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Hybrid, in an interview for this film Zimmer calls Rob Marshall a "complete gentleman" who "couldn't have been kinder to the music in the movie". But you make it seem like he had an awful time working with him. So was that just Hans being polite? :P
Maybe Hans called Rob a "complete gentleman" because Hans himself is a "complete gentleman" who didn't want to ruin the director's reputation... :P
Hybrid, the problem was with the director or was with Disney? There is any chance of a HZ score now that new directors were hired?
Never trust official interviews or DVD featurettes. Remember how Djawadi said working on Iron Man was great ? xD
Hybrid, what was Hans' worst scoring experience, a movie he wishes he never worked on?
I wonder who will compose the fifth movie now that Hans isn't. Will Disney hire an RCP member who worked on the others or will they get someone else? Time will tell...
I really, really think they should just cancel plans for that movie right now. They should have stopped at #3 (some would argue they should have stopped at #1). It was evident with #4 that it was mostly a way to make money (according to Rotten Tomatoes, 33% of critics gave the movie a positive review), and it's even more evident with this one. Now even the main composer of the series has decided to be done with it.
Disney, if you're reading this, please scrap the film. lol.
Yep, Pirates has definitely outstayed its welcome. Although I certainly wouldn't be against a PotC 5 as long as they make it fresh and non-money-grabbing, and they got Geoff Zanelli to write a great score that pays tribute to the Zimmer scores without using them as a crutch too much. :)
For once, we agree completely Ed !
What makes you think Hans isn't coming back? I think as long as Jerry Bruckheimer is producing I think he will stay because he wanted hans to do pirates from the beginning and let Alan Silvestri go. Bruckheimer likes his style of music and so we will see. I'm hoping he comes back to do the 5th.
Because he told me !
And, I still hope there will be a change in that decision if they hire a decent director, this time...
Yes, Anonymous 2, Hans told Hybrid, who in turn told us. Now Hybrid, if there were a different director who wouldn't insist on temp tracks, do you think Hans would wanna work on the film?
Haha he said he wasn't doing Man of Steel. Look what happened there. I think it's too early to assume he is out even though he told you. A lot of things can happen from now until post production of the new pirates. I think once a director is chosen and what direction the production is going then will we know if he is doing it or if one of his guys are. I hope he changes his mind though. If not I hope he at least helps out with writing some of the music or something with the music if he does not compose.
Well I would be more than happy if Hans Zimmer decided to take the project, delivered an amazing score, and let us all forget that this one happened in the process.... ;)
lol...I'll be honest. I hated that there were so many remixes on this album that could've been score material.
Idk why...the score was mostly a giant rehash of the previous scores. :P
Now that I've heard more of the full score, I agree (I wrote that when I saw the film once or twice). But there are a FEW noteworthy cues, like when the Spanish arrive at the Fountain of Youth, and the jungle trek.
Hans wrote about it on the VI Control Forum :
"I am truly sorry that anyone watched POTC "On Stranger Tides". Honestly, we really had a good idea, but alas...It's very hard to tell a company they can't use the temp when they actually own it! Now, that's Temp Hell..."
Whoa...the company owns the cues, and not that guy who wrote them? What kinda world do we live in...Anyway, Hans needn't feel too bad. He redeemed himself with The Dark Knight Rises (judging by the suites he wrote alone), and I'm sure Man of Steel will be great, too.
What you don't get is that to temp a movie with other cues, a production company has to pay...
Then, temp can be limited...
With Disney owning his own POTC scores, they could do what they want temping the movie like crazy. And they did. And they wanted the team to stick to it, no matter what.
I see...And why exactly didn't they let Hans use any original ideas? Did they need to get the film out too quickly?
*many, not any
They didn't care & didn't want new ideas... :/
They probably also thought, "Most people won't notice, and hey, the Pirates music is already thought of as 'epic' by the common audience, so it probably won't matter what form it comes in".
Here's to hoping the don't make the same mistake with any possible Lone Ranger sequels.
Gore Verbinski is not Rob Marshall... ;)
Very good point. Forgot POTC4 was a different director.
Agree! Gore Verbinski's an amazing director. From the trailers, The Lone Ranger doesn't look so good but i'm sure it'll be original and inventive, just like everything Verbinski's done.
Btw Hybrid, do you have an idea of how TLR score's going to sound? I hope it'll be VERY different from POTC.
Maybe using a lot of temp track also meant having to pay less to Hans and his team? I could be wrong though.
No you're wrong cause they re-record the whole thing anyway... :)
Okay, then I was right--they DID re-record the stuff. I guess that means that even if it's re-recorded, it's still a temp track.
I figure I'll move the discussion of POTC4 over here, rather than filling the Lone Ranger page with it. Anyhow, my question is, wasn't this score played with an actual orchestra? I remember seeing a photo of an orchestra playing the score during the production stages of the film, and if that's the case, could it be argued that the temp tracks aren't temp tracks per se, since they were re-recorded, rather than copied and pasted onto the the scene?
I would assume a re-recorded cue could still be called a temp track...Doesn't temp track simply mean "temporary"? It doesn't necessarily have to be previously recorded. Although it does make its presence far less tacky if it is played/recorded again. It at least shows that an effort was put into it.
But wouldn't a temp track be a temp track precisely because it has been recorded already and simply needs to be placed in the scene for "temporary" purposes?
Hybrid or someone, if you go to YouTube *** EDITED *** there's a lot of new cues that aren't temp tracks like in the final version of the film. Were these the "great ideas" that Hans was forced to scrap?
Mike, I believe this is just a suite of some of the unused cues from the demos that were posted you-know-where sometime last year. *** EDITED ***
WTF? I can't even remember what I had there that was chosen to be *** EDITED ***. I mean, I know that Mike's edited bit was what to search for on YouTube, but what did I say?
You give him advice on where to look at to get the corresponding files.
Well my apologies, I thought we just weren't allowed to link. Sorry bout that.
Huh, now the complete demos for this are out as well.....maybe they'll post it back up again like it was posted for that whopping one whole day...
You know the old saying... anything can happen. Overall, I truly enjoy the complete demo recordings than the original soundtrack.
How can a "demo" be a "recording" ?
That's some sort of big paradox ! :o
Well Hybrid, you guys had it posted here before. By now it's blown up and like I said - practically everyone and their mother has it by now. You may as well post it again
1m01 Opening Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
1m02 The Courtroom Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
1m03 Paddy Wagon Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
1m04 Palace Courtyard Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
1m05 Creampuff - King's Entrance Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
1m06 Barbossa's Entrance Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
1m07 Jack's Escape Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
2m08A Carriage Chase Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
2m08B Filthy Pirate Hans Zimmer, Jacob Shea
2m12 Imposter Swordfight Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
2m13 Meet Angelica Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
2m13 Meet Angelica (Alternate) Hans Zimmer
2m14 British Attack Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
2m15 Gibbs Burns Map Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
2m16A Aboard The QAR Hans Zimmer, Jacob Shea
2m16B Aboard The QAR Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
2m17 The Prophecy Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
3m18 Barbossa Seeks Heading Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
3m19 Spanish Ignore Barbossa Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
3m20 Mutiny Meeting Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
3m21 Mutiny Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
3m22-23 Blackbeard's Entrance - Mutineers Hang Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
3m22A Upside Down Jack Hans Zimmer, Jacob Shea
3m24-25 Fry The Cook Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
3m26 Blackbeard's Cabin Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
3m26 Blackbeard's Cabin (Alternate) Hans Zimmer, Thomas Bergersen
3m27 Barbossa Having Tea Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
3m28 Barbossa Rallies The Crew Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
4m30-31 The Dance Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
4m32 Mermaid Tale Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
4m34-35-36 Mermaid Appear - Mermaids Attack Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
4m37-38 - 5m39 The Beach - To The Fountain - Jungle Trek Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
5m40A-B-C Syrena Needs Air - The Cliff Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
5m41 Jack Jumps Hans Zimmer, Jacob Shea
5m41 Jack Jumps (Alternate) Hans Zimmer, Nick Phoenix
5m42 Naming Syrena Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
5m44 Don't Touch The Map Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
5m45 Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
5m46 Mermaid Pools Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
5m47 Mermaids Are Tough Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
5m48 Spanish Camp Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
5m49 Mermaid Tears Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
6m50 Palm Tree Grove Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
6m51 The Escape Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
6m53 Is That It? Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
6m54 Water Drop Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
6m56A Aqua De Vida Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
6m58 The Faceoff Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
6m59A pt1-pt2 Battle For The Fountain Of Youth Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
6m59B Philip Returns To Syrena Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
6m59C Battle Continues Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
6m59C Battle Continues (Alternate) Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
6m60 Spanish Arrive Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
7m61 Blackbeard Is Stabbed Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
7m62 Blackbeard's Demise Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
7m63 Syrena Saves Philip Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
7m64 One Pistol, One Shot Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
7m65 Jack Leaves Angelica Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson
7m66 Make Way To Tortuga Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
7m67 Jack & Gibbs Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
7m68 End Credits Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
7m69 Voodoo Doll Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
Uh, yeah, it'd be cool to repost the complete demos again, if only to have the album cover. Apparently nobody in the world thought to save it before the page was taken down. I can't remember what it looked like, but I guess a lot of other people thought it was awesome.
Actually, the cover is still there, I see... Maybe Hybrid, or whoever added it, forgot to remove it ?
... although I see no harm in it still being there ... or for it to be shown, for that matter. It's just a fan made front cover.
Why isn't Rodrigo Y Gabriella listed in any of the cues?
I don't believe that Rodrigo y Gabriela wrote a thing for this score. I think Zimmer might have arranged all of it for them, and they just performed it. I have noticed that more than the Angelica theme is in the demos. Fragments of one of their other pieces--I have no idea which one--make brief appearances, though again I don't know in which cues.
btw, how can I get to the page that had the complete score listed? I know the list was taken down, and the comments were wiped, but there was still a blank page with a new list of comments. I came back a few days later and even the blank page was gone--at least that's what I remember.
You should be able to Google it, but for some reason it's not working. For example, if you Google "hans-zimmer.com hannibal expanded" it will pull up the expanded score which you cannot access through the site. But it's weird - when I tried it just now, it pulls up different pages and different comments for this score
Ya I much rather prefer the one from lost scores. Had it since these demos leaked. I check that site everyday for new covers. Soundtrack list covers, too.
I still have the covers a friend designed for me...
But I'm not creating the page again...
If that's to lose 1 hour again to do it and receive a new mail from RCP asking to remove it... No thanks ! :P
Ah...so it wasn't Disney wanting you to remove it? I had heard that was the reason. Seriously I think there's no point in RCP having you take it down if you were to add it again at this point. I among many many other people already have it. It's on every single torrent site and even that hanszimmerscores blog with that fake-ass Inception 5-Disc. Once it's out there, it's out there. And that's the case with this....
As long as there's no music files, Disney doesn't give a shit...
It was indeed RCP who "requested" that page to be removed...
If you ask me, what worried them was more the full credits known than the fact that the music leaked...
Really? Who gives a shit about the full credits? I don't understand, they don't want people knowing who wrote what?
Maybe they don't want the credits to be known cause Rodrigo Y Gabriela aren't credited. Mayne they want to keep up appearances so as pretend that Rodrigo Y Gabriela actually wrote stuff? As it was suggested here some time ago that they didn't actually write anything.
D A R T H
do you have somes ideas about the good choice of version ?
Hey, my comment got removed--as did Eddo's! What was the problem? Are people not supposed to post links to downloads or was that considered spamming? I'm sorry if what I did was wrong
Hah! Yes Mr. Fate, there aren't supposed to be any download links. I'm surprised the mods didn't remove them sooner. I'm shocked they didn't remove the cue list I posted, being that entire page was removed per Disney
maybe because it should be? ever thought of that? or do you not give a crap about propriety?
First let me say I made a mistake in that last post. It was RCP that wanted it removed, not Disney. Now, Maybe YOU think it should be jacques, but clearly RCP doesn't. At least not now
The normal release gave to me the impression that Hans wanted to give a new lease of life to his themes. That was more the idea. This complete score is full of it !!!!! Love it!
Um no sorry YOU got me backwards. For the sake of propriety, downloads should definitely NOT be posted on here.
Oops I responded in the wring spot. Jacques, I responded to T-Mann by mistake. But yes, download links are definitely not allowed
It could be that they were afraid of the leaking of the music because we are talking about demos, which can, but do not have to be, recorded in whole or in part. My theory is that they recorded some of the demos, and other tracks Zimmer left to be recorded for future POTC movie and that's why they didn't want demos to be leaked... (i'm just playing sherlock holmes now lol)
01 Opening - 3:40 02 The Courtroom - 1:35 03 Paddy Wagon - 2:56 04 Palace Courtyard - 0:31 05 Creampuff-King's Entrance - 1:04 06 Barbossa's Entrance - 2:05 07 Jack's Escape - 2:18 08 Carriage Chase - 2:10 09 Filthy Pirate - 0:21 10 Imposter Swordfight - 3:10 11 Meet Angelica / Jack & Angelica Bicker - 2:09 12 British Attack - 1:17 13 Gibbs Burns Map - 2:13 14 Aboard The QAR - 1:32 15 First Mate Is A Her / The Prophecy - 2:15 16 Barbossa Seeks Heading - 0:21 17 Spanish Ignore Barbossa - 1:35 18 Spanish Still Ignore Barbossa - 0:30 19 Mutiny Meeting - 0:49 20 Mutiny - 3:12 21 Blackbeard's Entrance / Mutineers Hang - 2:32 22 Upside Down Jack - 0:21 23 Fry The Cook - 3:20 24 Blackbeard's Cabin - 2:07 25 Barbossa Having Tea - 1:13 26 Barbossa Rallies The Crew - 0:42 27 The Dance / Bottle Room / Voodoo Doll - 3:40 28 Mermaid Hunt (Insert) - 1:41 29 Mermaid Hunt / Mermaid Tale - 2:27 30 Mermaids Appear / Mermaids Attack - 9:32 31 The Beach / To The Fountain / Jungle Trek - 3:17
01 Syreena Needs Air - 0:54 02 The Cliff Sting - 0:26 03 The Cliff - 2:50 04 Jack Jumps - 1:16 05 Naming Syrena (Insert) - 0:42 06 Shirtless / Naming Syrena / Ponthz De Leon - 5:35 07 Dont Touch The Map - 1:10 08 Ole - 0:44 09 Mermaid Pools - 0:56 10 Mermaids Are Tough - 2:37 11 Spanish Camp - 3:17 12 Mermaid's Tears - 2:29 13 Palm Tree Grove - 2:20 14 Jazz Hands - 3:11 15 Is That It - 2:12 16 Water Drop - 2:02 17 Aqua De Vida - 0:46 18 The Faceoff - 1:45 19 Battle For The Fountain of Youth (Part 1) - 1:27 20 Battle For The Fountain of Youth (Part 2) - 1:13 21 Philip Returns To Syrena - 1:06 22 The Battle Continues - 1:04 23 Spanish Arrive - 2:38 24 Angelica Cut - 3:25 25 Blackbeard's Demise - 1:33 26 Syrena Saves Philip - 2:05 27 One Pistol, One Shot - 0:36 28 Jack Leaves Angelica - 1:16 29 Make Way For Tortuga - 2:03 30 Jack & Gibbs (Ending) - 0:24 31 Jack & Gibbs - 1:50 32 End Credits - 2:06
01 Opening (Alternate) - 2:44 02 The Courtroom (Alt.1) - 1:40 03 The Courtroom (Alt.2) - 1:38 04 Paddy Wagon (Alternate) - 2:57 05 Paddy Wagon (Sting) - 0:20 06 Jack's Escape (Alternate) - 2:19 07 Imposter Swordfight (Alternate) - 2:57 08 Meet Angelica / Jack & Angelica Bicker (Alternate) - 2:35 09 British Attack (Alternate) - 1:16 10 Blackbeard's Entrance / Mutineers Hang (Alternate) - 2:32 11 Blackbeard's Cabin (Alt.1) - 2:15 12 Blackbeard's Cabin (Alt.2) - 2:27 13 Barbossa Having Tea (Alt. Fix) - 1:35 14 The Dance / Bottle Room / Voodoo Doll (Alternate) - 3:51 15 Mermaid Hunt - Mermaid Tale (Alternate) - 2:55 16 The Beach / To The Fountain / Jungle Trek (Alternate) - 3:07 17 The Cliff Sting (Alternate) - 0:36 18 The Cliff (Insert) - 0:39 19 The Cliff (Alternate) - 2:13 20 Jack Jumps (Alternate) - 1:33 21 Mermaids Are Tough (Alternate) - 3:03 22 Mermaid's Tears (Alternate) - 2:23 23 Jazz Hands (Alt. Insert) - 3:11 24 Is That It (Alt.1) - 2:08 25 Is That It (Alt.2) - 2:08 26 Water Drop (Alternate) - 2:03 27 The Faceoff (Alternate) - 1:41 28 Battle For The Fountain of Youth (Part 1 / Insert) - 0:28 29 Battle For The Fountain of Youth (Part 2 / Alternate) - 1:13 30 The Battle Continues (Alternate) - 0:52 31 Spanish Arrive (Alternate) - 2:38 32 Blackbeard's Demise (Alternate) - 1:26 33 Blackbeard's Demise (Alt. Insert) - 1:03 34 Blackbeard's Demise (Alt. Insert 2) - 1:07 35 Syrena Saves Philip (Alt.1) - 2:05 36 Syrena Saves Philip (Alt.2) - 2:05 37 Syrena Saves Philip (Alt.3) - 2:05 38 Jack Leaves Angelica (Alternate) - 1:19 39 Jack & Gibbs (Alt. Insert) - 0:41 40 Jack & Gibbs (Alt.1) - 1:54 41 Jack & Gibbs (Alt.2) - 1:54 42 End Credits (Alternate) - 2:00 43 Voodoo Doll - 0:39 44 Voodoo Doll (Alternate) - 0:37 45 Blackbeard Suite - 5:05 46 Angelica Suite - 4:17 47 Marmaid Suite - 8:05
Uh, thanks for that because we all were just yearning so much for yes another iteration of the complete demos. And because the other three or four track lists posted on this page alone just weren't enough to satisfy us.
hey man, this is fake!!
why should this be fake? i have it ;)
Yah he's right I have it too.
this is just the demos with the alternates on a 3rd disc
theeaglesfan005 is right. this is 100% the demos!
Wow, that guy who likes to post random, useless, and irrelevant comments has gone apes**t on this site. It's too bad this site is so anonymous because I do believe we have a spammer, a troll, a very rude person among us. The best the mods can do is remove all his pointless comments, but he'll keep posting.
Its not a human poster, its an auto spam bot. They scour the web and look for certain, unregulated addons like this comment box and then post shit. It sucks...
Are you serious it's not a person? Man, that really sucks. I just couldn't understand what person would feel the need to post useless irrelevant comments everywhere. What is not accounted for is why there's suddenly been a flare-up of pointless posts. Usually it was once every couple days or less, and then in like a 12-hour period there were like 20+ comments here.
a few mentalists also having conversations with themselves haha
I have the complete score that's being teased below and I must say, I'm not impressed. This soundtrack still feels flat and lifeless. There is almost no emotion with the score, not nearly what was felt in At World's End. If the recording sessions to that gem ever leak, those will be priceless tracks. On Stranger Tides can't even hold a candle to the emotion and passion that was in At World's End. Ah, I long for the day for that score to leak. I'm not giving up hope yet, haha!
whaddaya expect when zimmer washed his hands from this franchise? didnt you know he said he was tired of it? he pretty much threw this score to his proteges as a homework project and they delivered...obviously its not gonna be as epic.
oh OR revenge of the fallen. forgot about that one
pft next thing well find u want an itunes card 2?
what? no. its a trade thats all im doing no sells
dammit >.< this is one of the times I WISH I knew someone so I could trade... arg :/
Don't fret, Cobb. I'm calling this guy out on an obvious bluff. Even Inception and the complete Stranger Tides demos are far more easily available than the complete for AWE, which is nearly impossible to find even for those collectors who have the above two.
@Mr. Jones Track list or it isn't real.
@Mr. Jones: By the way, I emailed you with a possible trade option. Let me know what you think. But although, I do agree with Dimensioner that you should post a track list to verify your claims.
@ Jimmer message with tracklist being sent in a few mins!
@ cheesy are you saying inception already is out? I haven't even found it :(
Wel thats ok. I much prefer inception anyway, though at world's end is exceptional zimmer score
can it.... can it really be true ?!?! :D
NO. Let's put an end to that rumor now. Inception is NOT out yet. In fact it's almost as impossible to find as AWE. I apologize, my comment was misguided. But don't lose any sleep over Inception, it could be years before we see anything.
@ cheesy thanks for straightening that out
At World's End Complete:
01. Hoist The Colours (2:44) 02. Singapore (5:37) 03. The Court Of Sao Feng (5:11) 04. Attack By The East India Trading Company (2:24) 05. Wills Treachery (1:33) 06. Davy Jones (1:55) 07. At Wit's End (5:01) 08. Orders For Davy Jones (1:59) 09. Sea Of Stars (1:50) 10. Good And Lost (2:14) 11. Multiple Jacks (6:45) 12. Davy Jones Locker (3:43) 13. "What Arr Ya Doin?" (1:23) 14. Souls At Sea (4:25) 15. Up Is Down (3:35) 16. Up Goes The Ship (0:17) 17. The World Use To Be A Bigger Place (5:56) 18. An 'Old' Friend (8:03) 19. Sao Feng's Ship (3:23) 20. Think Like Jack (4:31) 21. Choosing A Side (4:19) 22. Calypso And Barbossa (1:23) 23. Davy Jones And Calypso (1:32) 24. Shipwreck Cove (0:51) 25. The Brethren Court (2:15) 26. Davy Jones, A Man (3:13) 27. The Pirate Code (3:01) 28. How's Mum? (0:45) 29. Parlay (1:47) 30. Jack For Will (3:35) 31. Calypso (4:29) 32. What Shall We Die For? (2:19) 33. Maelstrom (6:42) 34. I Don't Think Now is the Best Time (10:02) 35. PArt Of The Ship, Part Of The Crew (5:05) 36 Just Good Business (4:51) 37. One Day (7:29) 38. Drink Up Me Hearties, Yo Ho! (9:57) 39. 10 Years Past (0:39) 40. At World's End (6:03) 41. Jack Sparrow New Theme (3:42)
I'll just leave that there.
*waits for all the comments*
Oh wow. Can we uh...can we get some verification on that?
And btw @Cobb sorry if I came off as harsh, that wasn't my intention. You know how it is - one slip up and everyone goes crazy, so I had to make sure it was clear to everyone.
@ cheesy don't worry about it, I didn't :p
That track list is very much real. Damn, I sure wish I could get complete At World's End, let alone any of the other scores Mr. Jones wants to trade for. If this gets out, it's gonna be pretty big. However, you do realize you're posting this under the absolute last place on Earth you want to post it? Too bad we don't have private messaging here.
This is real? How you figure? A TRACKLIST? You do know theres rips out there - good ones I might add - that have the same tracklists. Has anybody proven it by sampling a track that would otherwise have SFX from a ripped version?
Now all of a sudden there's these demos and complete scores floating around, when there wasn't before. Odd how this is coming right on the heels of this complete score for Pirates 4.Call me cynical but smells like tuna.
Are there any SFX on this complete score of Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End?
@DingMaster, you should read the post I just made above yours. I'm betting Mr. Jones took some of the tracks I made, but there's also quite a lot of stuff I can't identify. I can tell you that at least three of his tracks will have SFX in them as they are stolen from my DVD-audio edit.
I'm not buying it. Unless any of you get a few legit examples from this guy who clams to have it, I wouldn't bother. Fish sandwich.
@ dimensioneer I dont know what yo meaN? my edition has no sfx what so ever. i post samples in youtube if i can!
Yes, you can very well post samples in YouTube. Just create an account. Your tracks 1, 2, and 11 match my track titles and lengths (nearly) exactly. After posting the score on the Shrine, I realized that the second cue in track 11 should be roughly 13 seconds longer--which yours is not.
If you choose to upload any to YouTube, please upload the above three tracks, as well as tracks 17, 34, and 35.
So far so good. I was given track 3, "The Court of Sao Feng" and there was no SFX, none. The other tracks are being sent this evening and I'll be sure to give the rest of you the details to see if Mr. Jones is boasting another fake/ripped score or if this indeed the real thing. Though I must say, that after listening to the track I was given, if it is a DVD-rip, it's the best I've ever heard. More details to come. By the way, thank you Mr. Jones for being so cordial. I thought I'd publicly say that you've been kind throughout the process so far. Looking forward to the rest of the soundtrack.
can you folks just upload it to Youtube so we can all see what you're talking about, please? I'm looking for quality grade score with no indication of rip, and believe me I can tell without doing any matching. Not that I'm trying to be douchemeister but if you can Youtube those samples that would be most helpful.
I find it rather disturbing that people who've got great, unreleased scores, won't share it with everybody on this forum. Please, Mr. Jones, do us all a favor and share you're magnificent complete AWE score. Thank you.
Yep, that's all pretty convincing. Those are plentiful evidence to other people that you do have some good unreleased material. However, I wouldn't mind you still uploading the tracks I requested earlier; you don't quite have me convinced yet, Mr. Jones.
Or, we could just wait and see the outcome when Jimmer responds.
@ Mr. Jones
can you PLEASE upload the track when William is getting his heart cut out? i have always wanted that SFX free... that would have me convinced
@Dimensioner: So this is not your rip? I recall from the Shrine that you had uploaded a very impressive rip, yet it still contained SFX. If you say this isn't yours that'll get me even more excited for the score to come today. But like eaglesfan005 said, Mr. Jones should upload "Part of the Ship, Part of the Crew", which could possibly be Zimmer's best cue of all time once it's finally released. Anyway, I'll keep the rest of you updated once Mr. Jones emails me the rest of the score today.
It is very much one of the best cues of all time. In my opinion it's way up there with the climax of Return of the King.
As I said, a few of these tracks appear to be from my rip, and Mr. Jones either needs to upload the ones I asked him to, or we can wait for your conclusions, Jimmer. So you have my score from the Shrine? Well, whether you do or not, if any tracks you receive have SFX in them, they most likely came from my edit...and then the search will continue for a true complete score. But I am jumping ahead of myself. For now, we will wait.
why cant you just accept that someone has a far superior complete score than the one you have made. everytime someone posts something your always popping up "my rips far supeior" even on the shrines.
How much do I want to bet you're jmn77 from the Shrine? Stop bashing me! Yes, I do good work, but please find proof where I've said my work is BETTER than someone else's.
I'm not saying mine is better than this, because I can't know that 100%. I just want to know that this isn't using my material. I know for a fact that a large amount of this posted track list is totally legitimate. There are just a few tracks I want to confirm are the real deal.
@ the man just chill no need for arguments over here. if we are very much so about to get a complete AWE score I'm pretty much willing to wait around and shut up just so it will be posted.
ps. dimensioneer IMO you make great rips!
...Based on what the Man said...Is this about presenting THE completed score to us in the hopes of sharing it, or is this about rubbing it in dimensioner's face?
Oh yeah but he wants to trade his complete version of POTC AWE and for the complete demos of POTC4 , SH complete , Inception Complete : some stuff NOBODY have right now...
Nobody has?... Or nobody who has them publish it in a public forum
Why do all the comments past the date on the reply above mine keep disappearing?
Because they were spam, flood or do not follow site policy about not trying to share bootleg and similar CD.
Geoffzanelli.com just launched and features a bunch of unreleased cues. Film version of the Mermaid Attack is incredible!
Nice find! But I have to point out: while this features alternate orchestrations and several bits of unreleased music, it is far from being complete (which I know you didn't say it was in the first place). Music is clipped out in at least four spots, but it's still a nice bit of music.
"On Stranger Tides" from On Stranger Tides is unfortunately just the OST version of the track as well as Palm Tree Escape. "British Attack" is unreleased in addition to "Jack's Escape", "The Water Drop" and--hell!--"The Fountain of Youth" wasn't even that behemoth set of demos that leaked last summer!!! I guess what "He's A Pirate" is.
There is quite a wide variety of other good treats that Zanelli has so kindly presented us with!
how can i download those files?
I dont think you can but I just recorded them as a wav file...
Oh but you can! You could either sort through a maze of temp folders in your internet browser's storage to find the mp3s or you could download and install the DownloadHelper add-on for Firefox and simply rip the tracks. That way you aren't giving yourself a false sense of quality by ripping the music in saving it in WAV format.
This Album - On stranger tides - Really lovely
Mr. Zanelli has added another track to his On Stranger Tides page! It's "Spanish Arrive"! I wonder if anything else has been added. He has posted material from so many movies.
It's also surprising to see someone update their website. Usually once a composer's website goes live, what we see on there the first day is the same as what we will see on there the day time ends. That track really is new...right? I didn't just somehow glaze over it the first time?
it was probably added along with the others, but somebody forgot to link it to the player so it wasn't there initially.
Ah. That would make sense, since there appears to be absolutely nothing else new on his website. Oh well.
At the point just before the fountain of youth is destroyed by the Spaniards (in the movie) the opening theme from the 1980 Kubrick film "The Shining" is played. Written by Wendy Carlos and Rachel Elkind. Does Disney own the rights to this music?
It's played as in they ripped it straight from the score and planted it in Pirates, or it's played as in the theme appears to have been borrowed from "The Shining"? I'm listening to what I think is the opening theme for "The Shining" and I'm not hearing anything that sounds like something Hans Zimmer would have copied and placed in a Pirates of the Caribbean movie.
Can you post links to the two things (YouTube clips or whatever) in question here? Maybe somebody else could be more qualified than I to respond to this.
I think you're talking about the Dies Irae, which is a traditional catholic song. You can hear it in a lot of movies, especially when they are religion-related.
Both Hans Zimmer & Wendy Carlos "borrowed" it for the needs of their scores.
Please help my find music that plays in this video: www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/vietnam-war/a mazing-vietnam-war-slideshow/876532312001/
Alex... are you trolling? I saw your post at Crimson Tide, but this?!
Ok so what am I missing? We're both on the same page, no download links are supposed to be posted. It's like the only rule on this site. Other than plastering your Email like some ppl do anyway. Or asking for a download.
Posted by Hybrid on another site (copy and paste the first few lines into Google, it will come up in the results):
1m01 Opening Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli 1m02 The Courtroom Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson 1m03 Paddy Wagon Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson 1m04 Palace Courtyard Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel 1m05 Creampuff - King's Entrance Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel 1m06 Barbossa's Entrance Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel 1m07 Jack's Escape Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli 2m08A Carriage Chase Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler 2m08B Filthy Pirate Hans Zimmer, Jacob Shea 2m12 Imposter Swordfight Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler 2m13 Meet Angelica Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson 2m13 Meet Angelica (Alternate) Hans Zimmer 2m14 British Attack Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli 2m15 Gibbs Burns Map Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli 2m16A Aboard The QAR Hans Zimmer, Jacob Shea 2m16B Aboard The QAR Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler 2m17 The Prophecy Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson 3m18 Barbossa Seeks Heading Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel 3m19 Spanish Ignore Barbossa Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel 3m20 Mutiny Meeting Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli 3m21 Mutiny Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler 3m22-23 Blackbeard's Entrance - Mutineers Hang Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson 3m22A Upside Down Jack Hans Zimmer, Jacob Shea 3m24-25 Fry The Cook Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler 3m26 Blackbeard's Cabin Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel 3m26 Blackbeard's Cabin (Alternate) Hans Zimmer, Thomas Bergersen 3m27 Barbossa Having Tea Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel 3m28 Barbossa Rallies The Crew Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel 4m30-31 The Dance Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson 4m32 Mermaid Tale Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler 4m34-35-36 Mermaid Appear - Mermaids Attack Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli 4m37-38 - 5m39 The Beach - To The Fountain - Jungle Trek Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson 5m40A-B-C Syrena Needs Air - The Cliff Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler 5m41 Jack Jumps Hans Zimmer, Jacob Shea 5m41 Jack Jumps (Alternate) Hans Zimmer, Nick Phoenix 5m42 Naming Syrena Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson 5m44 Don't Touch The Map Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel 5m45 Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli 5m46 Mermaid Pools Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler 5m47 Mermaids Are Tough Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel 5m48 Spanish Camp Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler 5m49 Mermaid Tears Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson 6m50 Palm Tree Grove Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler 6m51 The Escape Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli 6m53 Is That It? Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson 6m54 Water Drop Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli 6m56A Aqua De Vida Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel 6m58 The Faceoff Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson 6m59A pt1-pt2 Battle For The Fountain Of Youth Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler 6m59B Philip Returns To Syrena Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson 6m59C Battle Continues Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel, Tom Gire, John Sponsler 6m59C Battle Continues (Alternate) Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler 6m60 Spanish Arrive Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli 7m61 Blackbeard Is Stabbed Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli 7m62 Blackbeard's Demise Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler 7m63 Syrena Saves Philip Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson 7m64 One Pistol, One Shot Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel 7m65 Jack Leaves Angelica Hans Zimmer, Matthew Margeson 7m66 Make Way To Tortuga Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel 7m67 Jack & Gibbs Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler 7m68 End Credits Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli 7m69 Voodoo Doll Hans Zimmer, Guillaume Roussel
COMPLETE SCORE FROM THE RECORDING SESSIONS. ONE QUESTION TO MR. HYBRID. WHEN WILL THIS AVAILABLE FROM ANY SOURCE?
1-01 - Ponce De Leon [02:58] 1-02 - On Stranger Tides [03:41] 1-03 - On Stranger Tides [Alternate] [02:44] 1-04 - Guilty of Being Innocent of Being Jack Sparrow [01:37] 1-05 - Guilty of Being Innocent of Being Jack Sparrow [Alternate] [01:43] 1-06 - Guilty of Being Innocent of Being Jack Sparrow [Alternate II] [01:41] 1-07 - Jack & Gibbs [02:56] 1-08 - Jack & Gibbs [Alternate] [02:55] 1-09 - All Part of the Plan? [0:33] 1-10 - King George [01:05] 1-11 - Privateer Barbosa [02:06] 1-12 - I Understand Everything... Except that Wig [02:20] 1-13 - I Understand Everything... Except that Wig [Alternate] [02:18] 1-14 - Jack vs. Jack [03:07] 1-15 - Jack vs. Jack [Alternate] [02:53] 1-16 - Angellica & Jack [02:12] 1-17 - Angellica & Jack [Alternate] [04:17] 1-18 - Jack Sparrow [01:17] 1-19 - Jack Sparrow [Alternate] [01:19] 1-20 - Jack Sparrow [Alternate II] [01:10] 1-21 - ''Queen Anne's Revenge'' 01:34] 1-22 - The Prophecy [02:18] 1-23 - Insert [0:52] 1-24 - Mutiny [03:09] 1-25 - Mutiny [Alternate] [02:46] 1-26 - English Ship [0:21] 1-27 - Blackbeard [02:28] 1-28 - Blackbeard [Alternate] [02:30] 1-29 - Here's Jack [0:23] 1-30 - Fry the Cook [03:20] 1-31 - The Pirate That Should Not Be [03:55] 1-32 - Jack Speaks with Blackbeard [02:06] 1-33 - Jack Speaks with Blackbeard [Alternate] [02:11] 1-34 - Jack Speaks with Blackbeard [Alternate II] [01:15]
2-01 - Mermaid Waters, That be Our Path [01:13] 2-02 - Are We Not King's Men? [0:46] 2-03 - Are We Not King's Men [Alternate] [01:13] 2-04 - Whitecap Bay [02:35] 2-05 - South Of Heaven's Chanting Mermaids [05:48] 2-06 - Mermaids [09:32] 2-07 - Mermaids [Alternate] [05:07] 2-08 - Sea Ghouls, Devil Fish [06:28] 2-09 - Seagulls Nesting, Nothing More [01:14] 2-10 - You're Killing Her [02:39] 2-11 - Ignorance is Bliss [03:05] 2-12 - Ignorance is Bliss [Alternate] [03:17] 2-13 - Where? [0:53] 2-14 - Discovery [0:29] 2-15 - The Cliff Jump [01:24] 2-16 - The Cliff Jump [Alternate] [02:49] 2-17 - Push On [0:29] 2-18 - El Santiago [0:37] 2-19 - Walk or Die [01:58] 2-20 - Syrena [02:20] 2-21 - Spanish Camp [03:00] 2-22 - We Need a Tear [02:42] 2-23 - Voodoo Doll Jack [01:17] 2-24 - Ponce de Leon's Ship [05:43] 2-25 - Palm Tree Escape [03:06] 2-26 - Battle Montage [02:05] 2-27 - Jack & Barbosa [01:03] 2-28 - Blackbeard's Demise [01:24] 2-29 - Dark Paths [02:41] 2-30 - Angry And Dead Again [05:33] 2-31 - Jack & Gibbs (Pirate's Life for Me) [01:39] 2-32 - End Credits [02:00]
Hey that's a mix of my songs and that appear in the demonstration score
You should know that mine....the names are invented by me...so they aren't official
Theyre not leaked...Someone is going around teasing people with some fake ass demo reel tracklist...
No it sold on eBay tonight
Just because someone has them doesn't mean they are leaked. I'm sure quite a few people have them. It's not leaked until someone posts them online; the only thing the ebay auction means is that we now have visual proof that the demos exist. Nothing more and nothing less.
Hans Zimmer has them...Let that suffice. Whoever is making a big stink over these demos is trolling, so just let it go until you see otherwise online at some point in time.
Thyey probably just sold them some crappy rehash of all three Pirates movies.....I dont buy it.
They will leak online sometime and the non-believers will kick yourselves for dismissing their existence. I bet no one believed the Predators 2CD demos score was leaked when it was first mentioned; now its everywhere as proof. These things just take time, people, that's all. Theres at least three versions of these demos doing the rounds amongst high-ranking collectors.
Check that seller's feedback in a week or two and I bet they have positive feedback confirming they are genuine.
The demos are real, but just because it sold means nothing. The person who bought them may not even be the type of person who knows that there's an online community hntin thus stuff down. It could have just been a fanatic of the score for all we know...
HUNT THIS stuff down*
Sorry, typing from an iPod touch
"non-believers will kick yourselves for dismissing their existence"
Not really. Especially not when said score is so out of reach it becomes more fable and less reality. I KNOW a demo score exists. I know because Hans Zimmer and CO. Recorded it. Someone saying they have it and not backing it up with better proof like samples says nothing to me. Anyone can forge a tracklist. Hell - anyone can forge sound samples!
Besides, Im not too concerned with this score - most of it is rehashed work, we already got some good extras from Brand X, and the rest of the music can literally be ripped from the dvd when it comes out with little to no effort, seeing as most of the best pieces arent marred with Heavy SFX or talking.
OH yes, that there demo cd is a bunch of twaddle alright.
I somewhat highly doubt it, he could be pulling everyone's leg... lemme see what he wants o.O
no u dnt u liar he aint responded to me yet :(
lez fails -_-
Thats what I thought.
Me too but my friend said don't do it
sounds like a scam. Dont bother.
this person merged it with sfx though. the real one doesnt have this
you know whuts funny? I can make a suite out of the Youtube link provided of UNRELEASED music and take off about 90% of the voices....if this is what the guy's peddling then do yourself a favor, guys...DONT BOTHER. Wait for DVD and do it yourselves. Itll be in better quality at the VERY least.
^^^ 'nuff said
smh -__- this is all getting ridiculous...
they exist but I don't get how they can be called demo's as a certain somewhere as the Jack's escape cue and that sounds exactly like the film version.
I got all demos and I can say to you that it are....AMAZING!
It is* (sorry)
@anonimus - im sure you do have the demo, now that's its been leaked on Youtube. ;) And I agree...it sounds great, although most of it is rehashed mixes.
@JS: where? That guy's page is totally blank. Sure is most recent activity was today but there is nothing on that page...
@kaka I'm Anonimous and I uploaded the songs...so...I got the songs, but not only the songs that appear in YouTube....the score have got more songs.....HAHAHAHAHAHA
The real tracklist is:
01. On Stranger Tides 02. Guilty Of Being Innocent Of Being Jack Sparrow 03. Guilty Of Being Innocent Of Being Jack Sparrow (Alt) 04. Guilty Of Being Innocent Of Being Jack Sparrow (Alt 2) 05. Jack & Gibbs 06. Jack & Gibbs (Alt) 07. All Part Of The Plan? 08. King George 09. Privateer Barbosa 10. "I Understand Everything... Except That Wig" 11. "I Understand Everything... Except That Wig" (Alt) 12. "Thanks, Dad" 13. Jack Vs. Jack 14. Angellica & Jack 15. Jack Sparrow 16. Jack Sparrow (Alt) 17. Blackbeard's Daughter 18. Queen Anne's Revenge 19. The Spainards 20. English Ship 21. Insert 22. Mutiny 23. Blackbeard 24. Blackbeard (Alt) 25. Here's Jack 26. Fry The Cook 27. Jack Speaks With Blackbeard 28. Jack Speaks With Blackbeard (Alt) 29. Mermaid Waters, That Be Our Path 30. Are We Not King's Men? 31. Whitecap Bay 32. Mermaids 33. Ignorance Is Bliss 34. Ignorance Is Bliss (Alt) 35. Where? 36. Discovery 37. You Will Jump 38. Voodoo Doll Jack 39. Ponce De Leon's Ship 40. Jack & Barbosa 41. Dark Paths
And I added:
. Spanish Camp. Palm Tree Escape . Battle Montage . Blackbeard's Demise . A Pirate's Life For Me . End Credits
Trust me, none of these tracklists match the real thing...
Barbossa99... I have to tip my hat off to you. Call it expanded, complete, or recording sessions, I'm completely stunned at the tracks that you've listed. Thanks, cap'n!
Um...No, you don't have all the songs. Check your notes. You're completely missing music from the last quarter of the movie. You only have 3/4 of the score, friendo. Why you only have that much I have no idea...
@kaka I only got this songs because the score ONLY have this songs When I get it I really hope that it got ALL THE SONGS IN THE MOVIE but....there isn't the latest part in the movie Sorry but....the score is only that songs If you believe me...good. if not....your problem
Actually friendo, I don't have a problem. If that is all you have then that is all you have. I'm just pointing out that that is not all there IS. And that's all I have to say about that. Have a good one.
Me no thinks you should be dissing Hybrid...if anyone knows, it's him. Besides, he's probably had the real complete thing since before the movie even came out.
Nobody is dissing anybody. You're reading me wrong.
@kaka That wasn't directed at you. Sorry, I should have made that more clear.
Oh sorry, then.
I guess kaka is eating their words now, since its been proven these demo tracks DO exist :)
Anyway u can get this on the Final Fantasy Shrine forum now for free
01. Ponce De Leon (On Stranger Tides) 02. Guilty of Being Innocent of Being Jack Sparrow 03. Jack Sparrow In London 04. St. James Palace 05. The Meeting 06. Palace Escape 07. Imposter Swordfight 08. Jack and Angelica 09. Welcome Back to His Majesty's Navy 10. The Queen Anne's Revenge 11. The Prophecy 12. The Mutiny 13. Mutineer's Destiny 14. Fry the Cook 15. Sweetness! 16. Are We Not King's Men? 17. Whitecap Bay 18. Mermaids 19. Sea Ghouls, Devil Fish 20. Seagulls Nesting, Nothing More 21. You're Killing Her 22. The Cliff Jump 23. Push On! 24. El Santiago 25. Walk or Die 26. Syrena 27. Spanish Camp 28. We Need A Tear 29. Palm Tree Escape 30. Battle Montage 31. Blackbeard's Demise 32. A Pirate's Life For Me 33. End Credits
so i take it this means the rest of the score ("demos" or whatever you wanna call this) is pretty much leaked now...hrmph.
Hey! That are my songs! But you should know that the names of those songs I have invented it, not the original names