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Yeah seriously, he hasnít done much in a year plus. Heís definitely taken some time off for touring and other things, which may be a great thing for his inspiration... who knows, but Iím guessing the time off has let his brain take a break and maybe he has a ton of new ideas for the big 3 (WW:84, Dark Phoenix, Lion King) coming up in the next year and a half. <br><br>Or maybe Iím just hopeful/wishful thinking lol.Plus, Blue Planet II came out last year. That score is as far from Widows as possible.I'm not sure, but I think this site is not the right place to ask for copyright, since it is "almost official". But, here you can find the label of every officially released album you want, so you can ask the company labeled.That collaboration was barely a year ago. This is literally Zimmer's first significant score since then. You can't deduce a pattern from two data points.IMDb says that Lorne is one of the 3 composers of Battlefield V. I am confused.... :D
Well, if you check what Hans Zimmer did recently there wasn't much material for him to write a good theme too. A lot of it was types of movies that were synth type music. I think The Dark Phoenix and Wonder Woman (apart from his amazing theme for her already) will have some good typical Hans Zimmer feel to it which I am excited for.For the first time of my life but with sound experience, I assist on that one too.  A very good job from all that team.<br>I only was surprised to not see Hans Zimmer itself and quickly understood that it was "the world of..." and not HZ live ! No regret for my first even if I'm a bit frustrated and regret my mistake ;o)<br>Do you have a tip for me to do it again and avoid that mistake again? When you purchase a ticket, it's hard, you have sometimes to go deeper to see that, finally, he's not gonna be there!<br>Have a great day U all.<br>I wishCool Hybrid! Been at the concert in Oberhausen last Saturday. A lot better then expected to be honest. Pedro's Oogway's Ascend was very good, Pedro outdid himself there (at the 2nd Zimmer concerts I thought he wasnt that great compared to Richard).<br><br>Yeah! The hell are the other comments about though? The Last Stand is miles ahead of X2. You weren't even saying TLS was the best X-men score, you were just saying it's Powell's best score. Man people are dumb
Hi, I want to add some seconds of 8 track for the background of my small documentary about races, my first one, is it possibile to ask for copyright? Should I write to some email addresses?<br>I'm kind of the same way, even on a personal level. The synth and power anthems, even from the Media Ventures era, is just kind of getting old to me. The incessant momentum, the lack of thematic progression, it all wears on you eventually.I think you really nailed how I feel about this score. I donít personally mind the tense electronic elements (this is music that I can enjoy on its own level) but I do feel let down by the lack of a theme or any solid motif to anchor the music. Especially in the emotional cues.<br><br>The one thing that I keep coming back to is how this sounds so much like something Johann Johansson would have written. I actually really like his music style, but it is pretty jarring to see Zimmer do minimalism on this level. No objections here, but I canít wait to get some exciting Zimmer music again.Not for nothing but it's kinda odd how Zimmer has been declining ever since, IMO, his collaboration with Wallfisch on Blade Runner 2049.... <br><br>Honestly, I've been straying towards John Carpenter's Halloween 2018 and horror synth ever since....is Zimmer retiring or something? Because I'm finding myself not into him so much, anymore.I honestly wasn't expecting much from this film on a musical level, but some tracks that are available are OK to listen to. McQueen has never been a proponent of larger-scale thematic music in his scores, he seems to be a mood-inspired person, and Zimmer can do that very, very well. <br><br>Coming back to the music, Zimmer seems to have embraced his textural roots. 2018 has been all about texture really in the action films, i.e. Black Panther's percussion layers, Mission Impossible: Fallout, Widows. Thematically, there seems to be a solemn progression for Marcus that reappears in "My Son", that relies on familiar elements (i.e. drone strings layered on top of each other, lower bass accompaniment), and some of the action textures in "We Have A Job To Do" and "Perimeter Check" is a nice callback to the Media Ventures style of things. <br><br>I'm admittedly disappointed with the fact that there is nothing beyond residually, well-anchored momentum and tension to the score,and the album length is shocking. But it is what it is. I love the underlying, throbbing synth bass ripples, I've always had a soft spot for them. <br><br>Honestly, it's a one time listen for me. I'm more excited about his dual superhero bonanza return next year- Wonder Woman 1984 and X-Men Dark Phoenix. I'm definitely not expecting him to use John Ottman's brilliant theme for the latter, although I will definitely be impressed if by slight chance, he does. The "Money" is quite soothing in a melancholy way. "The Calm Before The Storm" uses some worthwhile sombre piano treading that I'm always a stickler for.
Come to Bratislava, Slovakia too.I wonder with all of the Easter eggs if Jackman will incorporate some character themes like possibly the Imperial March for Storm Troopers Or Disney themed for the Disney characters@Anonymous on the Blu-ray it should have surround sound. Just that it's out on iTunes in Australia already - which is how I got it - and iTunes bonus features are obviously only in stereo.<br><br>@Ahmad - the benefit here is really all the film version edits of the cues we already have on the album. And some of them are quite different from the album ones....<br><br>The tracklist I came up with for now for the iso score. Total runtime is 2:08:16.<br><br>A Storm Is Coming (Logos) / Julia / Good Evening, Mr. Hunt	4:51			<br>Self-Destruct	0:23			<br>Plutonium Trade / A Terrible Choice	6:14			<br>The Manifesto	1:46			<br>Fallout (Main Titles) / Your Mission (Part 1)	2:07			<br>Your Mission (Part 2)	2:21			<br>Free Fall (Part 1)	1:57			<br>Free Fall (Part 2)	2:14			<br>Grand Palais / Consequences Of Love	2:01			<br>Bathroom	6:12			<br>No Pain, No Gain (Outro) / As Ugly As They Come 	2:09			<br>I'll See You In My Dreams / Widow Bar	2:33			<br>The White Widow / Should You Choose To Accept...	5:38			<br>Busy Day Tomorrow	0:41			<br>Framing Ethan / The Exchange	6:37			<br>Escape Through Paris	6:11			<br>Steps Ahead	1:11			<br>Je Suis Dťsolť	1:04			<br>Unfinished Business	0:34			<br>Did You Ever Choose Not To?	1:51			<br>You're Mine Now	0:30			<br>We Are Never Free	4:52			<br>Widow In London	1:45				<br>Trapped	3:14				<br>The Mission Is Terminated	2:02			<br>No Hard Feelings / The Exhortation	6:46			<br>Stairs & Rooftops	6:25			<br>Kashmir	7:10				<br>Julia (Reprise) / Fate Whispers To The Warrior	5:06			<br>And The Warrior Whispers Back	8:20			<br>I Am The Storm (Part 1)	4:12			<br>I Am The Storm (Part 2)	1:21			<br>Scalpel & Hammer	3:47			<br>Cutting On One	1:25			<br>The Last Resort 1:48			<br>There's No Reason To Be Sorry / Mission: Accomplished (Curtain Call)	4:51	<br>End Credits	6:28I wonder what the quality on the disc will be like but definitely not expecting lossless. Three commentaries and the isolated score and language tracks. That's a lot and the movie is not short lol. <br><br>In general, I don't think we're missing much to begin with (but it's really cool and should be done more often). There's a cool bit where the "Syndicate" theme was used I think in the film version of "Escape Through Paris" and the album version doesn't have that bit.ur kidding. is it like the last jedi? why cant it be in surround sound
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Additional Music - Conductor
Hans ZimmerHarry Gregson-WilliamsDon HarperJay Rifkin
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional MusicScore Producer
Broken Arrow (Limited)
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 115'56
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
Fans rating:     rate at 1 out of 5 rate at 2 out of 5 rate at 3 out of 5 rate at 4 out of 5 rate at 5 out of 5   2/5 (9079 votes)
CD1
  1. Rope-A-Dope (5:04)
    Hans Zimmer
  2. The Bomber (2:31)
    Hans Zimmer
  3. Going To War (6:30)
    Hans Zimmer
  4. The Pentagon (Unused) (1:16)
  5. The Search - Broken Arrow (2:42)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  6. Desert Dawn (3:40)
    Hans Zimmer
  7. Day Search (1:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  8. Right Down There (3:26)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  9. Something's Coming (3:50)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  10. 10,000 Years (2:15)
  11. Humvee Chase (4:54)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  12. Mine Shaft 1 (1:53)
    Hans Zimmer
  13. Mine Shaft 2 (15:49)
    Hans Zimmer
CD2
  1. Big Bang (2:15)
  2. Butterflies (1:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Don Harper
  3. The Boat - Stowaway (3:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Don Harper
  4. Breaking Orders (2:18)
    Hans Zimmer, Don Harper
  5. Eat A Bullet (2:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Don Harper
  6. Hammerhead (17:04)
    Hans Zimmer
  7. Nuke Disarmed (End Credits) (7:40)
    Hans Zimmer
  8. Brothers (Original Album Version) (7:07)
    Hans Zimmer
  9. Mine (Original Album Version) (5:43)
    Hans Zimmer
  10. Nuke (Original Album Version) (10:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Don Harper
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MacArthur reply Replies: 4 || 2014-01-13 06:12:58
Is this a good score?

never listened to it.


Anonymous2014-01-13 06:36:40
Watch the movie, then ask....


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-13 08:11:18
It's pretty good. Think classic mid-90s MV action, Drop Zone/The Rock style, with some random Western elements thrown in, mostly some really cool guitar work courtesy of Duane Eddy. "Hammerhead" and "Nuke Disarmed (End Credits)" are between them 25 minutes of solid awesomeness.


Mike2014-01-13 15:08:50
Thanks for bringing this up. Now I have something new to listen to while studying. ;)


Ds2014-01-13 21:26:39
I LOVE this score. Really, its sound makes me really nostalgic. To me, along with The Rock, it's THE ultimate 90s filmmusic. Catchy main themes with guitars, mad synth, fantastic percussions and religious-like choir, it's a good ride. This thread just makes me wanna listen to it again, thanks buddies :p

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 4 || 2011-02-25 00:00:00
Let's go for all the credits I have from Broken Arrow, based on various sources (Ascap, BMI, Gema, promos and websites).
I only listed cues I have credits for, no "wondering" at all. I have all the credits for the Milan edition, the only problem is that they are mixes of separate cues from the Lala edition. Then you cannot tell exactly who did what on each "sub-cue".

It'a bit complicated, read carefully ! =)


1. Rope-a-Dope (aka "Main titles" aka "Brothers") >>> HZ / DH / HGW
2. The Bomber >>> used in "Secure" that is credited to Zimmer alone
3. Going to War >>> used in "Brothers" (credited to HZ/DH/HGW) and "Secure" (HZ alone)
4. The Pentgon (?)
5. The Search - Broken Arrow (?)
6. Desert Dawn >>> used in "Stealth" that is credited HZ / HGW
7. Day Search (?)
8. Right Down There (?)
9. Something's Coming (?)
10. 10,000 Years (?)
11. Humvee Chase >>> used in "Stealth" that is credited HZ / HGW
12. Mine Shaft 1 >>> there's a cue called "Mine Shaft" on BMI credited to HZ alone
13. Mine Shaft 2 >>> used in "Mine" (HZ alone) and "Nuke" (HZ / DH)

01. Big Bang (?)
02. Butterflies >>> used in "Nuke" (HZ / DH)
03. The Boat - Stowaway >>> featured on a DH promo, credited to DH on BMI
04. Breaking Orders >>> credited to DH
05. Eat a Bullet >>> featured on a DH promo & website
06. Hammerhead >>> used in "Greed" and "Hammerhead" both credited to HZ alone
07. End Credits >>> used in "Broken Arrow" credited to Zimmer alone


CruZControL2012-09-27 14:50:28
So, basically, if we also take into account Randy Edelman's "contribution" based on the official credits, the final tracklist goes somewhat like this:

selected tracks:
01. Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams & Don Harper - Rope-A-Dope
02. Hans Zimmer - The Bomber
03. Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams & Don Harper vs Randy Edelman - Going To War / Fire In A Brooklyn Theater
04. Hans Zimmer vs Randy Edelman - The Pentagon
05. Hans Zimmer - The Search / Broken Arrow
06. Hans Zimmer & Harry Gregson-Williams - Desert Dawn
07. Hans Zimmer - Day Search
08. Hans Zimmer - Right Down There
09. Hans Zimmer - Something's Coming
10. Hans Zimmer vs Randy Edelman - 10.000 Years
11. Hans Zimmer & Harry Gregson-Williams - Humvee Chase
12. Hans Zimmer - Mine Shaft 1
13. Hans Zimmer & Don Harper vs Randy Edelman - Mine Shaft 2
14. Hans Zimmer - Big Bang
15. Hans Zimmer & Don Harper - Butterflies
16. Don Harper vs Randy Edelman - The Boat / Stowaway
17. Don Harper vs Randy Edelman - Breaking Orders
18. Don Harper - Eat A Bullet
19. Hans Zimmer vs Randy Edelman - Hammerhead
20. Hans Zimmer - Nuke Disarmed
21. Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams & Don Harper - Brothers
22. Hans Zimmer vs Randy Edelman - Mine
23. Hans Zimmer & Don Harper - Nuke


CruZControL2012-09-27 14:51:48
Nevermind the tracknumbers, forgot to separate the discs. My bad.


Dawn2012-09-28 10:43:00
@CruZControl
Your mistake is to consider that cues with no known credits are by Zimmer alone. I'm pretty sure "The Search" or "Right Down There" are by other composers, based on the style (probably HGW).
By the way, cues like "The Boat - Stowaway" or "Eat a Bullet" were featured on Harper's website and promos, but as it is additional music, you should add Zimmer in the credits too (the same way Humvee Chase was written by HGW based on ideas by HZ, thus having both HZ/HGW credited in it).

And the Randy Edelman "credits" were added 15 years later by Lalaland to avoid legal issues because Zimmer's theme sounded a little bit like a melody in Fire in a Brooklyn Theater. Cues in no way contain Edelman's contribution.


CruZControL2012-09-28 14:21:29
@Dawn
Yeah, I never meant that Edelman actively contributed in this soundtrack, I'm just including his name based on the LLL info, nothing more.

As for the other cues, I'm pretty sure you're right, but since we don't have official confirmation on those, I can't include or remove a composer's name based on a hunch. I was just collecting all the data we've gathered through the years, like Mr.Tweedy and others before me have already done (and to whom I'm grateful).

Btw, in my personal tags, I'm making two further title edits;
(1) "Hammerhead" -> "Hammerhead (Expanded Version)"
so as not to confuse the track with the original release's Hammerhead
(2) "Nuke Disarmed" -> "Broken Arrow"
since this is how it was originally titled.
This is just my personal preference for my tags, don't shoot. I just want to be consistent in my playlists and so on ;)

Peter Jacobs reply Replies: 0 || 2012-06-15 04:52:24
This is by far one of my all time favorites. I came across this score by mistake on La La Land's website and decided to purchase it. So glad I did.

And by the way, the supposed Recording Sessions bootleg isn't better than this. So stick with buying the official release supporting more Zimmer releases.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 7 || 2011-04-25 00:36:42
HS... I haven't stole anything from you. The recording sessions that I have posted isn't a useless bootleg... it's legit. Some of the tracks that I've posted was not available in the original soundtrack, bootlegged score, or the official La-La Land release. Don's suite and theatrical trailers were not in the official releases or bootleg... until now.

As much as I respect you, Hybrid, I have never stolen any of your sources... and HZLeaks was right. He did compile the list as is... including the exclusive Deakin's Theme.


HZLeaks2011-04-25 01:11:03
The DH suite is from a promo but hey, good luck to the general score fan finding that if you dont have this release. Even more so for Deakin's Theme!


T-Mann0362011-04-25 01:26:17
In actuality, I do have the recording sessions. Anyways, thanks HZLeaks for pointing it out.


Per2011-04-25 01:48:58
Deakin's Theme, exclusive ? ... isn't that just the last 4 minutes of "Broken Arrow" (End Credits) !?! ;)


Hybrid Soldier2011-04-25 19:48:40
It IS pointless...

It's not genuine at all, it's just a fan edit... Everything can be found in previously existing OSTs, bootlegs or promos...

T-Mann, for a "RCP fan", you look like you don't know much about RCP bootlegs ! And if you decide to take Takehiro, HZLeaks or whoever's edits as Gospels' Word, then amen to that, but don't feel obliged to "share" here every tracklist you find on FFShrine...

PS : Yeah, as you probably understood, I HATE that ! ;)

PS 2 : Yeah, Deakin's Theme is just an edit of the End Title, so again POINTLESS...


Mr Tweedy2011-04-25 19:59:01
In the "pointless area", I think that adding trailer music + 20th Century Fox Fanfare is reeeeally pointless too ! =)
Adding trailer music can be interesting when it has some links with the music heard in the movie (the Pearl Harbor international trailer music is a good example) but not when it's just stock music for trailers, and not even written by the score composer (or his team members).
In this case, it's just a lazy way to add artificially some more minutes of music that are not even part of the score ! I'm sure that a new "recording session" will pop up with some "Broken Arrow suites" done by some fans...


Anonymous2011-04-26 00:19:04
Trailer music or TV spots or anything related to the film is welcome to me. Its not like someone stuck on bonus tracks from another movie. At any rate the bonus tracks are related to the movie. Its nice to have them round off the album.

And I dont think that to be fan of anything that means you need to be a big head either.


T-Mann0362011-04-26 02:26:56
Yeah... whatever.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-26 00:14:24
Hybrid... all I ever said to you "I respect you", but somehow you don't seem to appreciate... share or no share.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 3 || 2011-04-24 21:11:20
Complete Recording Sessions--

DISC 1

1. 20th Century Fox Fanfare (w. Alfred Newman, ar. Eliot Goldenthal) - 0:22
2. Brothers - 5:02
3. Hangar - 1:52
4. Secured - 0:39
5. Stealth - 6:16
6. Crash - 0:16
7. Pentagon - 1:16
8. No Nukes - 2:41
9. Desert - 3:41
10. Got One - 1:28
11. Canyon - 3:24
12. Chopper - 3:48
13. Fax - 2:14
14. Trucks - 4:53
15. Offroad - 1:51
16. Mine - 18:00
17. Butterflies - 1:56
18. Stowaway - 3:26


DISC 2

1. Orders - 2:16
2. Max - 2:14
3. Hammerhead - 17:03
4. Broken Arrow - 7:33
5. Brothers (Alternate) - 5:04
6. Hangar (Alternate) - 1:51
7. Stealth (Alternate) - 6:17
8. Butterflies (Alternate) - 1:56
9. Suite (Composed by Don Harper) - 3:33
10. End Titles - 7:16
11. Blasphemy (TV Spot, Composed by Immediate Music) - 1:21
12. International Trailer (Composed by John Beal) - 2:21
13. Deakin's Theme - 3:59


Music Composed by
HANS ZIMMER

Additional Music
DON HARPER & HARRY GREGSON-WILLIAMS

Conductors
DON HARPER & BRUCE FOWLER

Orchestrator
LADD McINTOSH

Guitars
DUANE EDDY & BOB DASPIT

Trombone
BRUCE FOWLER

Weird Noises
RYELAND ALLISON

Vocals
LISBETH SCOTT

Score Technical Adviser
SLAMM ANDREWS

Score Mixing Assistant
BRIAN RICHARDS


Hybrid Soldier2011-04-24 21:34:55
What's the point in poisoning the site with useless bootlegs, can you answer that T-Mann ?

It's just an edit of the bootleg, the OST & the LLL...

And most of the alt were stolen from my version...


HZLeaks2011-04-24 23:55:43
Hey, no-one stole anything from you HS, I compiled this myself! And Deakin's Theme is not on any of the boots or the LLL.


Anonymous2011-04-25 00:13:16
I have to say it aint pointless to me. The music on here is clean and unedited with no "whoosh" sounds like on the normal score. And it has both versions of butterflies on there, film version and alternate. If anything the bonus tracks on the LLL release were pointless!! :P

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-02 00:00:00
I felt sorry that Gregson-Williams wasn't credited in the official La-La Land release of Broken Arrow.

fs reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-02 00:00:00
Why is on the back cover and in the liner notes always the info that some tracks "contain music 'fir in a brooklyn theatre' composed by randy edelman". Its actually not anywhere in those marked tracks... maybe a theme has some similiarities but it was very unecessary to to put that text there.

The whole liner notes are a little bit strange...had the feel it was written with hate (imho).

Broken reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-02 00:00:00
found a little sentence in liner notes which has some "answers":

"A final all-purpose action motive is an adaption of Randy Edelman's famous "Fire in a Brooklyn Theater" cue from the film "Come see the Paradise (1990); the piece turned up in countless movie trailers throughout the 90's and is cited on the Broken Arrow cue sheet. Also credited for additional music are Zimmer-regulars Don Harper and Harry Gregson-Williams."

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-02 00:00:00
Kaplan, who wrote the notes, is indeed not exactly Zimmer's greatest fan... So why the hell writing those notes ?

:O

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-08 00:00:00
It's fun that the booklet doesn't credit HGW at all, and Harper only as Conductor...

Even the assistants are credits, but no word about the guys who helped writing the score (!) haha :D

bladerunner reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-07 00:00:00
I love Harry Gregson-Williams!!!

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-07 00:00:00
@Nicolas

If you want to put major "new-music-only" cues : "Right Down There", "The Boat - Stowaway" & "Breaking Orders".

If you mostly want to put highlights, no matter if they contain previously released music : "Desert Dawn", "Mine Shaft 2" and "Nuke Disarmed (End Credits)" !

=)

Danny G. reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-06 00:00:00
@ Nicolas - Webmaster
Might I suggest "Hammerhead" "Going To War" & "Humvee Chase"?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-06 00:00:00
Sorry Nico, didn't have quite the time to answer you...

You should definitely put Right Down There, which is totally new (even unofficially)...

Then, I don't really know, it's up to the others... ;)

Nicolas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-06 00:00:00
Which tracks from this cd would you like to have on the webradio ? :) (2-3 tracks)

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-25 00:00:00
Interesting points, Mr Tweedy. "Mine Shaft 1" sounds quite a bit like HG-W to me. Many of his signature synth sounds are present in that track, reminiscent somewhat of Armageddon and Enemy of the State

MrJason reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-24 00:00:00
which tracks did harry gregson williams do?

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-24 00:00:00
HGW was credited for the Milan's edition cues Brothers (aka Rope-a-Dope, along with Harper) and Stealth (Desert Dawn + Humvee Chase).
We can't really tell what he did on those cues (full arrangements ? some help here and there ?)

"Right Down There" sounds a lot like Harry's The Replacement Killers action style to me.

I think we'll find more informations soon !

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-22 00:00:00
"I didn't noticed anything else but would need to get through the LLL release fully to see if other things are differents from the Bootleg... :P "

Well, the punch sounds in the End Credits is present on the LLL. To name one thing.

If the Butterflies piece were the reason for them to have the whole Nuke (and Mine for that matter) track included, it would have been much better to simply have the original Butterflies cue without the guitar as a bonus track. Perhaps what's on their release is the only material/mixes they got handed over... Who knows...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-22 00:00:00
Yeah that's what I did Per ! haha :D

Just noticed "The Bomber" in the original 96 release (in "Secure") has some extra guitar over it, and "Going To War" (in "Brothers") has a cool harmonica addition...

And, as mentioned before, "Butterflies" (in "Nuke") does not have the extra guitar added to the LLL release...

I didn't noticed anything else but would need to get through the LLL release fully to see if other things are differents from the Bootleg... :P

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-22 00:00:00
What fabien meant, I believe, is that if you combine this new La-La Land with the unofficial 2CD version, we have pretty much a fully complete score (of what's used in the film anyways)... you know, since this new one have a couple of minor differences (in the mix, mostly, I guess) as to what's heard in the film.

Just received my CD today, so haven't been able to listen through it all yet... But I have noticed a couple of (new) things. When I first saw the tracklist, it was near to (for me) perfect, but I didn't like so much that they seemed to have combined the two shortest tracks into other cues (in track 2+3 CD1). Although I noticed from the timings it actually could fit that they added the short cues at the end, without actually fading them together. But of course, that wouldn't make any sense... But now that I've checked it out, what is it like; just like that ! There's actually almost ! more or less complete silence between the cues. Don't get me wrong, I actually hoped for that, and prefer that ! However, that brings up the obvious question; What's the point ... Why not just placing them in separate tracks in the first place then. It would be, and look, so much better. I can't understand anything other than this had to be a contractual reason for doing so (not having short tracks). But if not, it's certainly a weird decision... and it actually appear a bit amateurish ... but that's just my opinion.

You have the main title music without those punching sounds, as it's already been mentioned (somewhere), and that's good. But the End Credits does have those punch sound effects, like on the original release, unfortunately. They're not in the film though ... And fortunately, not on the unofficial 2CD version either :)

A little correction (or "apology" if you will, lol) of what I've said before about the difference with the content of the original Milan release; Firstly, my excuse for doing this mistake(s) is that I simply haven't listened any particularely to the original release the last few years. At least not after I got the unofficial release. But there is at least a couple of other differences in the mix (other than the punch sounds etc.), which Hybrid Soldier mentioned on the FSM forum. I'll probably have to, and most likely will do so too, compare all versions second by second, lol.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-22 00:00:00
Sorta. Its still not perfect.

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-22 00:00:00
with the 88 min score this is now complete!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-18 00:00:00
"Oh and, where have you listened to punching sounds on the broken arrow/end credits cue before?" ->

It's on the original Milan. At least on mine (I have the original '96 US pressing... different content on other issues ?). But it's only for like 10 seconds around 2 min. into the track :)

Zed reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-18 00:00:00
I hope all of Mr. Zimmer's scores get at least close to full releases! There's too much great music in all the films he has done that hasn't been printed onto CD. I have a feeling it may just be starting to happen... I also love to see that there are tracks 15 and 17 mins long. I miss the old style soundtracks he use to release with only 5 to 8 tracks on them, all with long suites of music.

Take care guys and girls and let's look forward to another great year of music from the MASTER!!!

P.S. You may like some of my music at http://www.myspace.com/zaalentallis - love writing bold themes and gutsy tunes. Enjoy!

Iceboy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-18 00:00:00
Nuke/Mine contains nothing new; in fact, Nuke is a little shorter. I think the bonus tracks were strange choices. They should have hired me to produce the score, I would have done it a bit differently! :P At least they gave us the Butterflies cue without guitar in some form, though.

If you wanna get in touch, look for Gavin Salkeld composer on google

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-17 00:00:00
Interesting, it seems the lalaland team loves to replace some "film version" cues by alternate versions (Broken Arrow, Speed 2...) !
This explains why "Nuke" appears as on the original album version, as it contain "butterflies" as it is heard in the movie...
Iceboy, you can add the "Broken Arrow suite" by Don Harper too, as it contains slightly different arrangements of "The Boat" and "Eat a Bullet" !

Iceboy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-17 00:00:00
Why do they NEVER get it right? Why cant we have the film music as heard in the film without alternates in amongst it? Put them as bonus tracks, fine, but not with the rest of the score. Id rather alternates be bonus tracks than be in the actual film score section. I am looking forward to the linear notes.

Don Harper's arrangements are the actual basic tracks he composed, before Zimmer added stuff to them to make the film versions.

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