ?


D A R T H2011-05-20 01:44:39
oups !


Ds2011-05-20 22:21:12
@ D A R T H: the Blackbeard theme is used for the first time when Jack realises he's on Blackbeard's ship. The theme comes when the camera goes back and we see the entire ship.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 5 || 2011-05-20 12:13:46
So, about those interested in "correct order" :

Guilty Of Not Being Innoncent Of Being Jack Sparrow : 1m02

Angelica : 2m13 (short part of it)

Mutiny : 2m17 (first 20 secs) / 3m21

Mermaids : 4m34 (though a part of it being more a theme suite)

Palm Tree Escape : 6m51

Blackbeard : 3m22-23 (first 2:30) / 7m62 (1 min long, reprise of Haunted Dress + dramatic end) / 3m24-25

On Stranger Tides : 1m01

En Credits : 7m68


Hybrid Soldier2011-05-20 12:23:01
And I just added the "who did what" on the tracklist... :)


Bondo2011-05-20 12:59:50
As always, thanks Hybrid! The track mixing for "Blackbeard" is a very odd choice... and I would have definitely put "On Stranger Tides" at the beginning of the album. But that's just me :D


zach2011-05-20 15:57:19
you have the score or something? with the names like '1m02' '2m13' '2m17' etc.


D A R T H2011-05-20 19:48:09
well... on stranger tides is the first track too


Bondo2011-05-20 22:03:48
Exactly my point D A R T H, the sequencing is just... weird. It doesn't make the album better.

zach reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-20 15:31:07
I ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT!!!!! BEST POTC YET!!! BEST MOVIE!!! I FREAKING LOVE IT!!!! I NEVER LISTEN TO THE REVIEWS... THEY ALWAYS GIVE THE TWILIGHT FILMS SUCH GOOD REVIEWS... & THEY SUCK... I WANT TO SEE THIS AGAIN


ALSO... THE SOUNDTRACK IS MISSING ALOT OF MUSIC THAT WAS IN THE MOVIE.. i know alot of cues were reused... but they are mixed differently... i want a full score release

Fabian reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-20 13:39:21
Is nick Phoenix in the official Hans-Zimmer team?
or has he just made the music for the trailer?

Ps. I love East West quantum Leap!
I've got Stormdrum 2 + Extansion
Symphonic Orchestra
Symphonic Choirs
Goliath

D A R T H reply Replies: 7 || 2011-05-19 13:10:16
Anyone for the good track order ?

maybe some tracks are suites and must be cuted ?


Hybrid Soldier2011-05-19 17:04:35
D A R T H, I'll show you exactly where is what, what is what, done by who... Give me a few hours ! :P


D A R T H2011-05-19 17:54:54
hum...i think it's not too difficult, there not a lot of tracks...


Anonymous2011-05-19 19:35:45
Tracklist as in the movie:

On Stranger Tides (full)
Guilty of being innocent... (full)
Blackbeard (just the theme)
Mutiny (full)
Blackbeard (till 2'20")
Angelica (30 seconds, different version)
Mermaids (full but with shorter beginning)
Palm Tree Escape (full)
Blackbeard (2'20-3'25")
Up Is Down (beginning, different version)

End Credits (full)
Mermaids (first half)
Palm Tree Escape (full)
Blackbeard (theme)


There are also many variations of:
- DMC theme at the end of "Blackbeard" ("A Family Affair")
- "On Stranger Tides" theme, with better orchestration (less "trailer music" than the track)
- Jack Sparrow theme
- He's a Pirate
- Beckett theme
- I Don't Think Now's the Best Time (first 30 sec)


D A R T H2011-05-20 01:29:22
woooo thx so much ! ! !


D A R T H2011-05-20 01:33:48
mmm ?

The Pirate That Should Not Be
South Of Heaven's Chanting Mermaids
Angry And Dead Again

are not in the movie ?


D A R T H2011-05-20 01:46:43
Blackbeard (just the theme)
Up Is Down (beginning, different version)
Mermaids (first half)


-> Do u have an aproxymate edit timming ?


tomPoland2011-05-20 11:59:19
@Anonymus

So it seems that Rodrigo was needed just for better PR.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 3 || 2011-05-19 09:49:11
No one should judge the music based on this terrible CD... The whole score is just great...


Kusi2011-05-19 10:05:18
that's right yes, but my rating concerns the soundtrack release not the music in the movie.... and this album is just ... hum ... boring? ;) the only one track I'm recently listening to is "Palm Tree Escape"


Anonymous2011-05-19 18:50:57
Yes yes that could be but why isn't that whole great score on CD. Seems Zimmer hates his fan. I think such scores are an insult and a disgrace for the true movie score fans.

Especially since it is his fault that the album is such a horrible full of crap film score lovers don't want.

This comes from a very accurate review I've read and it sums up my feelings quite right

"Make no mistake about it: Zimmer is alone to blame for the terrible album. He has confessed many things about the album's constitution, even admitting that Disney would have pressed an album with much more original score if he had personally insisted. But after blaming the musicians union's fees involved with Los Angeles recordings for limiting most score releases to 30 minutes (someone needs to get this man to consult with Brian Tyler about that), a largely irrelevant poke at the players he claims to support given his wealth and appeal, Zimmer actually claimed artistic merit for his album choices (along with Peter Asher's input). He wanted to show off more artists' talents, seeking spirited remixes that more closely followed his original material (sorry, didn't work!), and specifically left off more of the orchestral action sequences because he thought that they would make the CD less listenable to the purchasing audience."


Zantac232011-05-19 22:50:19
DVD bound, lads!

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