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Hallo,<br><br>Der 'Gladiator' ist schon langsam in die Jahre gekommen, die Musik ist aber nicht älter geworden. Genial.<br><br>Gruß  <br><br>Not bad score.<br><br>But I prefer the other oneIsn’t that ironic that DC is abandoning the continuity while Marvel is finally embracing it?<br><br>For any electronic fans out there, this score is definitely a must listen, there are some badass 80’s beats (with a dash of Tron legacy) in here.I'm so mad at DC right now I'd rather promote Marvel !! lol<br><br><br>Well jokes aside I add cause Andrew worked on it. And btw he posted another 5 min cue on his Soundcloud, dunno if it's unreleased, there'll better specialists of that score than me !Yeah, I happen to have seen the film and the score is not really "coherent", it's more like many different cues put together...
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. The Tracks released were kind of interesting, a kind of mix of soundsAnyone else think Hans knew about all the studio meddling during pre-production, the rewrites etc and walked away ? I mean, when I heard Elfman's score I thought it was generic and wouldn't fit the movie. Then I watched the movie and it fits well. The movie is just as bland as the music in the background.I don't have to ask, that movie was a failure that barely got distributed... No one had any interest in releasing this score...Hybrid, did you ever ask Hans why this score wasn't released?After watching the movie, I just have to say it was okay. It had some great moments but for me it had also many problems. And one of them was the music. For most of the part it wasn't even noticeable and when it was, it was like random background music with no really emotion or heart.<br><br>BvS and MoS movies can be criticized for some things but the score is not one of them. The movie gave the movie a strong and powerful side, as well as a heart and emotion into it. In this movie there were so many moments that needed different score. <br>***SPOILERS***<br>Superman's resurrection needed the MoS in full epic form. Wonder Woman at the bank at the beggining needed her theme with the electric cello in full power.<br>The Batman theme at the beginning when he is after that Parademon.<br>We should have a really memorable theme for the whole Justice League as well as for each individual member.<br>The scenes with Clark and Lois at the house in Kansas and when his mother sees him, this needed the piano theme from This Is Clark kent or something like that.<br>And that final moments with Superman opening his shirt showing the Superman logo and then flying to the sky, we needed something like "What Are You Going To Do When You're Not Saving The World?" or "Flight" and not that unmemorable music we got.<br><br>I really hope that the petition of the Extended Cut of the movie made by Zack with Junkie's music gets to be released someday, but for now, I'm disappointed.
Sounds fun!!<br>Thanks for the linkAny ideas on the Chronological Order of the Tracks?<br>I made a start here...<br><br><br>Logos<br>Batman On The Roof<br>Everybody Knows - Titles<br>Wonder Woman Rescue<br><br>...<br>Icky Thump<br>Aquaman In Atlantis<br>...<br>1m1a Krypton (from Man Of Steel)<br>Spark Of The Flash<br>Friends And Foes<br>...<br>Come Together - Credits<br>Anti-Hero Theme - CreditsNo, they are the full score cues- as presented in the film. The presentation of the final three tracks on the first disc are edited down for timing.* I posted this at filmtracks and wanted to share it here as well. <br><br>Danny Elfman's comments are very disrespectful and so disappointing for a creative person to hear, especially for composers. Nostalgia is a big problem with Hollywood and it's a simple Jedi mind trick. It's slightly different, but the same meal over and over with different seasoning. Imagine if James Horner didn't get to write the score he wanted for Spider-Man? Or Zimmer had to use Elfmans Batman theme for the DK triliolgy or BvS? Or Shirley Walkers incredible Batman theme for Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Or Giacchino just used the original star trek theme, or the original Star Wars themes for Rogue One and created nothing new at all? How boring and uninspiring for the composers not being able to challenge themselves to create new original music.<br><br>Whether you like these scores or not isn't important, the pursuit to create something new is what drives a creative person and gives us freedom in choosing something to enjoy and not enjoy. I love the original Batman theme by Elfman but I love it in the Burton films. I love Zimmer scores for both the DK trilogy and BvS. I am happy I can enjoy both types of scores and films but there are those who don't and that's a great thing because that means we are not all the same and that brings variety of opinion and taste which creates real conversation and most importantly gives an identity to a project.<br><br>It's easy to go back to original ideas, but I respect the creators who actually take the risk and want to try and do something new. If Danny Elfman stands by his words he should have just used the original Batman theme from the Tv Show and film or the original Spider-Man theme. Oops he didn't and we got a whole new Batman theme and Spider-man theme which most of us love. Thank god he didn't stick to using the original themes. The Batman reboots and superman and Spider-man reboots are completely different takes on the characters and that's why they deserve their own new themes and soundscapes. The only time I think an original theme from a film should be used in a new film with the same characters is if it's actually a sequel or prequel connected to that actual original film. Re-boots should always have new original music.<br><br>In the end the comments from Elfman are simply stupid and uninspiring and it's definitely a hidden ego coming through I never new he had which is a shame. I remember what Zimmer said about Danny Elfman's Batman theme being a bit jolly, but that's not attacking Elfman at all, it's how he felt and heard the music and felt that that style wouldn't fit in the new batman films ect.. I have always found the original Batman theme a bit on the jolly side too and I love it because it nails Burton's take on the character and world. That theme is for Keaton's Batman, no one else's.<br><br>One final point, if we keep wanting to just revisit the past and hear and see the same thing over and over and not be challenged with new ideas, what a damn uninspiring and boring world of creativity we will live in.<br><br>All the best to you all!<br><br>so...based on what junkie says here, Elfman is basically just rehashing old shit, as well as other people's old shit....Unless you want to say he's taking his Batman theme into a whole different direction that he didn't really have a desire to do before...until now....<br><br>In that case, "whatever" is all I have to say.
Nice stuff! I still can't believe this score hasn't gotten a release.That's unfortunate. With this score, I think it's obvious that the majority is Jablonsky, as it has a ton of elements from scores he's composed exclusively, but it would still be nice to know who did what, especially with the first and second films. Not sure why there's rarely any proper additional music credits for a lot of the RCP guys, especially considering Zimmer's credits are almost always complete. <br><br>However that cuesheet of the extended score is very interesting. Hopefully if it leaks, all those cues remain there.Damn that sounds different from Elfman's commentsThe funny thing is an interview he gave 1 months before being replaced... Saying pretty much the opposite of Elfman !<br><br>"It’s a massive undertaking. And I can’t say anything about Justice League specifically, but I’ll tell you this, and this was exactly the same experience that Hans and I had when we did work together on Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: It’s like when you see a movie like that, these iconic superhero movies, some of them have a 60 to 80 year legacy, multiple composers had a go at their themes, multiple filmmakers did their version of these characters—it’s very scary. You watch a movie and it’s like, “Holy shit, now I have to come up with something.” You’ve got sweaty hands and you’re nervous, and you talk about it over and over again—and I have exactly that relationship with Zack Snyder—and then Zack said, ”There’s only one thing you can do, and that is embrace this character as if it’s your own, keep it close to your musical soul, and just do whatever you feel is the right thing to do for this character.” That’s the only thing we can do. That’s what all these great directors did back in the day, and that’s what all these great composers did back in the day. It makes no sense for me to do extensive quoting of Hans’ score of the really amazing Batmans. It makes no sense for me to quote Superman from John Williams. Because all fantastic composers, they all did the same thing, they did something that was close to their heart, and I have to do exactly the same thing on this movie. You know this is Movie Number 4 that I’m doing with Zack, so you build a friendship and it’s built on trust and loyalty. You know how to challenge each other, you know what to expect on the other side, and it’s this really open, amazing dialogue about where to take this franchise."I can confirm that he had already worked on it quite a bit, because he said so in one of his Studio Time episodes.
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Becky reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-25 09:27:36
Back in school, I'm doing so much laernnig.

Denver reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-25 04:15:55
Haha, shouldn't you be charging for that kind of knwoldege?!

Robinson reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-25 02:21:20
Great article, thank you again for wirting.

Josie reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-24 15:12:56
No more s***. All posts of this qaultiy from now on

jXe reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-20 06:47:08
I dont care for the interface of the new HansZimmer Wesbite. I enjoyed the old look more. But thanks anyway.

dr.ehsan reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-10 08:44:38
hans is the best ........

Duck reply Replies: 1 || 2011-06-30 23:09:41
huh? what happened to the illusions page? and its comments? I was about to comment on it..


Anonymous2011-07-04 15:20:13
It appears that all the pages related to Two Steps From Hell are removed.

Feliz reply Replies: 2 || 2011-06-30 20:53:01
@Antas, Nicolas and possibly Damien
The 5-star rating system: It kind of gives a much more vague/inaccurate idea of a score's real rating than the old 10/10 system since it apparently can't display half stars or fractions of stars.

Is this a capability you're planing to add to the 5-star system? If not, well, I like the 5-star idea, but the 10/10 system was really more useful...


Damien, Moderator2011-06-30 21:55:55
I think displaying half star (or even quarter but perhaps less readable) could be done, but you will not be able to rate it with such a detail (you will be able only to give whole star note).


Feliz2011-06-30 22:42:00
Right, I think that would be fine. You could still get a better idea of the aggregate fan rating, or if the HZimmer.com rating really is a 4.5 instead of a 4, etc.

Steve reply Replies: 1 || 2011-06-25 05:57:57
Hallo!
Mich würde mal interessieren wie man als Deutscher auf so einen Soundtrack wie für Black Hawk Down kommt. Das ist schon extrem gut. Leave no man behind ist mein absoluter favourite. Immernoch. Aber die anderen gehen einen immer wieder in die Knochen weil sie passen so zu den Bildern. Hab mir erst grad wieder das Album angehört und hab mal schnell geschaut wie man sie erreichen kann^^.


smith2011-06-25 15:45:11
was meinst du denn mit als deutscher an sowas zu kommen?

sabrina reply Replies: 4 || 2011-06-19 17:35:32
Hello Mr. Zimmer, thank you so very much for your great, great soundtrack of 'pirates of the caribbean 4'! As soon ist was available at amazon I bought it and now it runs in 'infinite loop'.

But - alas - I do not understand the textes of the choir-parts, for example in 'mermaids' or 'on stranger tides'. My english ist not so good (as you can read ;-]). Is there a possibility to get the textes, can we read them anywhere in the internet?

Well, if there ist no chance - thank you despite for your great music! Sabrina


smith2011-06-20 11:50:24
ist? textes? lern mal englisch junge dame ;)


Sabrina2011-06-20 20:28:53
Wenn ich besser englisch könnte, würde ich wohl die Texte verstehen! (as soon it .. das war bloß ein Tippfehler)


Sabrina2011-06-20 20:53:37
Und texte - ja, ok, the lyrics.


smith2011-06-20 22:07:52
hehe kein ding, wollte dich doch nur ägern :)
und zu den texten glaube ich kaum, dass das wirklich irgendwelche worte sind die man versteht, sondern irgendwelche fiktionslyrics sind, wie in gladiator von lisa gerrard.

dirty_score reply Replies: 1 || 2011-06-16 01:50:55
u guys need to update JNW's page cause there's a new album out composed by him (The Green Lantern) :)


kaka2011-06-16 04:12:41
I hate to break this out but....

The Green Lantern OSt really sucks....Its like He's trying too hard to be like Zimmer. Which is exactly what Doyle did with Thor...Tried too hard. but Doyle's score was way more coherent than this one...

Rumor reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-15 16:20:35
That's really thinking out of the box. Tnhaks!

Ella reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-14 15:55:00
Thanks for sharing. What a pelasrue to read!

Jalen reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-14 10:24:45
BION I'm ipmrseesd! Cool post!

Reignbeau reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-14 07:00:57
At last! Someone who understands! Thkans for posting!

Addy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-14 03:39:21
And I touhhgt I was the sensible one. Thanks for setting me straight.

Joyelle reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-14 02:46:19
Kudos to you! I hadn't thohugt of that!

Brenley reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-14 01:08:21
Wow! That's a rlaley neat answer!

ivano reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-14 00:40:54
i love many kisses and melonarpo with krisma
ciao from italy
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Lara reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-13 19:43:15
Hey hans!!!!
You're music is great!!!! I can't imagine how so many great melodies can come into your mind.....I love especially the "pirates of the carribean" melodies!!!
They are sooooo wonderful!!!!Go on writing such amazing songs and melodies!!! Every movie with your melody gets much, much better!!!!
LOVE....your FAN!!

Ivan reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-08 15:59:01
Hans, thank you for your music!

Evenstar reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-31 18:39:56
Hans Zimmer does not read messages here... or am i wrong?

Mark Stothard reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-31 12:36:01
Hans and team just want to thank you for such a great website.

Hans, Thank you so much for being such a huge inspiration to me. You are the reason i began composing music.

No one knows how to get the best out of a movie with music like you do.
I'm constantly amazed how your draw such emotion from every scene. Even a simple scene can have such a huge effect just because of the way you score it.

I've watched every movie you have worked on, from 'success is the best revenge', 'the zero boys' (you even made that good to watch) to 'prince of Egypt', 'Gladiator', 'last samurai' and everything else you have done.

I look forward more to your movies coming out than i do my own Birthday.

Thanks again
Mark Stothard.
www.reverbnation.com/markstothard

Alex reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-29 23:37:52
Hans

Meine Duetsch is seer shlect, so in English.

As a life long enthusiast of sea chanties and old songs on nautical themes, I must say I am stunned by the beauty of "Jolly Sailor Bold" from the Pirates of the Caribbean soundtrack. When I saw the movie, I though to myself 'How have I missed this song among all the traditional songs of the sea I have heard?' I assumed it was of folk song a couple of centuries old. I was so surprised to find out it is a modern composition! I was further surprised to find out the composer isn't even a native speaker of English.

You crafted a work of art that sounds straight out of some waterfront of the early 19th century. Your choice of archaic turns of phrase, the slightly awkward fit of some of the words to the meter of the tune, and the imperfect transitions in a couple of verses give it the feel of a song that existed in several slightly different versions that periodically got recombined by different singers and passed on orally to new performers over many years.

I am curious to know how you came to be so familiar with traditional English songs of sailors and the sea. I am equally curious why the song is not included in the soundtrack CD from Pirates. I, for one, would buy it instantly if available. And given the number of places on the net that I found with people asking where to get the lyrics, recording of the song, and such, I think someone made a big mistake leaving it off the CD.

To give some sense of the level of interest, I found on YouTube about a dozen different videos of people who had found the lyrics and recorded the song themselves, a cappella, accompanied by classical harp, piano, you name it. The movie has been open less than a week. Clearly your work has touched a chord among music lovers. It is one form of popularity to find many pirated copies of a recorded song on the net - it is something very different to find so many individuals recording themselves singing it in so short a time.

This song is nothing short of a work of genius. Thank you for creating it.

miguel reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-29 14:51:11
Why ceded the copyright to a political campaign of the Socialist Party of Portugal? They are constantly excerpt from "the batle" at rallies and on television.

Joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-23 22:54:23
Hey guys great site! im on here at least once a day! Just had a question, is it true that Zimmer left Gorfaine-Schwartz agency to go to William Morris Endeavor? If so do you guys know why? Cheers!

Kurz Dominic reply Replies: 1 || 2011-05-22 20:16:25
Sehr geehrter Herr Zimmer

In der Hoffnung dass Sie dieses hier lesen, möchten wir Ihnen kurz unser Projekt vorstellen. Wir drehen einen Dokumentarfilm über Unwetter in der Schweiz und Europa. Dazu gehören auch Klimawandel und vieles mehr.

Unsere Frage an Sie wäre nun: Dürfen wir ein paar Teile aus einigen Soundtracks für unsere Filmmusik verwenden? Ihr Name wird im Film erwähnt. Ersterer ist der von Madagaskar.

Unsere Kontaktmail lautet: d.kurz@scvswitzerland.ch

Vielen dank!


Antas, Webmaster2011-05-23 09:38:35
in english please. Next time it will be removed

Sinead reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-20 22:44:09
OH, Email-Adresse vergessen. sinead.s@web.de ;) Danke schon im voraus

Sinead reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-20 22:42:51
Hallo Herr Zimmer :)
Ich schreibe Ihnen hier in der Hoffnung, dass sie das lesen. Ich habe seit zwei Jahren einen Freund, der eine große Leidenschaft für Filmmusik hat, seitdem er hm ca 13-14 Jahre alt ist. Es wäre schön, wenn es machbar wäre mir eine Autogrammkarte von Ihnen zu schicken. Er fiebert wirklich bei jeder Oscar-verleihung mit und Sie inspirieren Ihn sehr! Es wär schön, wenn Sie oder Ihr Team mir eine Email schicken könnten, damit ich Ihnen die Adresse schicken kann.
Ganz liebe Grüße
Sinead

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