HZF
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| posted on 31-8-2003 at 14:52 |
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Are you pro or against remakes and why?
I'm against them, like I've never been against some thing in my whole life. Let me be as clear with you as possible, the purpose of a remake is not to pay tribute to the original film itself. No, no, no, not at all. If you think that, it means you live in the wrong age. Most of the time, remakes are made for only one reason, which is money. When you have no talent and no original idea of your own, you remake films, that's how things work nowadays. This is the case of Dawn of the Dead by Zack Snyder, for instance, where the title serves as a pathetic and unbearable excuse, because you must realize that the content itself has absolutely nothing to do with the original movie.
However, there are times where that director who is in charge of this remake feels concerned about the original flick, because he's a fan of it, therefore he cares about it. Actually, it's even worse than that, that guy's a purist, he wants everything to be as authentic, as faithful as in the original film ; as a matter of fact, he would not even dare change a lousy thing but the fact is he has to, he has to add his own ideas and elements. Otherwise, tell me..., what's the point of remaking it? Because let me remind you that he doesn't remake it for money, he does it for himself and those who share the same passion for the original film as his. When I think of good remakes, Tom Savini's Night of the Living Dead and John Carpenter's The Thing come to my mind. Exactly, these are my conception of good remakes, and I believe that there should be more of them, of that caliber, because I personally see them as an homage to the die-hard fans like myself, you know, the ones who've been watching those films no matter what negative reviews or criticisms they were told about it, like a big "thank you" or something.
In the end, I must say I'm not that much against remakes, but I want them to be as faithful to the original story as it can be, if that's not too much trouble.
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Emissary
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| posted on 1-9-2003 at 14:26 |
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There is of course the case when a director decides to have himself another take on one of his own pictures; as Hitchock did with "The Man Who Knew Too Much"; and Hawks with "El Dorado", a barely-disguised remake of "Rio Bravo".
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Demetris
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I don't agree with you my friend. There are
a lot of great remake examples, with the recent
ones being the RING by Gore Vebrinsky and SOLARIS
by Stephen Soderbergh, and we are talking about
excellent work that's even better than the
original in many ways and aspects!
thanx,
Demetris Christodoulides
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HZF
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| posted on 2-9-2003 at 10:36 |
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quote:
Originally posted by Emissary
There is of course the case when a director decides to have himself another take on one of his own pictures; as Hitchock did with "The Man Who Knew Too Much"; and Hawks with "El Dorado", a barely-disguised remake of "Rio Bravo".
Yes, indeed. I know I'm going to be another pain in the a$$, but, once again, I doubt whether or not these films proved to be superior to the original ones in terms of quality... but that's just me, y'know.
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Originally posted by Demetris
I don't agree with you my friend. There are
a lot of great remake examples, with the recent ones being the RING by Gore Vebrinsky and SOLARIS by Stephen Soderbergh, and we are talking about
excellent work that's even better than the
original in many ways and aspects!
Hi Demetris,
To be honest with you, my friend, I have nothing against remakes as long as these show at least some respect to the original flick, I just hope I don't ask for much. However, tell me, is Dawn of the Dead 2004 respectful towards Romero's masterpiece? The answer's no, of course. I would rather say this remake is obviously a final, lazy and pitiful attempt at making loads of money out of a famous product, that simple. As for The Ring by Verbinsky, I'm sorry, my friend, but I didn't like it either. I preferred its Japanese version to this hoax. Plus, it was boring, I can't describe it, I almost felt asleep (fortunately, Hans' great music kept me awake, somehow). I haven't yet seen Soderbergh's Solaris, so I can't tell you more about it, sorry. Even though we don't agree with each other on many points, I respect your opinion, Demetris, and I'm looking forward to reading your response to mine. It's always a pleasure to discuss a matter with you, my friend. 
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HZF
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| posted on 4-10-2003 at 22:04 |
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I just found the Japanese poster of Zack Snyder's Dawn of the Dead, coming out in 2004...
... and it confirms what I've been thinking from the very start... This remake is totally f#cked !!!
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lily
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| posted on 17-12-2003 at 22:07 |
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I'm neutral. Logical: I'm swiss.
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Nicolas
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| posted on 4-2-2004 at 12:13 |
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The japanese version of THE RING is in my opinion better than the USA one, because hollywood wants always do more and and more beautiful ; useless sequences (in order to everybody could understand), Beautiful house and appartments. The power of the japenese one was that the story took place in standard home with small tv by exemple. At the end, the fact that it's a big screen in a big loft kill the frightening effect of the english version.
In fact, it's just a remake to make this film from the West without giving something new (except the music by Hans), and that's not enough in my opinion to receive the entire respect of the first version's fans... 
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kleinebre
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| posted on 7-3-2004 at 20:57 |
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Personally I'm not against remakes. For some classics, it is actually the first chance that many people have to see that particular story. In fact, I've seen The Ring only in the 'remake' (non Japanese) version, and think it was very good.
Wasn't there already an animated version of Lord of the Rings? Few people will contest that the trilogy of the past years is very well done.
Sometimes technology catches up with a story. King Kong comes to mind, by the same guy that did LOTR. The original was made long ago-- in black and white, with special effects that at the time were state-of-the-art, but to nowadays standards simply look pityful.
If the producer remains faithful to the story, this new version might actually be a big improvement over the original.
However some movies should remain untouched. I dont think anyone is waiting for a complete re-make of Star Wars or the current LOTR. No matter how brilliant the actors, or how great the new special effects, decades from now. Even if it is done very well, and some things improve from 'almost realistic' to 'completely realistic', it is going to be nearly impossible to please an old crowd with a new version, because either it will have the same feel, or lose the feel that made the original so great.
And then of course, there's classics that went through a remake long ago, such as 'the blob'. The remake was actually in color! But please, no more
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Bootstrap Phil
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| posted on 26-6-2006 at 15:33 |
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I'm not against remakes, but they should be selected different. Movie number one that should be remade is Catwoman, not something like Kong. The first King Kong is, was and shall remain a classic. The latest remake couldn't stand in it's shadow.
Why Catwoman, then? Cos you can make a really good Catwoman film. The one that exist now just isn't.
So remakes? Hell yeah. But only if you can IMPROVE on the original.
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cybil
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| posted on 30-11-2009 at 13:37 |
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It depends for me. Some remakes actually turn out really good. So if the director and the production team has good reputation then why not?
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Cybil
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ProfMuller
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| posted on 14-12-2010 at 04:10 |
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Even without remakes, there are a lot of 'storyline repeats', 'variations of the hit movie' in modern films these days.
Instead of remaking foreign films or old movies, I think people would be better off trying to watch more foreign films or old films instead and appreciate other styles of film making or story-telling.
Freshness is much appreciated in films because it is so uncommon.
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chris1999
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| posted on 2-1-2011 at 10:08 |
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the main problem is that it just reinforces the idea that hollywood isnt willing to take risks.. all they want to do is make things that are as safe as possible and they know that remakes are safe because theyre already a proven commodity.. the same goes for the 341543 batmans that theyve had.. i wish theyd take more chances..
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wolfenflautist
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| posted on 13-3-2011 at 22:53 |
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I don't see any problem with remakes, just as long as they don't regurgitate what the original had. If you want a remake to show the same thing as the original, then you might as well watch the original instead. It doesn't make sense to see the exact same thing years later that could otherwise be better in a different format.
Take Halloween, for example. The first remake showed much more background to Michael Myers' past and went more in depth with his childhood, as well as justifying his first killings (in the original, it was only his older sister). With the second remake, it was more original and had a different take on the story, as well as being more diverse with what went on other than Michael chasing his sister for the sole reason to kill her. In the first remake, he wanted to reunite with her as her brother, but she didn't see it that way.
I guess for some remakes, though, they go a little too far off...like A Nightmare on Elm Street (yes, I'm a horror fan). I'm more of a fan of the original because of the back story of Freddy Krueger and things like that. It seemed so like the original, but then went too far left field with how he became who he was.
Other than that, though...remakes aren't bad.
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