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Okay, seriously, is EVERYONE other than me, Hybrid and Zimson here a creationist?<br><br>Or am I just the only guy stupid enough to bother responding...So the choice comes down to either believing that life just magically created itself from absolutely nothing or believing that God created it.  It seems to me that it takes more faith to believe in evolution.  As I said before, if I'm wrong, what have I lost?  If your wrong then God help you.Here's another quote. This from Dr. John Ross of Harvard University:<br><br>"…There are no known violations of the second law of thermodynamics. Ordinarily the second law is stated for isolated systems, but the second law applies equally well to open systems."Kelvin (hardly a Creationist) described the 2nd law of thermodynamics as follows: "There is no natural process the only result of which is to cool a heat reservoir and do external work."  <br><br>This law observes the fact that the usable energy in the universe is becoming less and less. Ultimately there would be no available energy left. Stemming from this fact we find that the state of any natural system is one of disorder. All natural systems, open or closed, degenerate when left to themselves, thus the theory of evolution will never be more than a theory.<br>You're being brainwashed, says the guy who bases his entire belief system on a 2,000-year-old collection of random texts.<br><br>PRICELESS.<br><br>I'm done here.
Ed, The entropy principle applies as much to open systems as to closed systems. In an isolated real system, shut off from external energy, the entropy (or disorganization) will always increase. In an open system (such as the earth receiving an influx of heat energy from the sun), the entropy also always will increase and as a matter of fact, will usually increase more rapidly than if the system remained closed. Anyone familiar with the actual equations of heat flow will know that a simple influx of heat energy into a system increases the entropy of that system; it does not decrease it, as evolution would demand. Opening a system to external energy does not resolve the entropy problem at all, but rather makes it worse.  Try again.Anonymous, I think you're wasting your time with edmund.  He has been brainwashed by the anti-God liberal science and academia to believe that a theory is somehow a fact.  Those of us who have faith and belief in God know the truth and that's what matters most.  God bless buddy.Mac what you say is plain stupid... It's the notion of God & what it basically brought to mankind so far... I don't hate "God", there isn't any, I hate the creeps trying to put inside the head of everyone that there is one (or several, whatever) !<br><br>And if there was one, (s)he would so facepalm so much watching the state of this planet, that's for sure ! :DMacArthur, I don't hate God and I don't hate people for believing in God. What I do hate is when people use their God as an excuse to get in the way of reason, scientific advance, fairness, equality or just plain common sense. I'm not an atheist, incidentally. I guess you'd call me an agnostic - I believe what seems most realistic to me, and I'd put my trust in science, research and intellect over faith and dusty ancient texts 10 times over 10.<br><br>Stop it with the Second Law of Thermodynamics, please. It only applies to closed energy systems that don't receive a constant flow of energy from an external source. Living things aren't closed systems - they receive energy from the food they consume. Hell, the earth itself is an open system - it gets energy from the Sun, which, don't forget, is responsible for ALL LIFE - and hence the Second Law and entropy don't apply to it either. Also, stop saying "evolution is just a theory" - gravity is technically "just a theory" too, so have fun jumping off a high building!<br><br>And of course evolution isn't going to apply to a rock. Rocks aren't alive. Rocks don't procreate. Rocks don't develop traits that give them advantages over other rocks. Rocks don't CARE whether they have advantages over other rocks!<br><br>To everyone else reading this, look, I'm sorry for clogging the forum with unrelated stuff like this, guys. I know this is turning into a YouTube comments section. I just can't believe that it's 2014, where pretty much everyone has the fount of all human knowledge at their fingertips, and there's STILL debate over this. THAT'S the thing in this thread which has come closest to making me doubt evolution.And then comes my question to everyone...Coming from a guy whose religion and faith mean everything to him, and who wishes they would be equally important for everyone else, in the interest of what he believes to be the truth...<br><br>WHY are we having this long and drawn-out debate on a music site? Can't it be taken to other boards?
x4. Yeah, the poem thing was pretty pointless. It wasn't even read in an engaging way.Zimson, yeah you're right, Ed's logic and facts don't work here because they are neither logical or factual.  Remember the word "theory" man, evolution is only a theory for a reason.  I like what MacArthur said...  You'd better indeed be right that there is no God, because I'd hate to be you when you find out there is one.Here is my Question for Atheists. why do you hate God so much when be your belief system he doesn't exist. So what do you have to worry about. <br><br>Except for the fact that if you don't believe he exists. You'd better be right!Looked on Amazon.co.uk &#163;40 (~$60) is very expensive. At least it's being released though.Ed, leave it. Logic and Facts don't work here.
x3x2 :DTim,<br><br>The poem track is the worse thing I have ever heard30.01.2015 in Germany.SHUT UP! Just talk about the music. THE MUSIC. That is why we are all here. This is a small group, stop fighting about your beliefs and just enjoy what you have in common. I am so sick of seeing all of this bickering. It is ridiculous how childish its gets around here. Please, just stop.
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German-born composer Hans Zimmer is recognized as one of Hollywood’s most innovative musical talents‚ having first enjoyed success in the world of pop music as a member of The Buggles. The group’s single Video Killed the Radio Star became a worldwide hit and helped usher in a new era of global entertainment as the first music video to be aired on MTV.

Zimmer entered the world of film music in London during a long collaboration with famed composer and mentor Stanley Myers‚ which included the film My Beautiful Laundrette. He soon began work on several successful solo projects‚ including the critically acclaimed A World Apart‚ and during these years Zimmer pioneered the use of combining old and new musical technologies. Today‚ this work has earned him the reputation of being the father of integrating the electronic musical world with traditional orchestral arrangements.

A turning point in Zimmer’s career came in 1988 when he was asked to score Rain Man for director Barry Levinson. The film went on to win the Oscar for Best Picture of the Year and earned Zimmer his first Academy Award Nomination for Best Original Score. The next year‚ Zimmer composed the score for another Best Picture Oscar recipient‚ Driving Miss Daisy‚ starring Jessica Tandy and Morgan Freeman.

Having already scored two Best Picture winners‚ in the early ’90s Zimmer cemented his position as a pre-eminent talent with the award-winning score for The Lion King. The soundtrack has sold over 15 million copies to date and earned him an Academy Award for Best Original Score‚ a Golden Globe‚ an American Music Award‚ a Tony and two Grammy Awards. In total‚ Zimmer’s work has been nominated for 7 Golden Globes‚ 7 Grammys and seven Oscars for “Rainman”‚ “Gladiator”‚ “The Lion King”‚ “As good As It Gets”‚ “The Preachers Wife”‚ “The Thin Red Line‚” “The Prince Of Egypt” and “The Last Samurai.”

With his career in full swing‚ Zimmer was anxious to replicate the mentoring experience he had benefited from under Stanley Myers’ guidance. With state-of-the-art technology and a supportive creative environment‚ Zimmer was able to offer film-scoring opportunities to young composers at his Santa Monica-based musical ’think tank.’ This approach helped launch the careers of such notable composers as Mark Mancina‚ John Powell‚ Harry Gregson-Williams‚ Nick Glennie-Smith and Klaus Badelt.

In 2000 Zimmer scored the music for Gladiator‚ for which he received an Oscar nomination‚ in addition to Golden Globe and Broadcast Film Critics Awards for his epic score. It sold more than three million copies worldwide and spawned a second album “Gladiator: More Music From The Motion Picture‚” released on the Universal Classics/Decca label. Zimmer’s other scores that year included Mission: Impossible 2‚ The Road To El Dorado and An Everlasting Piece‚ directed by Barry Levinson.

Some of his other impressive scores include Pearl Harbor‚ The Ring‚4 films directed by Ridley Scott; Matchstick Men‚ Hannibal‚ Black Hawk Down and Thelma & Louise‚ Penny Marshall’s Riding In Cars With Boys and A League Of Their Own‚ Quentin Tarantino’s True Romance‚ Tears Of The Sun‚ Ron Howard’s Backdraft‚ Days Of Thunder‚ Smilla’s Sense Of Snow and the animated Spirit: Stallion Of The Cimarron for which he also co-wrote four of the songs with Bryan Adams‚ including the Golden Globe nominated “Here I Am.”

At the 27th annual Flanders International Film Festival‚ Zimmer performed live for the first time in concert with a 100-piece orchestra and a 100-piece choir. Choosing selections from his impressive body of work‚ Zimmer performed newly orchestrated concert versions of Gladiator‚ Mission: Impossible 2‚ Rain Man‚ The Lion King‚ and The Thin Red Line. The concert was recorded by Decca and released as a concert album entitled "The Wings Of A Film: The Music Of Hans Zimmer."

In 2003‚ Zimmer completed his 100th film score for the film The Last Samurai‚ starring Tom Cruise‚ for which he received both a Golden Globe and a Broadcast Film Critics nomination. Over the past year‚ Zimmer has scored Nancy Meyers’ comedy Something’s Gotta Give‚ the animated Dreamworks film‚ A Shark’s Tale (featuring voices of Will Smith‚ Renee Zellweger‚ Robert De Niro‚ Jack Black and Martin Scorsese)‚ and most recently‚ Jim Brooks’ Spanglish starring Adam Sandler and Tea Leoni (for which he also received a Golden Globe nomination). His upcoming projects include Paramount’s Weatherman starring Nicolas Cage‚ Dreamworks’ Madagascar and highly anticipated Warner Bros. summer release‚ Batman Begins.

Zimmer’s additional honors and awards include the prestigious Lifetime Achievement Award in Film Composition from the National Board of Review‚ and the Frederick Loewe Award in 2003 at the Palm Springs International Film Festival. He has also received ASCAP’s Henry Mancini Award for Lifetime Achievement. Hans and his wife live in Los Angeles and he is the father of 4.


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