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I think what Lorne wrote for the last 30 min of the movie is way better than what ended in the movie... Lorne tried to elevate what was going on on screen, but it was probably too "bold" for the taste of production... They wanted to keep as "kow key" as possible but to me it made the ending of the film fall super flat...
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<br>In the end there isn't that much Lorne in the film (most of the "Moon" reel is Lorne though, that big 4 notes motif appearing during the moon landing and then takeoff). Ironically most of the droning you're all complaining about is not that much Lorne... lol
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<br>I really hope Lorne will put out as much music as possible, even all the unused parts, which are the more interesting ones !Taking in the movie now after having seen it. The cinematography is brilliant, and there are some interesting concepts that really will have you thinking long after walking out of the theater. Still, I couldn’t help but feel like the film dragged throughout. Coupled with the voiceover the movie has a very ‘Terence Malick-y’, “Thin Red Line” feel throughout.<br><br>I’m definitely not familiar with Max Richter so I can’t comment on what he might have written, but Balfe’s broad-chord style is pretty recognizable throughout. There are also some interesting electronic pieces used throughout, possibly might be Balfe but hard to say as of now. The rest of the music is pretty contemplative, ranging from slow/emotional string pieces to more ambient droning.Well, I heard only Balfe's "Prayer" and Richter's "To the stars"... All I can say is we need to wait for the full release, hear both composers and only then talk about who better coped with this. (and watch the movie of course)<br>I don't think Balfe is a bad composer. He does pretty good as an additional composer but not as a leading (mostly). The only soundtrack that I consider the best to date in his solo career is "M:I-Fallout" and "Assassin's Creed III". (imo)<br>Who knows what will be this time. But for now I like Richter's track more.I'm just waiting for Gemini Man, that (i hope) would be funI love that cue.
So I created a page for it, move away from Ghost In The Shell !! :PI wonder if this track is the one causing consternation: Nils Frahm: 'Says' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIwwjy4slI8<br><br>It sounds a bit like what Richter and Balfe could produce, but it is much more artistic than Balfe and much more synth-based than Richter. Frahm is credited for additional music.Not writing negative comments about Balfe for the purpose of writing negative comments - ie. trolling - but for the fact that Balfe does not seem to take film composition seriously. Goldsmith had a similar pace in the 1990s that equates to contemporary Balfe, but he managed to produce fantastic scores like Air Force One in a few weeks (yes, with some help from McNeeely). Balfe simply does not seem to have those skills so he resorts to cliches and drony nonsense. I await to be proven wrong. That Balfe track is not half-bad so I do maintain a general sense of expectation for this.Not any more lame than the Balfe cueLorne says it will be released and insists it’s not a GITS situation.
That's been standard in certain cases, though considerably less nowadays with how complicated these situations have become.<br><br>Having heard both tracks posted, both give me little on their own. I'm sure they work better in the context of the film, and we might see better tracks unveiled eventually.He deserve better.Hans and Lorne like twins. Lorne has a very good personality. I still don't understand why some people are still writing bad comments to Lorne?Probably... lolSo is this how it’s gonna be? Official release for Richter and leaks by Balfe :(Lorne posted a track from Ad Astra on his YouTube channel
Thank you. And i suppose "Need You Busting My Balls - End Credits" title would correspond to ASCAP "Need You Busting My Balls" + "RUSH END CREDITS", while "Just Married" to "RUSH MAIN ON END"?That’s literally the best part of the score though. But it’s typical Richter (Miss Sloane, Black Mirror: Nosedive).Hunt Drunken Weirdness is barely a cue actually, it's just a patch up of sound designs by Mel...<br><br>Italian Party is a name I made up for a cue that's not used in the movie ! :)In ASCAP there is a cue "HUNT DRUNKEN WEIRDNESS" - is this by a chance an alias to "Italian Party", which is absent in ASCAP. Though there are different credits Zimmer/Wesson vs Zimmer/Klebe.https://open.spotify.com/ track/2UcUL4jytfVpW0jSXi3Ggi?si=ETyixI67R5u9AOU1YuClPw<br><br>very lame the cue from Max...
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Hans ZimmerGeoff ZanelliDominic LewisTom Gire
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional MusicAdditional Music
Rango
Label: Anti Records
Length: 34'18
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  1. Welcome Amigo (1:06)
    Rick Garcia, Kenneth Karman, Gore Verbinski, James Ward Byrkit
  2. Rango Suite (5:58)
    Hans Zimmer
  3. Certain Demise (0:24)
    Heitor Pereira (Produced by Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski)
  4. Medley : It's A Metaphor / Forkboy (0:43)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli / Lard
  5. Welcome To Dirt (0:58)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  6. Name's Rango (1:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Dominic Lewis
  7. Lizard For Lunch (1:26)
    Jose Hernandez, Anthony Zuniga, Robert Lopez, Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  8. Stuck In Guacamole (0:21)
    Heitor Pereira (Produced by Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski)
  9. Underground (3:18)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  10. We Ride, Really! (0:51)
    John Thum, David Thum, Geoff Zanelli, William Malpede (Produced by Hans Zimmer)
  11. Rango And Beans (1:04)
    Hans Zimmer
  12. Medley : Bats / Rango Theme / Ride of The Valkyries / An Der Schönen Blauen Donau, Op. 314 (4:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler, John Thum, David Thum, Louis Knatchbull
  13. The Bank's Been Robbed (0:23)
    Rick Garcia, Kenneth Karman, Gore Verbinski, James Ward Byrkit
  14. Rango Returns (1:16)
    Hans Zimmer, Dominic Lewis
  15. La Muerte A Llegado (0:45)
    Rick Garcia, George Del Hoyo, Kenneth Karman, Gore Verbinski, James Ward Byrkit
  16. It's A Miracle (1:58)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  17. El Canelo (0:44)
    Los Lobos, Gore Verbinski
  18. The Sunset Shot (0:53)
    Hans Zimmer
  19. Walk Don't Rango (2:49)
    Los Lobos, Arturo Sandoval, John Thum, David Thum, Michael Levine (Produced by Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski)
  20. Rango Theme Song (3:57)
    Los Lobos, John Thum, David Thum, Michael Levine (Produced by Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski)
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Anna Proskurina reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-08 00:00:00
Good D! Who is Rango? Listen music!!!
Thanks!!!

tomPoland reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-06 00:00:00
Well, maybe Djawadi will do something atmospheric like MoH - he's best so far. And I hope that this TV show will be huge success - maybe this will force Martin to finish those f****g book!

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-05 00:00:00
Ahh, I was wondering when they were gonna switch from Megamind to Rango on the main page =)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-05 00:00:00
fix the ironclad link on the frontpage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-05 00:00:00
I wish the main theme was called "The Rango Tango" :-p

tomPoland reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-05 00:00:00
Djawadi replaced Warbeck in "Game of Thrones". It's true or not?

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-05 00:00:00
@tompoland,

if that's true, Warbeck is getting sloppy! he was replaced by Badelt on Killshot too...
shame, he did some amazing scores in the past, like captain corelli and shakespeare!

Miles Blitch reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-04 00:00:00
The tune of "Rango Theme Song" sounds somewhat similar to the classic Western song "Ghost Riders In the Sky," but with more of a mariachi flavor and enough variation to avoid being a carbon copy. It's incredibly catchy!

Miles Blitch reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-04 00:00:00
BTW, the soundtrack will be available for download March 1st. I'll try to resist listening until after the movie!

Enrico reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-04 00:00:00
Where can we find clips?

Antas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-04 00:00:00
@Enrico :
soundtrack-movie.com/rango/

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-04 00:00:00
aw i thought there were actual track samples on that page :-(

zox reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-04 00:00:00
o come on, why are you rating something that you haven't listened yet?!

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
Wicked theme song, thanks for the tip ''2011/02/02'' :D
It's like RAAWWWWWWHIDEEEE!

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
Sounds really good, but strangely familiar...

John reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
Blazing Saddles perhaps?

Zimmerito reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
Exactly Hybrid, the suite :D

Hybrid, I want to ask you about some "additional" music. Can you tell me what Zimmer composed in :

"at witt's End and "
"I don't think Now is the best time"

"psycological recover...16 monts"

"Air"
"fire"

I noticed you have a lot of information about it, and I really want to know more about who composed what in his scores. Zimmer is my second favourite composer (goldsmith is the first ), and even if I can notice when Zimmer is the composer or not of some piece without reading the credits, I really want to know every single official credit you can give me ;)
Thank you!

jordivcecilia@hotmail.com

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-02 00:00:00
listen to the rango theme song here

soundcloudDOTcom/antirecords/los-lobos-rango-theme-song

This is from the la times music blog

By the time Los Lobos were brought in to contribute music to "Rango," band principal David Hidalgo estimates that there were already somewhere between 12 and 20 takes at the theme to Gore Verbinski's spaghetti western-like animated feature. It was composer Hans Zimmer, said Hidalgo, who admitted defeat at trying to craft authentic mariachi music.

"They could do it on their own, but it sounded funny," Hidalgo told Pop & Hiss. "It didn’t sound authentic. So they needed some Mexicans in there. That doesn’t sound kosher and it doesn’t sound right to say it that way, but in a way it is. You need someone who knows this music, someone to play it properly and get the real effect. That’s why they called us in."

Hidalgo hasn't seen how the band's music is used in the film -- a couple of storyboards and some rough scenes were all the band has been shown -- but the act's "Rango" theme will no doubt play a pivotal role, and act as an anchor to the soundtrack. Paramount Pictures' "Rango," about a Johnny Depp-voiced chameleon having an identity crisis, and who suddenly finds himself in a desert town with all the action of the Wild West, is the first animated feature from "Pirates of the Caribbean" director Verbinski.

"Rango" the film will be unveiled to the public on March 4, and "Rango" the song makes its debut below. Local label Anti- will release the soundtrack digitally on March 1, with a CD version available in stores on March 15.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-02 00:00:00
it's just that we know from experience that his best work is done alone, and not with an army of composers.

Julien Brunet reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-02 00:00:00
Please, everybody stop immediately with the unanswered question : What did Zimmer compose on each record? Zimmer is a genius, even if he doesn't manage the full orchestration. He is "unique" such as a Morricone, a Williams, a Barry, a Goldsmith, a Desplat or even a Sakamato or a Hisaishi.
I mean when Zimmer composed Rain Man or Black rain was by himself and I am sure that on the thin red line the whole genius part is come from his mind. So just everybody should admire such a composer please. He gave so much.
With Morricone and Williams, he is the best. He produced a revolution.
Thank you.

Zimmerito reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-01 00:00:00
Now with the runnings times, we know which tracks are by Zimmer :P

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-01 00:00:00
Yeah... the Suite... lol :D

Indiana reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-01 00:00:00
Too short !!!!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-01 00:00:00
is the song welcome amigo composed by hans? or is it an existing song?

I hope hans has done more than the suite! But I guess the suite will be the best on the album!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-31 00:00:00
@Adrain --- I agree with you. Except the "I prefer Jablonsky over Zimmer" part :D

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-31 00:00:00
@Enrico,

I don't agree with you on Steve Jablonsky... He knows very well how to use it and make something of his own. Although his style on TF or Dragon Wars is quite close to Zimmers, there is a lot of Jab in it too. A track like Optimus is a perfect blend with electronics and orchestra. The Island awaits you is perfect use of an orchestra with coir, in my opinion. Unfortunately, I can't say why. I guess it comes down most of the time on what you like.
Personally, I would even prefer Jablonsky over Zimmer! Not only by orchestra, but also thematically.

But actually: it's comparing pears and apples (or whatever the English saying is).

Pete reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-29 00:00:00
that's true Enrico. Zimmer's work is far above the efforts of the additional composers when they score their own movies. I'm sure he does an awful lot himself and the others help with sequencing and writing some cues under his supervision. Lots of composers do this, even traditional composers like John Williams will sketch out a theme and give it to Conrad Pope or another orchestrator to finish. Obviously the additional composers are more involved than this, but I think at the end of the day Hans likes to give lots of credits to people who help. Good for him.

This is my guess anyway. Maybe Hybrid can tell if I'm right or wrong :-)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-29 00:00:00
Lorne was finishing Megamind when Rango was starting, and then did The Dilemma, so unless he hid it to me, he didn't work on Rango...

Well, "Additional Music" can be from "orchestrator" to "co-composer"... As HZ said 5 years ago in an interview, he really ruined the meaning of Additional Music ! :D

For the different meanings :

"Additional Music" : Someone who arranges the composer's cues (adapting pre-existing themes & segments to actual scenes in the film (like, make a 2:17 HZ synth theme fit a 3:18 cue and orchestrate it etc...) & write some on his own (meaning he can write subthemes (for instance Geoff Zanelli in POTC 2 writing Tia Dalma's theme).

"Additional Music Arranger" or "Music Arranger" : A bit like what I just said apart from the writing part... Someone who adapts cues (for instance Nick Glennie-Smith's variation on the Gladiator Waltz in Barbarian Horde, or Trevor Morris adding a trombone at the end of A Way Of Life in The Last Samurai...

"Synth Programming" or "Music Programmer", "Sequencer Programmer" (or "Ambient Music Designer") : Basically an arranger, but in a more technical way... Adding samples here & there... For instance Bart Hendrickson adding drums all around in POTC 1, or Mel Wesson adding weird sounds all around in the same score...

All this generally being called in general "Additional Music"... And sometimes, you have guys credited "Music Programmer" (like all the Armageddon guys) when they actually are "Additional Music", or in that same score HGW being "Additional Music" when he should "Co-Composer"...

All the assistants are useful cause with Remote Control big computers, servers & high tech stuff, you basically CAN'T do something alone, you always have to have someone in a secondary computer even if that's just to push one button ! :D

As for HZ, he generally composes big theme suites and the guys just make it fit a movie... And when someone is done with a cue, HZ comes back behind to check if it fits the scene, the score style etc... And might rearrange it himself if it's not that great... ;)

Enrico reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-29 00:00:00
I don't think JJ, lots of composers that works alone, without Zimmer, make really BAD, BAD soundtrack, the quality of Zimmer's work and style can be heard on every CD.
On THE DARK KNIGHT he told that he let the composers marks contracts just to help them with money.

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