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I agree that Elfman's theme fits into Nolan's films as long as they are adapted to them. However, I think the way things have gone was not bad. TDK trilogy was marked as a project fruit of Nolan's unique vision. Although the themes do not respect the orchestral tradition are more memorable than those composed for more than half of the films of heroes of the last 25 years.Zimmer's entry into the genre can be interpreted as a breath of fresh air in a saturated marketplace at the time. But I agree that the lack of originality these days falls on Zimmer and his company and that the goal of it goes far beyond bringing talents to light.Now we need something new, again.@Hybrid any news on Season 2 soundtrack release?Of cause Balfe worked on it !!! His whole team are credited !!!!!!!Honestly, the purpose of RCP is essentially to take Zimmer's style and make it widespread for use...WB not using ANY RCP to score this seems to have been deliberate, as there's literally no reason it couldn't be done.^ hahaha :D<br><br>I think you're forgetting that Balfe also ghostwrote The Lord of the Rings?
They're starting to send screeners. Finger crossed for the FYC :DThe score reflects the situation of DC movies very well. If Zimmer, like Snyder, continued, the result may not please everyone. A lot of people were unhappy with Snyder's work in the genre, just as many fans of soundtrack were with Zimmer's contributions that never followed the path taken by all the other composers who came before him.<br><br>The two left (regardless of the reason that led them to do this).<br><br>When Zimmer left everyone knew that XL would not hold the pressure or that the result would not be satisfactory for most.<br><br>When Elfman and Whedon were announced we all knew that they were hired to go against everything DC has done before to try to reach the first film of the franchise to reach 1 billion. Even if they were to follow Marvel's script and drop their originality.<br><br>But the hiring of Elfman and Whedon shows that the studio was long lost. Snyder succumbed to BvS. The only salvation for the DCEU are the solo films like Wonder Woman, the next Batman, Aquaman ...and freedom. Freedom for the directors, composers... Warner has always had this advantage over Marvel.@Edmund <br>Given the chance I think Junkie probably could deliver a pretty fun score that stayed thematically consistent with the current universe. It all depends on what the studio/director wants out of the music. The biggest disappointment to me is that this was a huge missed opportunity to do a heroic take on Zimmer’s Superman theme, something we haven’t heard since MoS. Hell, even the trailers did that.... -_-rumor has it Lorne Balfe did this score<br><br>I guess if we do not get any credits then that proves it<br>======================================<br><br>Oh, absolutely! I'm sure we will soon find out that Balfe also scored Star Wars and Titanic. And Harry Potter. And Indiana Jones.Edmund, I somewhat agree - I've seen very little from Junkie to make me think this would have been a groundbreaking, wonderful score. However, maybe it's the Zimmer fan in me, but I would have loved to hear "stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place" in this score. So many scenes begged for just that. Compositionally it doesn't make for an interesting soundtrack or film score, I agree, but I would be willing to sacrifice that for thematic continuity.
I certainly understand the criticisms leveled at Elfman's JL score, but I'm not at all convinced Junkie would have been a better option. I've never been too convinced by him anyway (Mad Max was a situation where his sound happened to be a good fit, but even then I think a better composer could have made much more out of the same ingredients). And since anything worthwhile in the previous two (and yeah, I'm aware I like MoS and BvS waaaaaaaay less than the average reader of this site) ended up being by Hans anyway, I really doubt Junkie flying solo would have been up to much. My guess is he would have pulled out stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place without adding much new material on his own, which would have satisfied the DC fans more than what Elfman did, sure, but would have been a lot less interesting as a score album. I mean, say what you want about the questionable thematic decisions Elfman made, the two gigantic full-length action cues are pretty solid in and of themselves. I'll take that over Junkie letting the drums pound for eleven minutes straight, any day of the week.The studio is the music owner now.There you go. So we probably will never get to hear what Tom planned/did for this movie. I really believe that it would've been great compared to the generic score we got. <br>Only two tracks stood out to me and only one was an actual cue from the movie.Gabriel Yared leaked his Troy back in 2004 but I think he got in quite a lot of trouble for that. There's a reason he hasn't done too many high profile films since then, I think. A few rejecteds have slipped out over the years but it's pretty unheard of for the composer himself to be the one to leak it I think, that would be career suicide if they got caught. Usually they come out the same way complete scores do, some anonymous person working on the scoring team probably did it.and Zimmer criticized Elfman...back and forth, etc. So what? The movie is lame, the score is about as lame as Bat V Sup
@JBSO99 you're right. It's so big and widely spread.<br><br>And you're right about me forgetting those score. I just picked these three because Elfman critized Zimmer@Iamtommie  You forgot the theme by Elliot Goldenthal for Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, for not to mention the theme from the 60's TV show and all the themes for all the different animated motion pictures such as The Dark Knight Returns, Mask of the Phantasm, or the videogames like the Arkham series.<br><br>Batman's musical legacy is very big so him saying there is only one theme and his the one he created is really disrespectful to a big amount of composers.Yeah, that's what I thought you meant. And that's what Elfman should have done if he wanted to use the old themes.I think what Elfman said is not true.<br>Batman has different themes for different movies because every Batman is different.<br><br>Michael Keaton as Batman: Elfman's Theme<br>Christian Bale as Batman: Hans' Theme<br>Ben Affleck as Batman: Hans & Junkie's Theme.<br>Of course much more but the most important.<br><br>Each one if dies Batman's have a different story and a different universe. I think that for each universe a new theme is the best thing you can do. With a different theme you can relate more to this Batman than a previous one.<br><br>By the way, I think TDK, MoS & WW are 3 of the top 10 themes by Zimmer. I think what Elfman did the WW theme is an abomination. He removed the key instrument in the theme because he thought it was childisch.<br><br>I think the Justce League score is way worse than previous DCEU or Batman movies. I hope that Lorne of Junkie will do future DCUE movies instead of Elfman.<br><br>(Seeing Justice League thursday. I am curious if it is really that bad as everyine says)GITS was unreleased, JXL's JL score was completely rejected. The real qustion is how many rejected scores have leaked in the history of modern film scoring?
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Steffi reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-25 13:04:34
Yo, that's what's up truhtfully.

Becky reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-25 09:27:36
Back in school, I'm doing so much laernnig.

Denver reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-25 04:15:55
Haha, shouldn't you be charging for that kind of knwoldege?!

Robinson reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-25 02:21:20
Great article, thank you again for wirting.

Josie reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-24 15:12:56
No more s***. All posts of this qaultiy from now on

jXe reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-20 06:47:08
I dont care for the interface of the new HansZimmer Wesbite. I enjoyed the old look more. But thanks anyway.

dr.ehsan reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-10 08:44:38
hans is the best ........

Duck reply Replies: 1 || 2011-06-30 23:09:41
huh? what happened to the illusions page? and its comments? I was about to comment on it..


Anonymous2011-07-04 15:20:13
It appears that all the pages related to Two Steps From Hell are removed.

Feliz reply Replies: 2 || 2011-06-30 20:53:01
@Antas, Nicolas and possibly Damien
The 5-star rating system: It kind of gives a much more vague/inaccurate idea of a score's real rating than the old 10/10 system since it apparently can't display half stars or fractions of stars.

Is this a capability you're planing to add to the 5-star system? If not, well, I like the 5-star idea, but the 10/10 system was really more useful...


Damien, Moderator2011-06-30 21:55:55
I think displaying half star (or even quarter but perhaps less readable) could be done, but you will not be able to rate it with such a detail (you will be able only to give whole star note).


Feliz2011-06-30 22:42:00
Right, I think that would be fine. You could still get a better idea of the aggregate fan rating, or if the HZimmer.com rating really is a 4.5 instead of a 4, etc.

Steve reply Replies: 1 || 2011-06-25 05:57:57
Hallo!
Mich würde mal interessieren wie man als Deutscher auf so einen Soundtrack wie für Black Hawk Down kommt. Das ist schon extrem gut. Leave no man behind ist mein absoluter favourite. Immernoch. Aber die anderen gehen einen immer wieder in die Knochen weil sie passen so zu den Bildern. Hab mir erst grad wieder das Album angehört und hab mal schnell geschaut wie man sie erreichen kann^^.


smith2011-06-25 15:45:11
was meinst du denn mit als deutscher an sowas zu kommen?

sabrina reply Replies: 4 || 2011-06-19 17:35:32
Hello Mr. Zimmer, thank you so very much for your great, great soundtrack of 'pirates of the caribbean 4'! As soon ist was available at amazon I bought it and now it runs in 'infinite loop'.

But - alas - I do not understand the textes of the choir-parts, for example in 'mermaids' or 'on stranger tides'. My english ist not so good (as you can read ;-]). Is there a possibility to get the textes, can we read them anywhere in the internet?

Well, if there ist no chance - thank you despite for your great music! Sabrina


smith2011-06-20 11:50:24
ist? textes? lern mal englisch junge dame ;)


Sabrina2011-06-20 20:28:53
Wenn ich besser englisch könnte, würde ich wohl die Texte verstehen! (as soon it .. das war bloß ein Tippfehler)


Sabrina2011-06-20 20:53:37
Und texte - ja, ok, the lyrics.


smith2011-06-20 22:07:52
hehe kein ding, wollte dich doch nur ägern :)
und zu den texten glaube ich kaum, dass das wirklich irgendwelche worte sind die man versteht, sondern irgendwelche fiktionslyrics sind, wie in gladiator von lisa gerrard.

dirty_score reply Replies: 1 || 2011-06-16 01:50:55
u guys need to update JNW's page cause there's a new album out composed by him (The Green Lantern) :)


kaka2011-06-16 04:12:41
I hate to break this out but....

The Green Lantern OSt really sucks....Its like He's trying too hard to be like Zimmer. Which is exactly what Doyle did with Thor...Tried too hard. but Doyle's score was way more coherent than this one...

Rumor reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-15 16:20:35
That's really thinking out of the box. Tnhaks!

Ella reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-14 15:55:00
Thanks for sharing. What a pelasrue to read!

Jalen reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-14 10:24:45
BION I'm ipmrseesd! Cool post!

Reignbeau reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-14 07:00:57
At last! Someone who understands! Thkans for posting!

Addy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-14 03:39:21
And I touhhgt I was the sensible one. Thanks for setting me straight.

Joyelle reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-14 02:46:19
Kudos to you! I hadn't thohugt of that!

Brenley reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-14 01:08:21
Wow! That's a rlaley neat answer!

ivano reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-14 00:40:54
i love many kisses and melonarpo with krisma
ciao from italy
ivv611@gmail.com

Lara reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-13 19:43:15
Hey hans!!!!
You're music is great!!!! I can't imagine how so many great melodies can come into your mind.....I love especially the "pirates of the carribean" melodies!!!
They are sooooo wonderful!!!!Go on writing such amazing songs and melodies!!! Every movie with your melody gets much, much better!!!!
LOVE....your FAN!!

Ivan reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-08 15:59:01
Hans, thank you for your music!

Evenstar reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-31 18:39:56
Hans Zimmer does not read messages here... or am i wrong?

Mark Stothard reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-31 12:36:01
Hans and team just want to thank you for such a great website.

Hans, Thank you so much for being such a huge inspiration to me. You are the reason i began composing music.

No one knows how to get the best out of a movie with music like you do.
I'm constantly amazed how your draw such emotion from every scene. Even a simple scene can have such a huge effect just because of the way you score it.

I've watched every movie you have worked on, from 'success is the best revenge', 'the zero boys' (you even made that good to watch) to 'prince of Egypt', 'Gladiator', 'last samurai' and everything else you have done.

I look forward more to your movies coming out than i do my own Birthday.

Thanks again
Mark Stothard.
www.reverbnation.com/markstothard

Alex reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-29 23:37:52
Hans

Meine Duetsch is seer shlect, so in English.

As a life long enthusiast of sea chanties and old songs on nautical themes, I must say I am stunned by the beauty of "Jolly Sailor Bold" from the Pirates of the Caribbean soundtrack. When I saw the movie, I though to myself 'How have I missed this song among all the traditional songs of the sea I have heard?' I assumed it was of folk song a couple of centuries old. I was so surprised to find out it is a modern composition! I was further surprised to find out the composer isn't even a native speaker of English.

You crafted a work of art that sounds straight out of some waterfront of the early 19th century. Your choice of archaic turns of phrase, the slightly awkward fit of some of the words to the meter of the tune, and the imperfect transitions in a couple of verses give it the feel of a song that existed in several slightly different versions that periodically got recombined by different singers and passed on orally to new performers over many years.

I am curious to know how you came to be so familiar with traditional English songs of sailors and the sea. I am equally curious why the song is not included in the soundtrack CD from Pirates. I, for one, would buy it instantly if available. And given the number of places on the net that I found with people asking where to get the lyrics, recording of the song, and such, I think someone made a big mistake leaving it off the CD.

To give some sense of the level of interest, I found on YouTube about a dozen different videos of people who had found the lyrics and recorded the song themselves, a cappella, accompanied by classical harp, piano, you name it. The movie has been open less than a week. Clearly your work has touched a chord among music lovers. It is one form of popularity to find many pirated copies of a recorded song on the net - it is something very different to find so many individuals recording themselves singing it in so short a time.

This song is nothing short of a work of genius. Thank you for creating it.

miguel reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-29 14:51:11
Why ceded the copyright to a political campaign of the Socialist Party of Portugal? They are constantly excerpt from "the batle" at rallies and on television.

Joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-23 22:54:23
Hey guys great site! im on here at least once a day! Just had a question, is it true that Zimmer left Gorfaine-Schwartz agency to go to William Morris Endeavor? If so do you guys know why? Cheers!

Kurz Dominic reply Replies: 1 || 2011-05-22 20:16:25
Sehr geehrter Herr Zimmer

In der Hoffnung dass Sie dieses hier lesen, möchten wir Ihnen kurz unser Projekt vorstellen. Wir drehen einen Dokumentarfilm über Unwetter in der Schweiz und Europa. Dazu gehören auch Klimawandel und vieles mehr.

Unsere Frage an Sie wäre nun: Dürfen wir ein paar Teile aus einigen Soundtracks für unsere Filmmusik verwenden? Ihr Name wird im Film erwähnt. Ersterer ist der von Madagaskar.

Unsere Kontaktmail lautet: d.kurz@scvswitzerland.ch

Vielen dank!


Antas, Webmaster2011-05-23 09:38:35
in english please. Next time it will be removed

Sinead reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-20 22:44:09
OH, Email-Adresse vergessen. sinead.s@web.de ;) Danke schon im voraus

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